# TOTALITY REALIZED :: Triglavian Invasion Goal Attained with 27 Final Liminalities

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/totality-realized-triglavian-invasion-goal-attained-with-27-final-liminalities/270254>\
**Category:** EVE Lore Discussion\
**Created:** [September 28, 2020, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/totality-realized-triglavian-invasion-goal-attained-with-27-final-liminalities/270254 "2020-09-28T19:31:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Uriel\_Paradisi\_Anteovnuecci](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_paradisi_anteovnuecci/32/388691_2.png) [@Uriel\_Paradisi\_Anteovnuecci](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_Paradisi_Anteovnuecci)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/totality-realized-triglavian-invasion-goal-attained-with-27-final-liminalities/270254/1 "2020-09-28T19:31:23Z")

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[https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/fiction/eveonline/Triglavian/glory1000pochven.mp4](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/fiction/eveonline/Triglavian/glory1000pochven.mp4)

> **GLORIFICATION PATTERN IN TOTALITY: REALIZED**  
> **TRIGLAV EXALTED DAZH ELEMENTS: FINAL LIMINALITY**  
> **LIMINAL PROVING: THRESHOLD ATTAINED**  
> **ANCIENT DOMAINS STABILIZATION: GOLD CONSENT**  
> **DOMAIN OF POCHVEN CONDUIT WEAVING: GOLD CONSENT**  
> **KRAI PERUN LIMINALITY: FIELDS PROCESSING**  
> **KRAI SVAROG LIMINALITY: FIELDS PROCESSING**  
> **KRAI VELES LIMINALITY: FIELDS PROCESSING**  
> **CHISLOV ZVEMOKORG NOEMATA: CONSOLIDATION PHASE**  
> **FLOW OF VYRAJ DIRECTION: BUJAN THROUGH POCHVEN**  
> **FOREST OF GLORIFICATION HUNTING: GOLD CONSENT**  
> **COMMUNION WITH SOBORNOST KYBERNAUTS: GOLD CONSENT**

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**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/totality-realized-triglavian-invasion-goal-attained-with-27-final-liminalities/270254/2 "2020-09-28T19:34:42Z")

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Sorry edencom but zorya is here to stay

Unlike your master kasimir valkarin, who i think she is going to be…remove

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/totality-realized-triglavian-invasion-goal-attained-with-27-final-liminalities/270254/3 "2020-09-28T19:36:29Z")

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So when do we find out what any of this means?

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**Author:** ![Broadhead](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/broadhead/32/342181_2.png) [@Broadhead](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Broadhead)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/totality-realized-triglavian-invasion-goal-attained-with-27-final-liminalities/270254/4 "2020-09-28T19:54:44Z")

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Does that mean we could have let them have the first 27 systems, and had this over and done with a long time ago?

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**Author:** ![Lauralite\_Anne\_Brezia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lauralite_anne_brezia/32/380065_2.png) [@Lauralite\_Anne\_Brezia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lauralite_Anne_Brezia)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/totality-realized-triglavian-invasion-goal-attained-with-27-final-liminalities/270254/6 "2020-09-28T20:03:28Z")

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I would like to point out this is thee Lore Discussion section and not the Intergalactic Summit section, so in-character quibbling should be left by the wayside as this is an out of character section.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/totality-realized-triglavian-invasion-goal-attained-with-27-final-liminalities/270254/7 "2020-09-28T20:04:22Z")

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Thank goodness - the IGS is out of my league.

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**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/totality-realized-triglavian-invasion-goal-attained-with-27-final-liminalities/270254/9 "2020-09-28T20:08:31Z")

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🔴 Considering that Valkanir saved 53 systems totally and 82 systems partially against Trigs, I doubt that she is going anywhere. And that against all odds, in particular, total lack of consequences for trig supporters, while Edencom was under enormous pressure and ever increasing amount of consequences stacking against them.

In contrast, she now has a strong argument for further progress in unifying the cluster more. More unified response to trigs, more concerted efforts to fight threats, less infighting in her force.

Plus, is it just me or are Trigs running out of steam? They couldn’t even afford a voice for such a “momentous” occasion. Before they bombarded us with voiced message spam for even the most minor trivialities but for the achievement of their first big invasion goal, they just scroll text like galnet scrolls mineral prices over the screen.

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**Author:** ![Elein\_Caldriea](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elein_caldriea/32/221237_2.png) [@Elein\_Caldriea](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elein_Caldriea)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/totality-realized-triglavian-invasion-goal-attained-with-27-final-liminalities/270254/10 "2020-09-28T20:09:31Z")

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over 15 of those forts were never under invasion, only about 30 are lims.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/totality-realized-triglavian-invasion-goal-attained-with-27-final-liminalities/270254/11 "2020-09-28T20:09:37Z")

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Who is Valkanir?

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**Author:** ![Elein\_Caldriea](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elein_caldriea/32/221237_2.png) [@Elein\_Caldriea](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elein_Caldriea)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/totality-realized-triglavian-invasion-goal-attained-with-27-final-liminalities/270254/12 "2020-09-28T20:10:02Z")

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Oh and don’t forget how stupidly strong the amarr navy was before they had to downgrade to older ones.

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**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/totality-realized-triglavian-invasion-goal-attained-with-27-final-liminalities/270254/13 "2020-09-28T20:11:12Z")

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🔴 Oh, don’t forget how ridiculously weak Caldari Navy still is, while Trigs are still completely OP. Never forget.

> [@Elein\_Caldriea](#):
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> over 15 of those forts were never under invasion, only about 30 are lims.

Preliminarily saved to prevent more misfortune while Edencom had the opportunity to do so. Sounds like a good deal for Valkanir, too. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Hexelen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hexelen/32/482045_2.png) [@Hexelen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hexelen)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/totality-realized-triglavian-invasion-goal-attained-with-27-final-liminalities/270254/14 "2020-09-28T20:12:04Z")

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> **[Kasiha Valkanir - Real Life Science Fiction](https://fiction.eveonline.com/new-eden/lore/kasiha-valkanir)**
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> Provost Marshal Kasiha Valkanir is the head of AEGIS, CONCORD's Authority for Emergency Interdiction and Security. AEGIS was setup in YC120, in response to increasing losses of interstellar shipping thought to be caused by one or several emergent...

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**Author:** ![Nep-Neps](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nep-neps/32/466874_2.png) [@Nep-Neps](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nep-Neps)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/totality-realized-triglavian-invasion-goal-attained-with-27-final-liminalities/270254/15 "2020-09-28T20:13:46Z")

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You know what you call someone who fights a defensive war and ends up losing a bunch of territory?

A loser, that’s what.

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**Author:** ![Elein\_Caldriea](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elein_caldriea/32/221237_2.png) [@Elein\_Caldriea](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elein_Caldriea)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/totality-realized-triglavian-invasion-goal-attained-with-27-final-liminalities/270254/16 "2020-09-28T20:15:14Z")

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Pretty much Edencom had all the advantages, manpower, resources, hell they had established ways to move away the cluster. Trigs had to use unstable conduits and they still took 27 systems.

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**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/totality-realized-triglavian-invasion-goal-attained-with-27-final-liminalities/270254/17 "2020-09-28T20:17:19Z")

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🔴 Oh my god, 27 systems. How will the empires recover from that?

Plus, I wonder if they had lost the systems if they had actually enacted proper consequences for supporting genocidal invaders. Time will tell if the Big 4 will learn from that and now finally bar anyone with positive trig standing from their stations, services and amenities.

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**Author:** ![Elein\_Caldriea](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elein_caldriea/32/221237_2.png) [@Elein\_Caldriea](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elein_Caldriea)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/totality-realized-triglavian-invasion-goal-attained-with-27-final-liminalities/270254/18 "2020-09-28T20:19:11Z")

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The big 4 won’t do crap because they fear us, they don’t want another Sansha running around destroying empire space.

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**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/totality-realized-triglavian-invasion-goal-attained-with-27-final-liminalities/270254/19 "2020-09-28T20:20:27Z")

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🔴 If they fear you, shutting you out of their stations and services is the best thing to do as you could otherwise implant sleeper cells and whatnot else in the stations to sabotage them. And that’s just a start. They should also terminate any clone contract. Trigs can have their medical clones in World Arks or whatever Trigs use. 🙂

Do actual Trigs even have clones? 🤔

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**Author:** ![Lauralite\_Anne\_Brezia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lauralite_anne_brezia/32/380065_2.png) [@Lauralite\_Anne\_Brezia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lauralite_Anne_Brezia)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/totality-realized-triglavian-invasion-goal-attained-with-27-final-liminalities/270254/20 "2020-09-28T20:21:44Z")

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again, out of character forum section. and the empires do out do us in pretty much every manner strength wise in the narrative, and each have internal cadres of capsuleers in their navies that _at minimum_ equal the number of player capsuleers. the trigvasion stuff was more toward us tipping the balance of the fight than us actually deciding the ultimate outcomes.

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**Author:** ![Elein\_Caldriea](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elein_caldriea/32/221237_2.png) [@Elein\_Caldriea](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elein_Caldriea)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/totality-realized-triglavian-invasion-goal-attained-with-27-final-liminalities/270254/21 "2020-09-28T20:25:37Z")

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You’re logic is beyond stupid, its absurd. You do realise that capsuleers are pretty much gods right? Any null capsuleer can pretty much constitute a major threat to all the empires. You’re trying to pretend as through edencom has won, which is laughable at best and pathetic at worst.

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**Author:** ![Lauralite\_Anne\_Brezia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lauralite_anne_brezia/32/380065_2.png) [@Lauralite\_Anne\_Brezia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lauralite_Anne_Brezia)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/totality-realized-triglavian-invasion-goal-attained-with-27-final-liminalities/270254/22 "2020-09-28T20:26:47Z")

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they actually don’t, per the lore. While there’s a lot of the flashy trailers with capsuleers having ‘limitless power,’ while we can be a threat, we are not an _existential_ threat in any capacity.

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