# Transhumanism **URL:** \ **Category:** Out Of Pod Experience\ **Created:** [September 28, 2021, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/transhumanism/330084 "2021-09-28T06:01:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Tem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_tem/32/432971_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Tem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Tem)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/transhumanism/330084/1 "2021-09-28T06:01:47Z")
Is it appropriate to discuss real world transhumanism in a forum of a game that promotes fictional transhumanism? Recent experience with “community” suggests that it is not. If that is your opinion; why is that the case? [https://infogalactic.com/info/Transhumanism](https://infogalactic.com/info/Transhumanism) I suspect that Sarah Westall’s videos on the subject that is verboten, rather than the generalised topic being taboo. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 6:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/transhumanism/330084/2 "2021-09-28T06:20:09Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/9/c/e9c70bc512e25991453fc17fff2886ced93d562e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/transhumanism/330084/3 "2021-09-28T06:25:05Z")
> [@Snowflake\_Tem](#): > > Is it appropriate to discuss real world transhumanism in a forum of a game that promotes fictional transhumanism? Sure, however it’s probably more an Out of Pod topic, than a GD topic. EVE has had transhumanism since it started, so it seems like a relevant thing to discuss. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/transhumanism/330084/4 "2021-09-28T06:37:04Z")
Prowl was my favourite. He’s the police car one. ---
**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Tem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_tem/32/432971_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Tem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Tem)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 6:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/transhumanism/330084/5 "2021-09-28T06:42:18Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > Sure, however it’s probably more an Out of Pod topic, than a GD topic. It’s a fundamental precept of the game. If I were talking cliff high woo I’d go OOP. ---
**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Tem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_tem/32/432971_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Tem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Tem)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/transhumanism/330084/6 "2021-09-28T06:44:15Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > He’s the police car one. gosh, collared out of the gate. makes me want to Starscream. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/transhumanism/330084/7 "2021-09-28T06:45:32Z")
> [@Snowflake\_Tem](#): > > It’s a fundamental precept of the game. Sure, but isn’t the discussion, based on the OP, supposed to be: > [@Snowflake\_Tem](#): > > to discuss real world transhumanism That doesn’t really seem an EVE topic as such. But luckily I’m not the forum police, so my opinion doesn’t really matter that much. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/transhumanism/330084/8 "2021-09-28T06:52:01Z")
Sorry couldnt help it. No idea what this thread is actually about ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/transhumanism/330084/9 "2021-09-28T06:57:25Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > No idea what this thread is actually about Sticking implants in your head for realz (among other things that take us from current human to future human). I prefer to think we’ll be uploading our consciousness into the internet by 2050 (2048 is the current prediction, which is crazy to think about). Imagine the flame wars if we can all talk at the speed of light. ---
**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Tem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_tem/32/432971_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Tem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Tem)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/transhumanism/330084/10 "2021-09-28T06:57:28Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > That doesn’t really seem an EVE topic as such. I guess we could limit Transhumanism to the fictional, that would generate as much value as the rest of the forum I guess. Not to put too fine a point on it: EVE gives us a unique opportunity to examine the human condition. A chance to understand why we make the choices we make and reflect on the consequences of our mistakes. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/transhumanism/330084/11 "2021-09-28T06:59:13Z")
> [@Snowflake\_Tem](#): > > A chance to understand why we make the choices we make and reflect on the consequences of our mistakes. It’s just a video game. We blow ■■■■ up in it. Sometimes it doesn’t have to be any deeper then that. ---
**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Tem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_tem/32/432971_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Tem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Tem)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/transhumanism/330084/12 "2021-09-28T07:00:30Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > Sometimes it doesn’t have to be any deeper then that. I agree. I does not have to be. Yet it often is. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/transhumanism/330084/13 "2021-09-28T07:00:59Z")
If its worth doing itll be too expensive for me to worry about ---
**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Tem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_tem/32/432971_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Tem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Tem)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/transhumanism/330084/14 "2021-09-28T07:05:04Z")
Pretty sure that folk are opting into these medical experiments for free. But I would not recommend that. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 7:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/transhumanism/330084/15 "2021-09-28T07:07:05Z")
Oh I dont mean prototypes I mean the one they will be wanting to sell. If you volunteer to be a test subject you are an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/transhumanism/330084/16 "2021-09-28T07:12:40Z")
Once I’m done with this body they can put my brain and nervous system into a robot. ![9b2323d73ec92d8c70e9dfb8413ab5c4](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/1/d/91db87576337ac9aeb6e950c8e8d4fa375c60ea2.jpeg) I won’t accept anything less. ---
**Author:** ![Qia\_Kare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/qia_kare/32/279281_2.png) [@Qia\_Kare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Qia_Kare)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/transhumanism/330084/17 "2021-09-28T07:12:52Z")
I wanted to say that I did a bit of a headdesk when I realized I knew what you were talking about, but I didn’t want to go off topic. Now that I see the OP also seems in on the gag, though, I can say I liked Ratchet, but Prowl was good, too. ---
**Author:** ![Pan\_Dora1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pan_dora1/32/277067_2.png) [@Pan\_Dora1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pan_Dora1)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 10:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/transhumanism/330084/18 "2021-09-28T10:46:59Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > If its worth doing itll be too expensive for me to worry about Some consider that organ transplantation, corrective surgery and even prosthetics are within the scope of transhumanism. Some of these can be “not cheap but affordable” depending where you live. ---
**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Tem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_tem/32/432971_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Tem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Tem)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/transhumanism/330084/19 "2021-09-28T11:12:18Z")
> [@Pan\_Dora1](#): > > Some consider that organ transplantation, corrective surgery and even prosthetics are within the scope of transhumanism Absolutely! The core of what I want to explore here is: Does EVE promote transhumanism or is it serving as a warning about the potential negatives of transhumanism. I recall Hilmar talking positively about transhuman potential in a video yet the different races and clades of the game’s storyline can be perceived to serve as notice for undesirable outcomes. Similarly, it is difficult to deny the benefits of organ transplants, blood transfusion technology yet right now cultures suffer forced organ harvesting for profit and endure the transmission of undesirable elements. Nurolace technology could open up an ocean of data for mankind to swim freely amongst, or be used to enslave it forever. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/transhumanism/330084/20 "2021-09-28T11:46:51Z")
> [@Snowflake\_Tem](#): > > Does EVE promote transhumanism Only CCP can give the answer. What others make of it happens in their own minds. Same with the boosters. One could ask " Does EvE promote the use of drugs ?". Or slavery, or racism, or binaries, … Not all discussions make sense. They may even break more value than they could ever create. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/transhumanism/330084.md?page=2)