# Triglavian ganking is awful **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 19, 2019, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246 "2019-09-19T18:53:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ms\_Steak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ms_steak/32/168834_2.png) [@Ms\_Steak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ms_Steak)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/23 "2019-09-20T14:02:09Z")
> [@Xuixien](#): > > 17kEHP and some repping: And now for some space magic: > **Epithal, 35k EHP** > > [Epithal, Epithal fit] > > Damage Control II > Reactor Control Unit II > Reactor Control Unit II > Reactor Control Unit II > > Large Shield Extender II > Large Shield Extender II > Adaptive Invulnerability Field II > Adaptive Invulnerability Field II > > [Empty High slot] > [Empty High slot] > > Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I > Medium Core Defense Field Extender I > Medium Core Defense Field Extender I ---
**Author:** ![Fayte](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fayte/32/371975_2.png) [@Fayte](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fayte)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/24 "2019-09-20T14:22:29Z")
Space Darwin at work. Defying Bob errday. ![img_2320](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/2/3/233d4e668f705cca5952d10b9d0d096b8e4a6894.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/25 "2019-09-20T14:24:50Z")
Real men Hull tank ---
**Author:** ![Fayte](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fayte/32/371975_2.png) [@Fayte](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fayte)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/26 "2019-09-20T14:26:11Z")
I got caught once. Just once. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/27 "2019-09-20T14:33:06Z")
I’ve been attacked but easily escaped due to the fact that trigs don’t scream and I always fit tank. Then I started fighting back and made some ISK. OP is whining about trigs… wait until an FOB spawns in his system and some diamonds drop on him. ---
**Author:** ![Salvador\_Sinak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvador_sinak/32/172832_2.png) [@Salvador\_Sinak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvador_Sinak)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/28 "2019-09-20T14:46:10Z")
> [@Xuixien](#): > > [Epithal, Epithal fit] > > Damage Control II > Reinforced Bulkheads II > Reinforced Bulkheads II > Reinforced Bulkheads II > > Medium Shield Extender II > Adaptive Invulnerability Field II > Adaptive Invulnerability Field II > Medium Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 50 > > [Empty High slot] > [Empty High slot] > > Medium Core Defense Field Extender I > Medium Core Defense Field Extender I > Medium Core Defense Field Extender I This is an absolutely horrible fit, and will get you killed by a Triglavian recon squad. When flying a T1 industrial ship, you need to be able to not just tank, but also able to GTFO. Not only do those Reinforced bulkheads nerf your cargo capacity, they also kill your ship’s agility which increases it’s align time. This is _not_ what you want when you have several hundred incoming DPS. Ditch the reinforced bulkheads and replace them with Inertial Stabilizer II’s to get to warp faster. Swap the Medium Shield Extender II for a Large module. I’m not for sure why this fit has Shield and cap boosters in the mids, when an epithal only has 4 mid slots. If you know the incoming damage type from Triglavians you can tank for that specifically. Pesonally I would consider droping in a kinetic damage resistance amplifier module in my mids, although two shields extenders and fields might be better. Going with three defense field extenders can work, but personally I might consider doing a low friction nozzle rig for more agility, and possibly an EM ward rig. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/29 "2019-09-20T15:10:25Z")
Hey bro you _do_ realize that Bulkheads don’t affect specialized cargo bays, _such as planetary commodities_… _right_? The Epithal only has a few hundred m3 ship cargo. No one is hauling PI in the Epithal’s ship cargo. The PI goes in the planetary commodities bay. The reason there’s shield and cap boosters is because that’s how Ancillary reppers work. Look into that. The fit is fine. If my bulkhead Procurer with 20kEHP can get out of a trig gank with more than 75% shield, so will this Epithal fit. The fit is fine, you just don’t understand some game mechanics. ---
**Author:** ![Haulie\_Berry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/haulie_berry/32/388021_2.png) [@Haulie\_Berry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Haulie_Berry)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/30 "2019-09-20T15:41:55Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > What is “fun” about beeing killed in 5 seconds? Have you considered _gittin’ gud_? It will prevent you from dying in 5 seconds. ---
**Author:** ![Salvador\_Sinak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvador_sinak/32/172832_2.png) [@Salvador\_Sinak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvador_Sinak)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/31 "2019-09-20T16:00:08Z")
Actually to be honest, I have never used an ancillary shield booster module on any of my industrial ships and the principle behind their operation is not very well documented. But I get it now. If I am correct, these modules are active give a quick boost to your shields every so many seconds and consume cap batteries as “fuel”. This runs counter to my typical fits which have been geared more towards resisting getting alpha’d by gankers. Coupled with high resists I can see how one of these modules could definitely keep a player alive during prolonged attack by Triglavians. I will have a generous helping of crow on adding such a module into a fit, but still like my Istabs. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/32 "2019-09-20T16:14:00Z")
> [@Ash\_Beldrulf](#): > > I would expect the monthly report to show that this coming month. No highsec mining yield is just a drop in a sea. Even if all players stop mining in highsec you would not see a difference. ---
**Author:** ![xxxTRUSTxxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xxxtrustxxx/32/285949_2.png) [@xxxTRUSTxxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xxxTRUSTxxx)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/33 "2019-09-20T16:19:43Z")
> [@Santhenar](#): > > I’m not AFK, but I had the sound turned down so in each instance I’ve looked away from the screen for five ■■■■■■■ seconds and then… DEAD. sound down, not looking at the screen = AFK doesn’t matter a feck how long you did it for. > [@Santhenar](#): > > warped into a planetary customs office and then brought up the planetary infrastructure screen you need help, join a corp with people willing to show you the way. you never do PI at the poco. > [@Santhenar](#): > > So far I’ve probably lost 100mil to triglavian ganks in hisec if only you didn’t have your sound down and looking at another feckin screen. you might still have that 100m. > [@Santhenar](#): > > There’s simply nothing that can be done. learn how to play the game, you need to hang with people who are willing to help you not feck up. but i get the feeling you’ll still have sound down and eyes elsewhere. 👀 prove me wrong 😉 > [@Santhenar](#): > > It’s really ■■■■ and I’m sure I’m not the only person on the verge of quitting as a result. way to go quitter 🙂 games too hard, just give up, it’s not for you, or, prove us all wrong 👀 and stick around and master the game. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/34 "2019-09-20T16:21:52Z")
> [@Salvador\_Sinak](#): > > I will have a generous helping of crow Well, that’s not something you see everyday on the EVE forums. Yes, there are ancil shield boosters and ancil armor reppers; they both use charges (cap boosters and nanite repair paste, respectively) but function a little differently. There are even remote rep versions of each. Still waiting for ancil hull reps. 🙃CCPlease But yeah I’ll probably be switching my Epithal fits now cuz those LSEs are smexy ---
**Author:** ![Ms\_Steak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ms_steak/32/168834_2.png) [@Ms\_Steak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ms_Steak)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/35 "2019-09-20T16:35:42Z")
> [@Xuixien](#): > > But yeah I’ll probably be switching my Epithal fits now cuz those LSEs are smexy one LSE and one MSE and PDSes instead of RCUs also work. ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/36 "2019-09-20T18:06:35Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > Explains a lot. Looks like you struck a nerve lol, your post is presently hidden. People don’t like it when the truth illustrates their stupidity. ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/37 "2019-09-20T18:10:49Z")
> [@Xuixien](#): > > trigs don’t scream Nobody can hear you scream in space anyways. That said, if you’re already making it out without losing shield, I’d suggest you replace your bulkheads with nanos. You’ll GTFO faster, while still having the same (edit: shield) buffer and specialized cargo capacity. Plus your normal operation will be easier because it’ll get into warp faster. ---
**Author:** ![dewk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dewk/32/168218_2.png) [@dewk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/dewk)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/38 "2019-09-20T20:30:21Z")
Sorry OP, but you yourself have been make the issues not the Trig Scouts. If you’re having trouble with these you have a large learning curve before you go into the other Secs. Golden rule is **NEVER TURN VOLUME DOWN OR OFF IF IN SPACE** , and **IF YOU UNDOCK YOU ACCEPT YOU WILL LOOSE YOUR SHIP** , these are the golden rule of EVE. Since the Trig Scouts have been running, no one i know have lost a ship to them, some might get pissed due to having to warp away from site, but if there’s enough ships in the location the Trig Scouts don’t last long. So fleet or be more alert if solo. ---
**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/39 "2019-09-20T21:31:46Z")
> [@Gowa\_Hyasyoda](#): > > Wanting to quit playing is pretty normal, it is your lesser self telling you to just give up the challenge and play another game where your lack of experience or awareness doesn’t really count for much of a difference. You know…according to the 4% noobs that still stay in the game after the first month in CCP’s own statistics the OVERWHELIMING majority of todays players don’t want “danger” or “challenge” inside their playing experience… MAYBEY(just maybe) CCP should go for the 96% and not the 4%? Would be more healthy for the game in my eyes… ---
**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/40 "2019-09-20T21:36:48Z")
> [@Salvador\_Sinak](#): > > This is an absolutely horrible fit, and will get you killed by a Triglavian recon squad. When flying a T1 industrial ship, you need to be able to not just tank, but also able to GTFO. Not only do those Reinforced bulkheads nerf your cargo capacity, they also kill your ship’s agility which increases it’s align time. This is _not_ what you want when you have several hundred incoming DPS. I love it when guys spit out their own certainities that are completly irrelevant for the topic… ---
**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/41 "2019-09-20T21:37:49Z")
> [@Haulie\_Berry](#): > > Have you considered _gitting gud_ ? It will prevent you from dying in 5 seconds. Shouldn’t be necessary in high,that’s exactly my point… ---
**Author:** ![Haulie\_Berry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/haulie_berry/32/388021_2.png) [@Haulie\_Berry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Haulie_Berry)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/42 "2019-09-20T21:52:47Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > Shouldn’t be necessary in high,that’s exactly my point… …because… why? I mean if you want high to just be a great big Charmin-soft newbie zone, that’s fine, just remove anything of value from it, but complaining that any degree of challenge might exist in highsec is the type of juvenile claptrap that could only come from you. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246.md?page=3)