# Today I decided not to play **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 31, 2025, 1:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064 "2025-10-31T01:05:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/501 "2026-01-09T19:36:45Z")
> [@Tommy\_Fourfingers](#): > > Ganking and Griefing Ganker = wolf , Gankee = prey ---
**Author:** ![Tommy\_Fourfingers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tommy_fourfingers/32/389168_2.png) [@Tommy\_Fourfingers](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tommy_Fourfingers)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/502 "2026-01-09T20:14:19Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > Ganker = wolf , Gankee = prey And Griefing = Toxic, Griefee = Stop Omega subscription Log off play a different game. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/503 "2026-01-09T20:38:14Z")
Hello Kitty Island Adventure? ---
**Author:** ![Tommy\_Fourfingers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tommy_fourfingers/32/389168_2.png) [@Tommy\_Fourfingers](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tommy_Fourfingers)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/504 "2026-01-09T20:41:18Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > Hello Kitty Island Adventure? I was making a distinction between Ganking and Griefing there is a big difference. Ganking is fine, Griefing is Toxic and has no place in any game. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/505 "2026-01-09T22:42:33Z")
describe what the difference is then? ---
**Author:** ![Tommy\_Fourfingers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tommy_fourfingers/32/389168_2.png) [@Tommy\_Fourfingers](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tommy_Fourfingers)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 3:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/507 "2026-01-10T03:11:01Z")
> [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](#): > > describe what the difference is then? Ganking for high value cargo risk vs reward Griefing is killing people in starter ships and miners with no value just kill to ruin someone’s fun, low level players that can’t fight back and don’t understand the mechanics etc. Griefing has caused so many to stop playing EVE and the #1 complaint in the forums since launch. EVE would be over 300k active players easy not 20-30k that its at. the player base is aging out most are in 40’s 50’s and 60’s we need to attract new players to the game before it’s to late to do so. They need more than one system to learn the game. they just quit. 99% don’t even go to the forums they just quit and move on. People that don’t care about the game flame and troll forum posts like these, they dont if game dies they want easy kills for their insecurity’s Those that care about the future of the game understand something must be done ---
**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 3:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/508 "2026-01-10T03:16:12Z")
CCP defines what griefing is in Eve, not risk averse trolls. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 3:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/509 "2026-01-10T03:22:30Z")
This guy was wardeccing newbros before I came to the game. He’s got some nerve lecturing any of us about new players. He’s just an old worn out hasbeen (neverwas) who wants to AFK mine, pretending to care about noobs. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Tommy\_Fourfingers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tommy_fourfingers/32/389168_2.png) [@Tommy\_Fourfingers](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tommy_Fourfingers)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 3:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/510 "2026-01-10T03:27:27Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > This guy was wardeccing newbros before Icame to the game. He’s got some nerve lecturing any of us about new players. He’s just an old worn out hasbeen (neverwas) who wants to AFK mine, pretending to care about noobs. Lies and gaslighting again nothing constructive just toxicity. Im in nul sec have been for years, not in hi-sec And im not pretending im serious about growing and retaining our player base. You’re not you only care is being as toxic as possible in game and IRL ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 3:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/511 "2026-01-10T03:28:24Z")
Compared to you, I’m the new player. Everyone can see that. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 3:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/512 "2026-01-10T03:35:29Z")
> [@Tommy\_Fourfingers](#): > > Griefing is killing people in starter ships and miners with no value just kill to ruin someone’s fun, low level players that can’t fight back and don’t understand the mechanics etc. Says the hypocrite carebear who drops an entire fleet on a corvette. > **[Impairor | kzin thelone | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/59228008/)** > > kzin thelone (Lumen et Umbra) lost their Impairor in Amarr (Domain). Final Blow by Tea2theBag (Lonetrek Salvage and Scrap) flying in a Ashimmu. Total Value: 20,397.34 ISK again and again… > **[Velator | Aonair Volovan | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/59226888/)** > > Aonair Volovan (Exploration Frontier inc) lost their Velator in Amarr (Domain). Final Blow by Tommy Fourfingers (EVE Corporation 987654321-POP) flying in a Damnation. Total Value: 13,240.20 ISK Think of the new players he cries… > **[Venture | NIKA BURBERO | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/59116970/)** > > NIKA BURBERO (Federal Navy Academy) lost their Venture in Uedama (The Citadel). Final Blow by Tommy Fourfingers (EVE Corporation 987654321-POP) flying in a Damnation. Total Value: 429,384.76 ISK …only after his own mining alt dies… > **[Velator | Fravi Fucroc | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/58944308/)** > > Fravi Fucroc (Brave Newbies Inc.) lost their Velator in Uedama (The Citadel). Final Blow by Tommy Fourfingers (EVE Corporation 987654321-POP) flying in a Sleipnir. Total Value: 9,972.00 ISK It’s not for profit griefing, he says… > **[Ibis | Toledan Aurilen | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/58891178/)** > > Toledan Aurilen (Pandemic Horde Inc.) lost their Ibis in Uedama (The Citadel). Final Blow by Tommy Fourfingers (EVE Corporation 987654321-POP) flying in a Sleipnir. Total Value: 12,986.59 ISK cuz he knows what he does… > **[Ibis | 957 z3 | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/58779363/)** > > 957 z3 (Fractal Industries) lost their Ibis in Jita (The Forge). Final Blow by Tommy Fourfingers (EVE Corporation 987654321-POP) flying in a Loki. Total Value: 11,765.86 ISK **SHAME ON YOU!!!** ---
**Author:** ![Tommy\_Fourfingers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tommy_fourfingers/32/389168_2.png) [@Tommy\_Fourfingers](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tommy_Fourfingers)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 4:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/513 "2026-01-10T04:16:04Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Says the hypocrite carebear who drops an entire fleet on a corvette. Those are war dec targets assclown not a single one of those is a gank or a grief ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 4:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/514 "2026-01-10T04:17:27Z")
So it’s not griefing when you harass new players via a wardec? 🤔 It’s not griefing when you call new players an assclown? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 5:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/515 "2026-01-10T05:15:16Z")
> [@Tommy\_Fourfingers](#): > > Griefing is killing people in starter ships and miners with no value just kill to ruin someone’s fun Mining isn’t supposed to be safe in High, Low, Null, WH, Poch, or anything in-between. That’s been true since this game’s inception. Write-ups always included the need to protect mining ops. That’s not griefing. Griefing is the continued attack of the same person over and over to ruin his fun and make him quit the game. That’s actually against the Terms of Service. ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/504356_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/516 "2026-01-10T05:59:06Z")
Let’s not forget that for many Eve Online is a way of life. Like writing in your diary or reading a few more pages of your novel before turning off the light to then fall asleep while knowing that you made a little progress both in your Real Life and in New Eden . Sleep well Pilots o7 ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/517 "2026-01-10T09:54:40Z")
> [@Tommy\_Fourfingers](#): > > and miners with no **Mining Permit** ---
**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/518 "2026-01-10T12:34:27Z")
![Screenshot 2025-12-20 202134](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/3/8/e38878439e4ff66c486e7e282d38e9e1c7e8566b.png) Wow. So much of your b!tching and moaning seems to be based of the fact that you simply don’t understand the words you’re using. You don’t get to define what griefing and ganking are, hypocrite. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/519 "2026-01-10T13:12:42Z")
Gank Horde at your own risk, they Kick ass. However , they ar no match for Zaera. ![Screenshot 2025-11-12 204824](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/1/8/1188ed33456652f2f8f21bacdf639e44a2e13378.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/520 "2026-01-10T13:50:58Z")
> [@Tommy\_Fourfingers](#): > > Ganking for high value cargo risk vs reward > Griefing is killing people in starter ships and miners with no value just kill to ruin someone’s fun, low level players that can’t fight back and don’t understand the mechanics etc. > Griefing has caused so many to stop playing EVE and the #1 complaint in the forums since launch. > EVE would be over 300k active players easy not 20-30k that its at. > the player base is aging out most are in 40’s 50’s and 60’s we need to attract new players to the game before it’s to late to do so. > They need more than one system to learn the game. > they just quit. 99% don’t even go to the forums they just quit and move on. What a load of nonsense. How can someone who’s been in the game 10 years, and is thus living proof that people can and do survive being noobs, complain that people are not surviving being noobs ? Where is the logic in that ? And as Aiko points out, you were _yourself_ attacking newbros back in 2016….including one newbro whom killboard has no further records for after you attacked his Procurer. The newbro would appear to have left. The irony ! ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/521 "2026-01-10T14:05:05Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > Mining isn’t supposed to be safe in High, Low, Null, WH, Poch, or anything in-between. That’s been true since this game’s inception. Write-ups always included the need to protect mining ops. > > That’s not griefing. Though we’ve had our differences, I have to commend your own spirit of defiance. In one form or another it is what differentiates the survivors from the quitters. EVE is a state of mind…a dogged determination. And people either have it, or they don’t. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064.md?page=23) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064.md?page=25)