# Top reasons why a new player should consider not playing EVE Online

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/top-reasons-why-a-new-player-should-consider-not-playing-eve-online/45881>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [December 17, 2017, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/top-reasons-why-a-new-player-should-consider-not-playing-eve-online/45881 "2017-12-17T11:53:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/top-reasons-why-a-new-player-should-consider-not-playing-eve-online/45881/144 "2017-12-27T13:06:45Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> This thread is going way off-topic and in a bad way.

Ive never agreed with Salvos more strongly.

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**Author:** ![zluq\_zabaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zluq_zabaa/32/19011_2.png) [@zluq\_zabaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zluq_zabaa)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/top-reasons-why-a-new-player-should-consider-not-playing-eve-online/45881/145 "2017-12-27T13:09:18Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> This thread is going way off-topic and in a bad way.

I must agree, but it comes across a bit weird, after posting your own opinion on the matter.

> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> Ive cared for many terminal/dying patients.
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> Several have died as I was at their side, holding their hand, and nothing could prevent it.
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> I can say outright they dont give a damn what somebody says on an EVE forum.

Right, because no one apart from the 20 people frequenting these forums does. However this was never about any outsiders, only about the question of wether or not faking to be dying of anything in real life and making an in-game thing about it, is okay or not. I will say, no matter if people think this is funny or not, it crosses the same border, real life threats do. As for that, I think we should not go down this road.

P.S. And yes, I do find it extremely stupid that people use the thing between their ears for this kind of crap

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/top-reasons-why-a-new-player-should-consider-not-playing-eve-online/45881/146 "2017-12-27T13:37:29Z")

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Probably better just to ignore and not respond to such posts.

There is a concurrent thread by a guy that claims to be dying and offering isk to wreck his enemies.

People die everyday, all over the world, at an estimated rate of 1.8 persons per second.

Dont worry about them here in EVE.  
Leave it to healthcare professionals or their families/loved ones to deal with that.

You dont owe the dying anything, unless you are complicit in their death.

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Now, back to topic:

OP topic asks why NOT play EVE.  
That is asking proof of a negative.  
Better to ask why TO play EVE.

People generally choose to do something because they want to, not because they dont want to.

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**Author:** ![Keno\_Skir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/keno_skir/32/460582_2.png) [@Keno\_Skir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Keno_Skir)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/top-reasons-why-a-new-player-should-consider-not-playing-eve-online/45881/147 "2017-12-27T13:58:29Z")

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> [@zluq\_zabaa](#):
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> Sorry, still not offended. At least try harder if you want to be a punk. Oh and you starting to be so cute. Learned a lot of tools how to speak, from the ones who tell you your opinion, yeah? So, tell me, matey, how much of a victim of these censoring, millenial, safe-spacers are you exactly? How much did they hurt you? Are you super angry because you do not get what you think you deserve? Did that girl in high school not look at you? Did no one see the great thinker you really, really are? Does it make you sick to the bones, that people don’t think of you as an authority over their life? How much does all of that hurt you, little man?

Calm down. Words cannot hurt you.

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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Chicken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_chicken/32/45651_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Chicken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Chicken)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 2:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/top-reasons-why-a-new-player-should-consider-not-playing-eve-online/45881/148 "2017-12-27T14:42:31Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> OP topic asks why NOT play EVE.
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> That is asking proof of a negative.

Salvos demonstrating his poor grasp of basic logic. (again)

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/top-reasons-why-a-new-player-should-consider-not-playing-eve-online/45881/149 "2017-12-27T14:44:21Z")

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Did Galaxy\_Pig get banned? 😃

Whats next, Galaxy\_Llama?

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/516090_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/top-reasons-why-a-new-player-should-consider-not-playing-eve-online/45881/150 "2017-12-27T14:47:03Z")

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I wasn’t asking reasons, I wrote up a list I made for a person considering to play EVE Online among other online games.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/top-reasons-why-a-new-player-should-consider-not-playing-eve-online/45881/151 "2017-12-27T14:50:37Z")

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> [@Yiole\_Gionglao](#):
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> I wasn’t asking reasons, I wrote up a list I made for a person considering to play EVE Online among other online games.

Dont you think its more rational to write up a list of why you should to play EVE, rather than a list of why you shouldnt?

You: Hi, new guy!  
New Guy: Hi! Should I play EVE?  
You: Read this list of reasons why you shouldnt play EVE.  
New Guy: EVE looks like ■■■■ according to this.  
You: Thanks and goodbye!  
New Guy :…

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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Peruvian-Longhair\_Alpaca](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_peruvian-longhair_alpaca/32/46068_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Peruvian-Longhair\_Alpaca](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Peruvian-Longhair_Alpaca)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/top-reasons-why-a-new-player-should-consider-not-playing-eve-online/45881/152 "2017-12-27T14:50:49Z")

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> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> Whats next, Galaxy\_Llama?

Close, but wrong as usual, Salvos. 😄

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/top-reasons-why-a-new-player-should-consider-not-playing-eve-online/45881/153 "2017-12-27T14:51:36Z")

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> [@Galaxy\_Peruvian-Longhair\_Alpaca](#):
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> > [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#):
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> > Whats next, Galaxy\_Llama?
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> Close, but wrong again as usual, Salvos. 😄

Peruvian fking Longhair Alpaca.  
Touche.

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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Peruvian-Longhair\_Alpaca](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_peruvian-longhair_alpaca/32/46068_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Peruvian-Longhair\_Alpaca](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Peruvian-Longhair_Alpaca)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/top-reasons-why-a-new-player-should-consider-not-playing-eve-online/45881/154 "2017-12-27T14:55:53Z")

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> [@Yiole\_Gionglao](#):
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> I wasn’t asking reasons, I wrote up a list I made for a person considering to play EVE Online among other online games.

Give him a break, he struggles with things.

It’s perfectly logical to make up a list of reasons why something sucks too much to be worth a damn. I disagree, but it’s not illogical.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/top-reasons-why-a-new-player-should-consider-not-playing-eve-online/45881/155 "2017-12-27T15:00:34Z")

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When I’m considering to do something, I generally look for reasons to do it.

When I’m considering not to do something, I generally look for reasons not to do it.

Call me crazy, but I think that makes sense and represents how most people consider their options.

If you hand a new potential player a list of why not to play EVE, thats hardly conducive towards motivating his choice to play EVE, cos you left out all the good bits.

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/516090_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/top-reasons-why-a-new-player-should-consider-not-playing-eve-online/45881/156 "2017-12-27T15:53:38Z")

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He didn’t asked advice, he asked for “cons” of EVE compared to other games.

As in a friend asks you, “you own this car, are there any reasons why I should not buy it?”. You will not say “you should not buy a car because cars devaluate horribly as an investment”, rather you may warn him about poor mileage for his intended use or that it doesn’t haves some feature he demands. You’re not trash talking your car, just sharing reasons why your friend might want to consider other cars.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/top-reasons-why-a-new-player-should-consider-not-playing-eve-online/45881/157 "2017-12-27T16:01:21Z")

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> [@Yiole\_Gionglao](#):
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> You’re not trash talking your car, just sharing reasons why your friend might want to consider other cars.

Your also not telling them why they should buy it.

Dunno about you, but generally I like to know what the upsides are, before asking the downsides.

If Im interested in a product, I want foremost to know if it matches what benefit I want from it. Ofc, after, I will ask why/how it does not fill my desire.

Nobody rational peruses the market on what they DONT want. They look for what they do want, and afterwards, consider whether it has additio al negatives that dont fit their needs.

If you want a car, you search according to the characteristics you do want.  
If you want a red car, thats what you will search for, not all cars that arent red.

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**Author:** ![Lulu\_Lunette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lulu_lunette/32/133822_2.png) [@Lulu\_Lunette](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lulu_Lunette)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/top-reasons-why-a-new-player-should-consider-not-playing-eve-online/45881/158 "2017-12-27T16:21:51Z")

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I didn’t talk to anyone before playing Eve Online. I was lured by the promises of ‘real life science fiction’ and cool screenshots.

Honestly this game didn’t disappoint at all. It’s awesome. I think really it’s more about having a computer good enough to enjoy it and if you’ve got the precious free-time.

The worst thing you can do as a new player is read too deep into places like these forums.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/top-reasons-why-a-new-player-should-consider-not-playing-eve-online/45881/159 "2017-12-27T16:23:58Z")

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> [@Lulu\_Lunette](#):
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> I think really it’s more about having a computer good enough to enjoy it

This game can be run on a potato.

I get what you mean, but there are people still playing EVE on computers over 10yrs old, and old even then when they started.

EVE PC system requirements are famously low, and a great credit to CCP for maintaining them as such.

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/516090_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/top-reasons-why-a-new-player-should-consider-not-playing-eve-online/45881/160 "2017-12-27T16:26:59Z")

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LOL, you really make it difficult, don’t you? Maybe he knows why he wants a red car, but doesn’t knows whether there are downsides to owning a red car.

Also, why should I sell the virtues of EVE Online? I am her ex and we didn’t had a friendly break up! 🤷‍♀️

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/top-reasons-why-a-new-player-should-consider-not-playing-eve-online/45881/161 "2017-12-27T16:30:58Z")

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> [@Yiole\_Gionglao](#):
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> LOL, you really make it difficult, don’t you?

When you want something, do you search for what you want, or what you dont want?

OP is typical of millennial passive-aggressive, self-ironic thinking.  
Instead of focusing on what they want, they focus on what they dont want.

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/516090_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/top-reasons-why-a-new-player-should-consider-not-playing-eve-online/45881/162 "2017-12-27T16:42:37Z")

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Reality is more complex than your attempts to shoehorn it in your established cathegories. You don’t know what people are you judging based on a piece of information which obviously conflicts you.

Sorry if you don’t understand why should two persons share negative information on a topic, but it happens. If you want to know the good and the bad, you don’t necessarily ask the same person. You may ask a fanboy about the good and a bittervet about the bad, or anyone inbetween those extremes. Or might ask several people or look for information yourself and ask for what you didn’t find.

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2017, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/top-reasons-why-a-new-player-should-consider-not-playing-eve-online/45881/163 "2017-12-27T16:56:02Z")

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Ok, man.

Keep explaining to potential new players how crap EVE is.  
Your choice.  
Apparently telling them how good it is, is no longer a priority.

Im 36.  
Maybe I’m too old to get it why you would do that, in your interest, or theirs.

Maybe you guys nowadays like to hear how much something sucks, rather than how much it rocks.

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