# Training time issues we are 2019 now, CCP is back in 2004 still **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 23, 2019, 4:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/training-time-issues-we-are-2019-now-ccp-is-back-in-2004-still/135331 "2019-01-23T04:32:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/training-time-issues-we-are-2019-now-ccp-is-back-in-2004-still/135331/61 "2019-01-25T09:39:25Z")
It is already in the game: make ISK =\> buy SP injectors. ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/training-time-issues-we-are-2019-now-ccp-is-back-in-2004-still/135331/62 "2019-01-25T11:17:07Z")
> [@Old\_Pervert](#): > > You make it sound as though we live in a world where today people don’t get killed for the ideals of another. > > Literally the only thing that is different is the sophistication of the weapons used, and the experience to know that preserving a workforce is generally preferable to razing it to the ground. > > Why should the science fiction future universe be any different? Do pixel lives matter too, 21,000 years later? If noone starts this future with the little things it will never happen you know? ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/training-time-issues-we-are-2019-now-ccp-is-back-in-2004-still/135331/63 "2019-01-25T11:43:17Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > If noone starts this future with the little things it will never happen you know? Saint Balos, what we would do without you? ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/training-time-issues-we-are-2019-now-ccp-is-back-in-2004-still/135331/64 "2019-01-25T11:48:07Z")
[Get loaded and have a good time like the song says.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wf73xqZvk6k) ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/training-time-issues-we-are-2019-now-ccp-is-back-in-2004-still/135331/65 "2019-01-25T15:06:24Z")
> [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](#): > > Saint Balos, what we would do without you? Die probably…🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/training-time-issues-we-are-2019-now-ccp-is-back-in-2004-still/135331/66 "2019-01-25T15:58:27Z")
I saw egomaniacs in my life, but you are on another level. 300000 years of human existence at least, without Balos’s ego around, we can survive without you. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/training-time-issues-we-are-2019-now-ccp-is-back-in-2004-still/135331/67 "2019-01-25T16:27:53Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/f/c/fcf58fe0f14ad9e22e38ea50558f1a5b34ea04bc.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/training-time-issues-we-are-2019-now-ccp-is-back-in-2004-still/135331/68 "2019-01-25T16:30:03Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > Frigates and missiles should be intercepted by a battleships automatic short range defense… They can be you have to FIT FOR THAT. Fit some fast turrets, missiles or drones. Oh you don’t want to fit small weapons on a big ship? Make friends. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/training-time-issues-we-are-2019-now-ccp-is-back-in-2004-still/135331/69 "2019-01-25T16:35:49Z")
You missed this little gem, where he totally ignores that aircraft carriers never travel without an escort that can engage smaller craft. > [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > Even todays big ships like aircraft carriers have automated defense systems… ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/training-time-issues-we-are-2019-now-ccp-is-back-in-2004-still/135331/70 "2019-01-25T16:39:52Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > You missed this little gem, where he totally ignores that aircraft carriers never travel without an escort that can engage smaller craft. In the end most of these threads are about making things work solo. There was the thread last week with the carrier that was going to combine 3 roles, plus the classic “make salvage drones have combat abilities”. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/training-time-issues-we-are-2019-now-ccp-is-back-in-2004-still/135331/71 "2019-01-25T16:44:04Z")
> [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#): > > make salvage drones have combat abilities /hides his trusty rusty stuff ---
**Author:** ![xxxTRUSTxxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xxxtrustxxx/32/285949_2.png) [@xxxTRUSTxxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xxxTRUSTxxx)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/training-time-issues-we-are-2019-now-ccp-is-back-in-2004-still/135331/72 "2019-01-25T17:46:12Z")
> [@Galatea\_Centennial](#): > > A lot of the time I don’t play I just log in check the training time que and log out again waiting for training. Why should anyone take anything you have to say serious, you admit you don’t play the game but feel you know enough to call for changes. you blame the game and the only fix in your view is to change the game to suit you. because if you had more SP you’d actually log in and do stuff, nah not buying it, i’ve dealt with lots of guys like yourself over the years, you’d get to battleship and then it’s capitals, so the gaps between logging in and taking part only increases and eventually you’re never seen again and during the time you where part of a corp you did SFA but log in and complain that you had x amount of days left to train for whatever and log off. Now the player that actually falls inlove with EVE, you can’t get the fecker to log off and there is no oh me SP are too low excuses, sure they look forward to being in better ships, but if never stops them from logging in and playing the game. > [@Galatea\_Centennial](#): > > I pick it up no issue,(without joining a corp) i’ve nothing against going solo, but you must be bored stupid, no comms to chatter with mates, no fast track learning because ya mates and all talking about stuff in game, no intel flowing your way, no tips on a shift in the market, just you all alone in an mmorpg wondering why you are bored and don’t log in 👀 get yourself into a corp and if i’m wrong and you are in one, get out of it and join a good one.🦴 ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Alharazaad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/omar_alharazaad/32/253881_2.png) [@Omar\_Alharazaad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Omar_Alharazaad)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 4:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/training-time-issues-we-are-2019-now-ccp-is-back-in-2004-still/135331/75 "2019-01-26T04:44:58Z")
I hear that webs and neuts can be frighteningly effective for this purpose. ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/training-time-issues-we-are-2019-now-ccp-is-back-in-2004-still/135331/76 "2019-01-26T11:18:38Z")
All you spit out recently just approves YOUR unability to adjust to changes… “This will not work” FOR YOU and only FOR YOU…Those of us that live in 2019 and not 2003 will be able to get used to it… ---
**Author:** ![Rosha\_Freya\_Amaght](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rosha_freya_amaght/32/103319_2.png) [@Rosha\_Freya\_Amaght](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rosha_Freya_Amaght)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/training-time-issues-we-are-2019-now-ccp-is-back-in-2004-still/135331/77 "2019-01-26T13:11:15Z")
> [@Old\_Pervert](#): > > You make it sound as though we live in a world where today people don’t get killed for the ideals of another. > > Literally the only thing that is different is the sophistication of the weapons used, and the experience to know that preserving a workforce is generally preferable to razing it to the ground. > > Why should the science fiction future universe be any different? Do pixel lives matter too, 21,000 years later? RIGHT! Deep inside, the humans have remained baboons… and i fear that will never change. The only difference is the technic. Sitting in a safe room you press a button… and far away millions can die… Some call it civilization 🕶😶 ---
**Author:** ![Killer\_Gandry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/killer_gandry/32/110744_2.png) [@Killer\_Gandry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Killer_Gandry)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/training-time-issues-we-are-2019-now-ccp-is-back-in-2004-still/135331/95 "2019-01-26T13:44:09Z")
I still have the sticky on how to learn the learning skills he most effective. ---
**Author:** ![Agondray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/agondray/32/414989_2.png) [@Agondray](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Agondray)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 6:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/training-time-issues-we-are-2019-now-ccp-is-back-in-2004-still/135331/105 "2019-01-27T06:35:52Z")
> [@xxxTRUSTxxx](#): > > Now the player that actually falls inlove with EVE, you can’t get the fecker to log off and there is no oh me SP are too low excuses, sure they look forward to being in better ships, but if never stops them from logging in and playing the game. amen, started in 2005 and this is the only game that keeps my attention. im sitting at 243m sp now without using skill injectors ---
**Author:** ![Myrradah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/myrradah/32/248964_2.png) [@Myrradah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Myrradah)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/training-time-issues-we-are-2019-now-ccp-is-back-in-2004-still/135331/106 "2019-01-27T07:36:30Z")
Couple things for the immediate satisfaction peeps: 1. Its a controlled level up. Sorry you cannot gimmick the game to do it faster. 2. You are better off learning the game and ships hulls in the smaller ships and still be very effective. Then once training is done you wont look all that dumb when you die. 3. After a certain point you are on par with a person whom has been playing since Day one. thats about 60 mil SP. After that, its all other non pvp or cap related stuff. 4. if you want to get into caps so much, then buy the skills injectos and do it. You should likely be used to it with this type of attitude. ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/training-time-issues-we-are-2019-now-ccp-is-back-in-2004-still/135331/107 "2019-01-27T10:25:51Z")
> [@Agondray](#): > > amen, started in 2005 and this is the only game that keeps my attention. im sitting at 243m sp now without using skill injectors And this is no a valid statement in 2019… It simply is outdated even if you wish it wasn’t. There is NOTHING you can do about it. Simply draw your attention somewhere else if you do not like the reality anymore… People change,games change,opinions change and games that have to survive on the market have to react to those changes… Denying this only shows that the YOU inside your bubble have lost your connection to the reality and this is sad. You simply cannot avoid the change,it will be forced upon you by those in charge and all you can do is state that you have been “betrayed” by them and ragequit… Those changes WILL happen…they HAVE to…and after the firework is over EVE will go back to daily buisness and you will not be missed… Things like this happen… Get over it… ---
**Author:** ![Erik\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erik_aihaken/32/92554_2.png) [@Erik\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erik_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/training-time-issues-we-are-2019-now-ccp-is-back-in-2004-still/135331/112 "2019-01-27T11:59:32Z")
We’ve all been there though. I mean as a community it’s easy to throw the hammer on him and his ridiculous notions of reality, but I know where he’s coming from too. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/training-time-issues-we-are-2019-now-ccp-is-back-in-2004-still/135331.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/training-time-issues-we-are-2019-now-ccp-is-back-in-2004-still/135331.md?page=5)