# Triglavian Advertising

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-advertising/146154>\
**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Created:** [March 14, 2019, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-advertising/146154 "2019-03-14T18:48:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-advertising/146154/122 "2019-03-17T17:13:00Z")

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> [@Aria\_Jenneth](#):
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> A lot of the way they approach things seems to suggest that they don’t.

Or that, with a philosophy of constantly proving oneself, they choose not to, because to go elsewhere would be admitting they _couldn’t_ prove themselves.

> [@Lirbiss\_Naraunt](#):
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> Triglavian gender

Let’s not even get into that until we can actually have a consensus about _our own_ gender organization, hmm?

**AND THIS IS NOT THE PLACE FOR THAT CONVERSATION, SO DON’T GO TRYING TO HAVE IT. IT WILL ONLY MAKE A MESS.**

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**Author:** ![Annisir\_Kaugan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annisir_kaugan/32/388372_2.png) [@Annisir\_Kaugan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annisir_Kaugan)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-advertising/146154/123 "2019-03-17T17:20:42Z")

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No, I’m going off the fact that we don’t see any Triglavian residential infrastructure.

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**Author:** ![Jason\_Galente](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jason_galente/32/383984_2.png) [@Jason\_Galente](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jason_Galente)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-advertising/146154/124 "2019-03-17T17:31:53Z")

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Similar to the Mannar as well.

So far, I actually like the Triglavians. I mean, do we really have any reason not to?

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-advertising/146154/125 "2019-03-17T17:39:35Z")

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Well, there are some folks who’d say that under the emetive[1] property of politics, they’re allied with the Amarr, and that’s reason enough to oppose them. Personally, though, I’ve never really subscribed to that principle.

I _do_ question them letting a bunch of bloodthirsty, reckless, immature maniacs play with weapons technology they don’t understand. That’s kind of a big ‘uhmmm, should we really trust their judgment here?’ but otherwise, they seem ok.

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1. The emetive, or EMEtive property of politics, aka the ‘Enemy of My Enemy’ property, which would hold that since they’re at war with the group that blew up the Amarr Empress, they’re naturally aligned with the Amarr Empire.

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**Author:** ![Cipher\_Darkrun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cipher_darkrun/32/125273_2.png) [@Cipher\_Darkrun](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cipher_Darkrun)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 11:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-advertising/146154/126 "2019-03-17T23:24:17Z")

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I believe the Triglavian ships within the abyss have been corrupted. The Triglave word for ship is “Narodyna” according to the broadcast:

**The Deviant Automata must conform or be extirpated.** - I presume this to mean deviant drones.

**The Corrupted Narodyna must be extirpated.** - read: corrupted ships

**Human Augmented Narodyna must prove the direction of their Flow.** - read: human augmented ships

I feel this demonstrates their civility. Their home has been overun, and now they’ve invoked the “Caldistic Proving” or the “Abyss Sites” to test our fitness to enter the flow of Vyraj.

Now would be a good time to begin collecting the materials held within the bio-caches within the abyss. I feel a door is about to open…

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_Paradisi\_Anteovnuecci](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_paradisi_anteovnuecci/32/388691_2.png) [@Uriel\_Paradisi\_Anteovnuecci](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_Paradisi_Anteovnuecci)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 11:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-advertising/146154/127 "2019-03-17T23:56:46Z")

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As a correction, Narodnya refers to human people or bodies - the datastreams thus far demonstrate as much, and the broadcast says the same. Hivelinked Foreign Narodnya are Sansha, and Augmented Foreign Narodnya are us in our capsules - which they call “command nuclei”.

I’m eager to see where this proving may take us all, however - if the Triglavians begin to accept outside help in their war, the Drifters may have to adapt as well.

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**Author:** ![Cipher\_Darkrun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cipher_darkrun/32/125273_2.png) [@Cipher\_Darkrun](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cipher_Darkrun)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-advertising/146154/128 "2019-03-18T00:02:26Z")

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Correction taken. Thank you Uriel.

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**Author:** ![Marius8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marius8/32/50065_2.png) [@Marius8](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marius8)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-advertising/146154/129 "2019-03-18T13:58:39Z")

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Sansha may be called “Hivelinked Foreign Narodnya”, but here they are indeed called “Corrupted Narodnya”.  
This sounds, like they don’t like, what the Sansha are doing to the ‘Narodnya’.

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**Author:** ![Annisir\_Kaugan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annisir_kaugan/32/388372_2.png) [@Annisir\_Kaugan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annisir_Kaugan)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-advertising/146154/130 "2019-03-18T14:19:44Z")

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Sansha use Jovian style implant tech, which appears to be what they mean by hivelinking, but to control people. To me, that sounds like its a clear case of corruption.

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**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-advertising/146154/131 "2019-03-18T14:37:15Z")

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Well … only, the capsule rig is a Jovian-style implant, Mr. Kaugan. They don’t appear to consider us hivelinked, just “augmented.”

Apparently you don’t get the hivelink without linking to something like a hive mind.

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**Author:** ![Annisir\_Kaugan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annisir_kaugan/32/388372_2.png) [@Annisir\_Kaugan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annisir_Kaugan)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-advertising/146154/132 "2019-03-18T14:39:16Z")

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Not a hive mind, a hive. The Sansha is similar in that it has a central control unit.

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**Author:** ![Siegfried\_Tahl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/siegfried_tahl/32/377209_2.png) [@Siegfried\_Tahl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Siegfried_Tahl)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-advertising/146154/133 "2019-03-18T16:57:17Z")

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> [@Evi\_Polevhia](#):
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> **The Ancient Domains beyond the Flow of Vyraj were lost to us. Intruders in the Ancient Domains corrupted the Flow.**
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> **Intruders seek to corrupt the Flow of Vyraj and the Domain of Buyan.**
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> **The Ancient Enemy Azdaja must be extirpated.**

This part makes me think that “Flow of Viraj” are Nexus thingies in Drifter Wormholes. Which means Drifters Wormholes are “Ancient Domains”. Remember Nexus room looked different when it was first discovered. Something catastrophic happened there the next day after discovery. Thus Drifters “corrupted the Flow”, i.e. destroyed or damaged the gates to Domain of Buyan. Does that make any sense?

> [@Evi\_Polevhia](#):
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> **Human Augmented Narodyna must prove the direction of their Flow.**

Capsuleers must choose a side. Or rather Triglavians are yet to decide are we a threat for them.

> [@Evi\_Polevhia](#):
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> **Narodyna moving through the Flow of Vyraj may be fit to enter. Narodyna without fitness will be expelled from the Flow.**
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> **The Convocation of Triglav Outside the Struggle invoke Cladistic Proving. Glorification of the fit, and mortification of the unfit (???) of the Flow.**

Did anyone try playing around with Coalesced Element in Nexus room recently?

> **out of pod**
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> If this refers to Abyss PVP I’m done with EVE lore.

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**Author:** ![Annisir\_Kaugan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annisir_kaugan/32/388372_2.png) [@Annisir\_Kaugan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annisir_Kaugan)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-advertising/146154/134 "2019-03-18T17:22:09Z")

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We generally hit the Drifter complexes about twice a month. Normally checking everything we can. Nothing has changed.

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**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-advertising/146154/135 "2019-03-18T17:50:09Z")

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> [@Aria\_Jenneth](#):
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> One head, three voices?

It’s a helm, Ms. Jeneth. There’s no way to say does the head belong to one human, three humans or there are three thousands of them, all in same helmets.

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**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-advertising/146154/136 "2019-03-18T17:53:38Z")

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> [@Cipher\_Darkrun](#):
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> **The Corrupted Narodyna must be extirpated.** - read: corrupted ships

Somehow I think about Sansha Nation, considering they are going all against “hivelinked” deviants.

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**Author:** ![Siegfried\_Tahl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/siegfried_tahl/32/377209_2.png) [@Siegfried\_Tahl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Siegfried_Tahl)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-advertising/146154/137 "2019-03-18T18:20:45Z")

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Have been thinking about it some more. I’m now convinced that Flow of Viraj are Triglavian Proving Conduits (PVP Rooms) and there is no connection in this message to Drifter Wormholes whatsoever as I hastily assumed.

But then I don’t see any new info in this message except:

**The Ancient Domains beyond the Flow of Vyraj were lost to us. Intruders in the Ancient Domains corrupted the Flow. Intruders seek to corrupt the Flow of Vyraj and the Domain of Buyan.**

So Ancient Domains are most likely Abyssal pockets. If Proving Conduits are Flow of Vyraj, then Domain of Buyan must be a place we have not seen yet.

We know who intruders are, **The Ancient Enemy Azdaja** The Drifters, **The Deviant Automata** Rogue Drones, **The Corrupted Narodyna must be extirpated.** Sansha, **Human Augmented Narodyna** us.

It’s been a long time since I went to Abyss myself, but I don’t remember seeing Sansha in Abyss.

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**Author:** ![Annisir\_Kaugan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annisir_kaugan/32/388372_2.png) [@Annisir\_Kaugan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annisir_Kaugan)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-advertising/146154/138 "2019-03-18T20:10:22Z")

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No the images of Sansha ships in the message correlates with the audio talking about Corrupted Narodnya but to be honest, it doesn’t look like any of the Abyss I have seen. It may be that Sansha have been able to use their incursion technology to access the Triglavian homelands.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2019, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-advertising/146154/139 "2019-03-18T21:08:31Z")

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Someone tried a Phantasm in the Abyss, and the Trigs decided to spy on New Eden to figure out WTF that was. Then they saw the Sansha and said ‘oh, hell no. English muffins or GTFO. Screw these toasters.’

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**Author:** ![DutchGunner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dutchgunner/32/378183_2.png) [@DutchGunner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DutchGunner)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2019, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-advertising/146154/140 "2019-03-20T21:46:49Z")

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I have noticed a change within the Abyss in the last 24 hours. Yesterday I was still able to interact with the Bioadaptive cache and exchange the triglavian trinary survey databases for triglavian trinary datastreams.

Today that is no longer possible. Has anyone else noticed the same or other changes?

Update:  
It seems that you now need to be in close proximity and send a correct sequence of signals. This should allow the exchange to be possible.  
The correct sequence of signals is still unknown to me at this point but perhaps this could be part of what is being referred to with proving our direction of Flow?

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**Author:** ![Annisir\_Kaugan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annisir_kaugan/32/388372_2.png) [@Annisir\_Kaugan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annisir_Kaugan)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2019, 12:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-advertising/146154/141 "2019-03-21T00:09:51Z")

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It seems to be broken and I opened some Data Cache’s from earlier missions, only got Survey Databases, no datastreams.

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