# Triglavian Fleet Destroying Pods and Ships in High Sec - November 2020 **URL:** \ **Category:** PvE Ships & Modules\ **Tags:** pve\ **Created:** [November 9, 2020, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-fleet-destroying-pods-and-ships-in-high-sec-november-2020/278984 "2020-11-09T21:16:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2021, 11:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-fleet-destroying-pods-and-ships-in-high-sec-november-2020/278984/201 "2021-02-15T23:31:43Z")
> **Jung:** The video games industry is becoming more competitive over obtaining strong IPs. We knew that in order to continue growing, we would need more IPs than Black Desert alone, and that’s why we made the decision to take the company public and raise additional capital to acquire promising IP and talent. > The $425 million includes both cash and a bonus earnout if certain financial targets are met. 😛 They seen POTENTIAL. There is risk associated with investment, and to mitigate it there are some targets to meet. Failing those will have consequences. If CCP doesnt meet the goals and most importantly expectations, well, PA have gave too much, lol. But for now they look like good bois. Getting more of that $$. And you player, just play the game and adapt,or pay for that PLEX if you cant. Dedicated playerbase will not fail so easily. 😂 I am doing my part by spinning ships. I hope they have those hamsters fed with caviar for that. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 12:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-fleet-destroying-pods-and-ships-in-high-sec-november-2020/278984/202 "2021-02-16T00:32:37Z")
I’ve already given you the numbers, its up to you what you want to do with it, as an IP EVE isn’t really worth that much as evidenced by what they paid versus what they have had in returns on that investment, as a whole PA is underperforming compared to last year And yes i am aware of what Jung stated during that interview, but as much as i’ve enjoyed playing EVE in the last near 17 years i’ve never tried to convince myself that its anything other than a niche product, EVE is unfortunately past its peak, its not going away anytime soon but its not exactly going to surge in popularity ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-fleet-destroying-pods-and-ships-in-high-sec-november-2020/278984/203 "2021-02-16T00:55:20Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > its up to you what you want to do with it That is not my problem, this is PA problem now, and they will have to deal with it accordingly, EVE is going strong, the rest is what brings down $$ numbers. That is why the squizing for $ will not stop, not matter how many old players will stop caring about the game and start spinning ships and ranting. But for now CCP makes it look like It doesnt have to surge in popularity, only in profitability. CCP have broke so many promises in attempt to pick up everyones wallet. People were loosing, and are loosing orcas, freighters, exhumers etc, all of that is attemt to get more cash squized out of them, and that will not stop, you can be sure. ---
**Author:** ![Ridley\_Rohan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ridley_rohan/32/403694_2.png) [@Ridley\_Rohan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ridley_Rohan)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 2:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-fleet-destroying-pods-and-ships-in-high-sec-november-2020/278984/204 "2021-02-16T02:20:25Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > Indeed it is, just like against players, you just have to be quick enough to click on something to warp to So you expect me to believe you, who just says you can, against someone who experienced it first hand and says you can’t? Its not that I necessarily believe either of you, but you sir have no leg to stand on to make the claim without an “I think” or some other caveat attached. As for being fast enough, I don’t care how fast you are, an NPC can be faster. It just depends on programming. Are they too fast for any human? I don’t know, but you talk like that’s just not possible and again you fail. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-fleet-destroying-pods-and-ships-in-high-sec-november-2020/278984/205 "2021-02-16T11:34:58Z")
> [@Ridley\_Rohan](#): > > So you expect me to believe you, who just says you can, against someone who experienced it first hand and says you can’t? “I can’t do it therefore nobody else can” Its because you’re just straight up doing it wrong > [@Ridley\_Rohan](#): > > Its not that I necessarily believe either of you, but you sir have no leg to stand on to make the claim without an “I think” or some other caveat attached. I have nearly 17 years experience of getting my pod out of sticky situations, i have many many legs with which to stand > [@Ridley\_Rohan](#): > > As for being fast enough, I don’t care how fast you are, an NPC can be faster. Yes and no, they still have to follow the normal rules of engagement so yeah they can still be avoided, you just have to be entirely on the ball and not be wasting time using right click menus to warp just like you don’t with players, the selected item window is your friend, as soon as you know you’re about to lose a ship you find a celestial, you click it and you spam the warp button in the selected items window, rocket science it is not ---
**Author:** ![Ridley\_Rohan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ridley_rohan/32/403694_2.png) [@Ridley\_Rohan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ridley_Rohan)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-fleet-destroying-pods-and-ships-in-high-sec-november-2020/278984/206 "2021-02-16T12:24:39Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > “I can’t do it therefore nobody else can” > > Its because you’re just straight up doing it wrong I am actually not doing anything. I have never been blown up by Trigs. > [@Cypherous](#): > > I have nearly 17 years experience of getting my pod out of sticky situations, i have many many legs with which to stand I also have experience in this though not as much. But can you not see that Trigs are behaving very, very differently from other NPCs? I cannot think of any other NPC that pods you. AFAIK this is new and CCP may have either rigged it a certain way or screwed up the programming. IDK. Neither do you. But I am not going to dismiss the claim of someone with direct experience for your indirect experience. In fact, I hold the former in higher regard. > [@Cypherous](#): > > they still have to follow the normal rules of engagement No they don’t. They will follow whatever programming they are given, which as I said earlier, could be mistaken programming. Its not like EVE programming has never had glitches and mistakes before. Go get a character blown up by Trigs then we will know. Until then, none of us can be so certain. So stop talking down as if you are a dev. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-fleet-destroying-pods-and-ships-in-high-sec-november-2020/278984/207 "2021-02-16T12:30:05Z")
> [@Ridley\_Rohan](#): > > But you can you not see that Trigs are behaving very, very differently from other NPCs? Sure, but the underlying game mechanics still work the same and still apply to them, they still need a server tick to lock you as the server still has to process their actions > [@Ridley\_Rohan](#): > > I cannot think of any other NPC that pods you. AFAIK the FOB rats also do it as do drifters iirc, this isn’t a new mechanic > [@Ridley\_Rohan](#): > > No they don’t. They will follow whatever programming they are given Yes, which still has to operate within the games simulation, while NPC’s do cheat with things like having infinite lock ranges and infinite capacitor they still have to have their commands processed by the server, they still have to comply with the same basic mechanics of the game, i mean you’re free to disagree but thats not going to change that the game logic still has to be processed in the same way a player command does, they just don’t have to contend with latency or slower human reaction times > [@Ridley\_Rohan](#): > > Go get a character blown up by Trigs then we will know. Until then, none of us can be so certain. So stop talking down as if you are a dev. Oh i have been, and i’ve run fleets combating them for months, i mean i appreciate you want to try and prove your point but i’ve already done it numerous times > **[Anathema | Cypherous | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/88609729/)** > > Cypherous (Liberty Rogues) lost their Anathema in Perimeter (The Forge) Total Value: 36,018,314.08 ISK There you go, a ship loss without a pod loss, thereby literally proving it can be done, i’ve given you the instructions on how to avoid this above, go test them on SISI so you can learn to do it correctly ---
**Author:** ![Ridley\_Rohan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ridley_rohan/32/403694_2.png) [@Ridley\_Rohan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ridley_Rohan)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-fleet-destroying-pods-and-ships-in-high-sec-november-2020/278984/208 "2021-02-16T12:46:02Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > AFAIK the FOB rats also do it as do drifters iirc, this isn’t a new mechanic Ah yes. Thanks for correcting me. > [@Cypherous](#): > > they just don’t have to contend with latency or slower human reaction times I have no proof of it ever happening, but I cannot see how it would be impossible for programming to make it impossible for people to escape. Its not just from the Trig end of it either. Even our pods could be made momentarily unresponsive in the event our ship loss is to Trigs. It would be small enough for us not to notice, but for Trigs to scramble us. > [@Cypherous](#): > > There you go, a ship loss without a pod loss, thereby literally proving it can be done, Thanks even if such evidence is a bit late. But I have to point out, that was three months ago and there have been programming changes since then. Still, its compelling evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-fleet-destroying-pods-and-ships-in-high-sec-november-2020/278984/209 "2021-02-16T14:16:21Z")
> [@Ridley\_Rohan](#): > > I have no proof of it ever happening, but I cannot see how it would be impossible for programming to make it impossible for people to escape. Its not just from the Trig end of it either. Even our pods could be made momentarily unresponsive in the event our ship loss is to Trigs. It would be small enough for us not to notice, but for Trigs to scramble us. Might want to try taking the tinfoil off there bud If they wanted to make sure your pod wasn’t getting out they already have a mechanic for that, its called a warp bubble > [@Ridley\_Rohan](#): > > Thanks even if such evidence is a bit late. But I have to point out, that was three months ago and there have been programming changes since then. Still, its compelling evidence. Well like i said you can literally login to SISI and test this for yourself, but considering these warp mechanics haven’t changed in literal years 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Ridley\_Rohan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ridley_rohan/32/403694_2.png) [@Ridley\_Rohan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ridley_Rohan)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-fleet-destroying-pods-and-ships-in-high-sec-november-2020/278984/210 "2021-02-16T15:04:42Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > If they wanted to make sure your pod wasn’t getting out Might want to recall my point about mistakes there bud. > [@Cypherous](#): > > but considering these warp mechanics haven’t changed in literal years Wasn’t talking about the warp mechanics in any general sort of way. > [@Cypherous](#): > > Well like i said you can literally login to SISI and test this for yourself, If you say so. I never have. I know nothing about it. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2021, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-fleet-destroying-pods-and-ships-in-high-sec-november-2020/278984/211 "2021-02-16T16:18:49Z")
It is possible to warp out with orca on trig gatecamp that have 2 scramblers. You would have to use both the low slots for stabs (who does that), and ecm drones to jam the second scrambler. Generally you can not be ganked by trigs if you know where they are also. Convenience tho. Nobody using orca daily have time for that. They would rather spend few hours in Pochven to forget about all that trig debacle, giving finger to CCP and Trigs one more time. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/d/4/7d40273253c9615057a92ae04447ac11feaf4b7c.jpeg "No one cares, Trash (Filthy Frank Moment)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr6sTZjnHJA) ---
**Author:** ![Vadania\_Danann](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vadania_danann/32/391007_2.png) [@Vadania\_Danann](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vadania_Danann)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2021, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-fleet-destroying-pods-and-ships-in-high-sec-november-2020/278984/212 "2021-02-17T19:09:49Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/7/5/4753bc37b6c46d29777e5b527731552961a28d37.png) [zkillboard.com](https://zkillboard.com/kill/88609729/) > > ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/2/92b8715f4438e7744eef095711d5b3c0981b95d1.jpeg) > > ### [Anathema | Cypherous | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/88609729/) > > Cypherous (Liberty Rogues) lost their Anathema in Perimeter (The Forge) Total Value: 36,018,314.08 ISK > > There you go, a ship loss without a pod loss, thereby literally proving it can be done, i’ve given you the instructions on how to avoid this above, go test them on SISI so you can learn to do it correctly Now, I’m LMAO. Was this going out of a stargate ? Because I see you lost a freakin’ Covert Ops ship… I don’t think you can brag about your game skills. Since you are a useless fanboy knowitall troll, but yet failed to explain how to get out of those situation (because you are too busy to brag about how good you are at adapting, why would you waste time explaining how to actually adapt? That is your thaught process?) Here, for the other newbies like me, how to get out of stargates safely. Just found that the other night. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/b/d/dbd60606f564cbd53e5c29b8714518a2cd70dc90.jpeg "EVE Online's Cloak + Microwarpdrive Trick") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0T4hBxEoF8) Now, you newbs like me still needs to grind for some ISK and skills to get the cloaking device and the other modules to make your ships more agile. And decide if you want multiple cloaking devices for all your valuable ships, or just one and swap it over as you need. YET : THERE IS STILL AN ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM The Trigs gang banging in high sec stargates are still a dumb implementation. No matter if a fanboy shrug a any dumb implementations, dumb is always dumb. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-fleet-destroying-pods-and-ships-in-high-sec-november-2020/278984/213 "2021-02-17T20:17:49Z")
> [@Vadania\_Danann](#): > > Now, I’m LMAO. Was this going out of a stargate ? Because I see you lost a freakin’ Covert Ops ship… I don’t think you can brag about your game skills. Yup it was a gate, one littered with a lot of garbage, couldn’t actually cloak as i had just jumped through the gate, and i must have missed the part where i made claims about skills > [@Vadania\_Danann](#): > > Since you are a useless fanboy knowitall troll, but yet failed to explain how to get out of those situation (because you are too busy to brag about how good you are at adapting, why would you waste time explaining how to actually adapt? That is your thaught process?) Pot meet kettle 😛 And i’ve told people how to adapt, its called gaining positive standings with the triglavians, not that i expect you to have paid enough attention to notice that > [@Vadania\_Danann](#): > > Here, for the other newbies like me, how to get out of stargates safely. Just found that the other night. Yeah thats also an option, for ships you can actually fit a cloak and MWD to, not to mention needing to be a subscriber in order to actually be able to use a cloak, which rules out any of the freighters for starters, it can work pretty well, but you do have to gimp your fit and it prevents any kind of inactivity during jumps, having positive standings negates that issue entirely > [@Vadania\_Danann](#): > > The Trigs gang banging in high sec stargates are still a dumb implementation. No matter if a fanboy shrug a any dumb implementations, dumb is always dumb. You not liking something nor wanting to have to deal with something getting in the way of your gaming time doesn’t make it dumb sadly, the universe actually has some threats now that you can’t predict and you either have to interact with them (by either learning to avoid them or gaining standings, which is a 15 minute job btw) or move out of caldari space You’re freely allowed to disagree all you like, but despite having lost ships to them i just adapt and carry on instead of whining about it on the forums 😛 Just like i have been since 2004 ---
**Author:** ![Vadania\_Danann](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vadania_danann/32/391007_2.png) [@Vadania\_Danann](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vadania_Danann)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2021, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-fleet-destroying-pods-and-ships-in-high-sec-november-2020/278984/214 "2021-02-17T21:18:38Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > And i’ve told people how to adapt, its called gaining positive standings with the triglavians, not that i expect you to have paid enough attention to notice that You didn’t “explain” anything I could remember (or that I care to read from you). You tactic is usually to troll and show off, from what I could see in the few threads I read. You are gate camping this forum feeling the need to put your personal grain of salf… or grain of sand, everywhere. Anyway, as for the actually explanation for the standing with Trigs, I got that part already, and it was provided kindly, without braging abour herself, by @Nana_Skalski . See here. > [@Triglavian Fleet Destroying Pods and Ships in High Sec - November 2020](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-fleet-destroying-pods-and-ships-in-high-sec-november-2020/278984/161): > > Thanks for the suggestion and the link. I don’t feel like it at the moment. Maybe when the anger settles, who knows. This would still not resolve the non-sensical situation where Trigs are gate camping in front of Concord/Faction navy. There is this elephant in the room, and I’ll keep pointing my finger at it, and putting the nose of CCP in the poop they made. So like I said, you are a useless troll, not caring about explaining. You just mentionned it, for as much as I know. (I didn’t re-read the whole 213 previous comment on this post to see if you actually care about being usefull to the forum and provide actual, usable information to newbies (but my understanding so far is that you feel too important, because, hey, you trollin’ since 2004). Cheers, ---
**Author:** ![Vadania\_Danann](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vadania_danann/32/391007_2.png) [@Vadania\_Danann](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vadania_Danann)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2021, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-fleet-destroying-pods-and-ships-in-high-sec-november-2020/278984/215 "2021-02-17T21:26:32Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > not to mention needing to be a subscriber in order to actually be able to use a cloak I’ll give you credit for this : since I promised to stop my Omega over this Trig \*\*\*\*, going for the standing with them is a better option. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2021, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-fleet-destroying-pods-and-ships-in-high-sec-november-2020/278984/216 "2021-02-17T21:59:38Z")
> [@Vadania\_Danann](#): > > You tactic is usually to troll Your\*\* And by all means show where i’m actually trolling by the actual definition and not just because i have a different opinion than you 😛 > [@Vadania\_Danann](#): > > You are gate camping this forum feeling the need to put your personal grain of salf… or grain of sand, everywhere. So browsing the forums of a game i play with my free time isn’t allowed? 😛 > [@Vadania\_Danann](#): > > So like I said, you are a useless troll Citation needed lol > [@Vadania\_Danann](#): > > not caring about explaining I’ve linked the EDI website which covers all of this stuff numerous times on the forum, you not reading it is neither here nor there, and personally i would rather you didn’t, your whining is quite amusing to watch > [@Vadania\_Danann](#): > > I didn’t re-read the whole 213 previous comment on this post Honestly not surprised, thats why you’re making incorrect assumptions lol > [@Vadania\_Danann](#): > > care about being usefull to the forum and provide actual, usable information to newbies I run an entire website dedicated to the triglavians, not that you would read enough to realise this 😛 Which includes but is not limited to details on how to fix your standings with them and a tracker to help you avoid known active systems, not that i need to justify my presence to someone unwilling to read an entire forum thread 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2021, 6:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-fleet-destroying-pods-and-ships-in-high-sec-november-2020/278984/217 "2021-02-18T06:42:16Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > I run an entire website dedicated to the triglavians Yes, apart from list of known WH candidates which is usefull, there is the tracker, but I will not advise people to use it. Tracker isnt 100% reliable and never will be, because of how the mechanics in game works. Peeps still need to scan their way ahead to be sure. I am personally not using the tracker, as I often found the system on list had WH already closed and there were no systems on it that actually had trigs on gates. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2021, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-fleet-destroying-pods-and-ships-in-high-sec-november-2020/278984/218 "2021-02-18T11:42:03Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > Tracker isnt 100% reliable and never will be, because of how the mechanics in game works. Peeps still need to scan their way ahead to be sure. For sure, but it also helps people hunting them and not just avoiding them, you’re under no obligation to tell people to use it by any means > [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > I am personally not using the tracker, as I often found the system on list had WH already closed and there were no systems on it that actually had trigs on gates. Yeah thats just the luck of the draw, based on how the information is added to the site and when, there isn’t any way to know exactly how old a trig WH is due to them always being EoL as their lifespan is only 12 hours, thing is the accuracy only improves by people using it and reporting closed holes so they can be removed 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2021, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-fleet-destroying-pods-and-ships-in-high-sec-november-2020/278984/219 "2021-02-18T11:56:17Z")
About the escaping from trigs, covert ship is not needed. Good tank and 4 warp stabs work good too. Warp stabs nullify the effect of 2 anchoring trigs warp scrambling you, Just warp out then. If you add to that a complete fly of ECM drones in battleship, you can even jam the third anchoring if it for some reason happens to be on gate. It is called a travel fit and you just travel with it fitted, then go to station or moon using mobile depot (trigs are not at moons) and refit for mission or combat. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2021, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-fleet-destroying-pods-and-ships-in-high-sec-november-2020/278984/220 "2021-02-18T20:59:14Z")
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