# Today I decided not to play **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 31, 2025, 1:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064 "2025-10-31T01:05:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Pingu\_Long](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pingu_long/32/478317_2.png) [@Pingu\_Long](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pingu_Long)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2025, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/142 "2025-11-05T15:14:03Z")
Hello again everyone, thank you for all the replies. I am somewhat suprised that quite many posters chose to misunderstand or misread my complaint. The AFK trip in the shuttle was about finding out whether it is possible to fly an empty ship, the specific and only role of which is cheap, quick and easy travel, through the only space that was meant to be “safe” by somewhat older design without being destroyed. It obviously is not possible anymore. The experiment was a success and I was actually watching at the screen the whole time, although I forgot about the implant drop event. But that is a small detail and shouldn’t detract from the main topic. What bothers me is what the result means for a casual player with a single account like myself. The only thing the current situation of high sec leads to is an increased tedium where it shouldn’t be, IMO. Let’s just look at what happens: “Doing it wrong”: - Flying in an empty ship AFK from A to B in high sec, while taking a p\*\*p. **Result** : _destroyed_. - Flying a ship with a couple of shinies through high sec on a 15 minute route. Staring at the warp tunnel while pressing a single button every 20 seconds during these 15 minutes, doing nothing else(there isn’t anything to do, really). **Result** : some tedium, _destroyed_. “Doing it right”: - Flying an empty ship _not AFK_ from A to B, while staring at the warp tunnel for 15 minutes, pressing a single button every 20 seconds. **Result** : 15 minutes pure tedium, maybe not destroyed. - Flying a ship partially loaded with shinies back and forth between A and B for 15 minutes each trip, 45 minutes to 1 hour and 15 minutes in total, doing absolutely nothing else than staring at the warp tunnel and pressing a single button (or 2 in case of Omega and cloak) every 20 seconds. After a 15 minutes stroll through Zkillboard to check the route. **Result** : 1 to 1,5 hours pure unneccessary tedium, probably not destroyed. So the only thing that changes is how much tedium one is willing to take to “do it right”. Nothing else - it’s still the same button press every 20 seconds. Dealing with the aftermath of destruction - as one of the posters correctly noticed - is in the line of “the only winning move is not to play”, because you aren’t getting back anything anyway and whoever you might kill one or two times won’t care much after logging in his third character on his 20th account. This is my issue with the current situation of high sec from a perspective of rather casual a player on a single account. I totally can imagine that multi-account users don’t care about anything of that sort at all - it’s just a single trip with multiple ships for them anytime, with scouts and webbers for the bigger transports and whatnot. People who are more invested in EVE than myself probably are used to all of this, I guess, and maybe think of such an 1 hour long trip as good gameplay - maybe even essential EVE experience - or whatever. To me it looks pretty strange after the last pause I took, certainly not motivating. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2025, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/143 "2025-11-05T15:15:19Z")
Maybe try using a better ship? I fly a Coercer and I never get ganked. ---
**Author:** ![Pingu\_Long](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pingu_long/32/478317_2.png) [@Pingu\_Long](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pingu_Long)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2025, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/144 "2025-11-05T15:29:29Z")
You know, I can sympathise with fearing a rework of a ship you came to like. Malediction rework is IMO pretty terrible, but other people are totally on board with it. Eve lost something with it. Feels bad. But then there is also a number of reworks of certain Gallente ships which turned out pretty amazing, like the Celestis(and Vexor and Thorax), which still looks like Celestis but so much more awesome, while keeping that distinct Gallente theme of organic shapes and some sort of a retro design intact. Sadly I don’t have a use for Celestis, but certainly for Imicus and Navy Imicus. And considering that the exploration ships are very often suggested to newbs as a good entry point into isk making early on, remodeling the Imicus line seems like a most sensical decision. ---
**Author:** ![Pingu\_Long](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pingu_long/32/478317_2.png) [@Pingu\_Long](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pingu_Long)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2025, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/145 "2025-11-05T15:33:48Z")
Can someone clarify here? I asked around in EvE Discord and got told that if the player in question is of lower sec status than -5 and blinks on the overview I can attack him even on an Alpha account. If this isn’t possible, then this is a case of “pay(for Omega) to win” then 🤨 ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2025, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/146 "2025-11-05T15:37:06Z")
I thought you knew by now that I will only do things that I want to do. As for skill, I have a ship able to do Abyssal 4s and I have another ship that can one-shot diamond rats ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2025, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/147 "2025-11-05T15:38:17Z")
Ok, so you are still doing the new player experience. I’m glad you are enjoying the tutorial. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2025, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/148 "2025-11-05T15:43:22Z")
Shaming won’t work. Null sec sucks. I’ve no desire to go there. There’s no point chasing the stick when the carrot is rotten. And you’re also doing the newbie content. You’re attacking the easiest ships in high sec. Ventures and hulks. I’m having trouble understanding this high horse you’re on. If you ever decide to take on a real challenge in High Sec, you know my address. After all, the more attacks I get, the better my defense will become. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2025, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/149 "2025-11-05T15:49:59Z")
Yes, Glen, I’m a new player. I’m learning to PvP, so I play with the other new players, in the new player zone. What are you doing, after all these years? ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2025, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/150 "2025-11-05T15:54:46Z")
What am I doing? Anything I want. This game itself is easy. And this account is only a year and a half old. 72m skill points. One account that does both mining and combat. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2025, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/151 "2025-11-05T15:56:02Z")
Well, it’s not that easy. You don’t even have a single killmail… Not one? I think maybe you find it too challenging, but you are ashamed to admit this. So you bluster about flying an Orca in HIghsec, but it’s all over-compensating for your small PvP experience. What do you think about that? ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2025, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/152 "2025-11-05T16:00:03Z")
The day you manage to destroy any of my ships is the day you can talk to me about facing challenges. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2025, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/153 "2025-11-05T16:01:17Z")
Calm down miner. Any carebear can fit a shield extender to an Orca and sit in 0.9 protected by CONCORD. You are right, that IS easy. That’s also not playing the game. I don’t know what you are doing tbh. Pretending I guess? Roleplaying as a capsuleer. 😎 ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2025, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/154 "2025-11-05T16:02:46Z")
Haha calm down, ganker. You’re just upset because I’ve grown beyond you. I thought you were the most feared one in High sec. I guess I win. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2025, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/155 "2025-11-05T16:04:02Z")
I guess you win buddy. You can undock an Orca and mine Veldspar in an 0.9. I’d say have fun, but you won’t… Maybe I won? ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2025, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/156 "2025-11-05T16:04:16Z")
[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/6/0/b60b674108400b1a820dab5ad56b2416714687fe.jpeg "Mötley Crüe - Don’t Go Away Mad (Just Go Away) (Official Music Video)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNCM8IjtQ-o) ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2025, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/157 "2025-11-05T16:04:42Z")
Is your isk/hr worth more or less than 5 cents? ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2025, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/158 "2025-11-05T16:05:10Z")
My best is 600m in one day moon mining. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2025, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/159 "2025-11-05T16:05:23Z")
Wow, so like $4 a day. Amazing. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2025, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/160 "2025-11-05T16:05:52Z")
Yep! It’s awesome! ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2025, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/today-i-decided-not-to-play/500064/161 "2025-11-05T16:07:18Z")
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