# Triglavian ganking is awful

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [September 19, 2019, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246 "2019-09-19T18:53:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/84 "2019-09-24T07:13:32Z")

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> [@Old\_Pervert](#):
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> There, I ftfy.

Simply face the reality of PVP in any game.even “PVP games”…

PVP IS a minority EVERYWHERE…

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**Author:** ![Katana\_Masen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katana_masen/32/471330_2.png) [@Katana\_Masen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katana_Masen)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/85 "2019-09-24T07:16:14Z")

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Completely agree. I’m not in high-sec but have experienced how these hi-sec trig frigates are awful.  
I convince this new trig roaming fleet is really devastating New player experiences.

Newbies are never warned to be ganked by trigs.  
I’m not insisting to remove trigs from invaded systems. Whoever insist to remove sansha rats from incursion systems ? It’s completely responsible for one own if being killed by these rats because newbies will be warned before entering systems. However there are no warnings for newbies and they don’t have way to know when or why they are assaulted by trigs in these normal systems.

These triglavian fleets are estimated to have 300 - 400 + DPS. It’s super over powered for these newbies like mining in hi-sec. At least pirates cruisers are needed to tank it which are not easily affordable newbies. And what is the most annoying is they do respawn infinitely. In worst case I’ve experienced, they respawned right 30 seconds after the another fleet defeated.

No warning, too-overpowered, infinite respawn … newbies will get it as unfair - newbies can do nothing to avoid them because they warp site to site and will respawn again and again even if they defeat it with risking expensive combat ships.

And it’s easy to guess these newbies will leave game and will not return forever.

CCP is eager to “improve” NPE but they have another urgent thing to do. Just remove trig frigates roaming. You are killing brand new players.

It’s interesting nullbears who were crying for drifters roaming are saying “this is eve, just don’t fly ships you can’t lose” for highsec newbies. Then, why did you guys cry for drifters ? Can someone tell me whats difference ?

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**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/86 "2019-09-24T07:23:10Z")

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> [@Madlightning](#):
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> I started using this to train new players on how to react to survive in eve. HELL YEAH they are annoying but it makes people better pilots. they give null sec minrals to high sec players well sometimes things have to get more difficult

no…high should be safe ,a place where noobs can fly to learn straight BEFORE the have to fight for their lifes…

FACT is that NOW noobs only learn to run away or be killed and the overwheliming majority simply looses the interest after 1-2 weeks due to beeing killed multiple times…

The days in that spurs at least a few to get better are -according to CCP’s own statistic again(96% gone after the first month remember?) - are obviously over.

So the only logical conclusion that has to be drawn by CCP has to make high even SAFER and not harder.

But it’s CCP…they always do the opposite of what should be done so…

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**Author:** ![xxxTRUSTxxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xxxtrustxxx/32/285949_2.png) [@xxxTRUSTxxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xxxTRUSTxxx)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/87 "2019-09-24T07:25:02Z")

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> [@Duro\_Peripar](#):
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> So the only logical conclusion that has to be drawn by CCP has to make high even SAFER and not harder.

this from a salty little bollox who doesn’t play EVE, go away troll.🤣🤣🤣🤣

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**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/88 "2019-09-24T07:28:14Z")

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Yeah that’s your dream right…your immagination of a ideal world where only YOUR opinion counts and all that oppose you just go away right? 🙂

I feel sorry for you but your helicopter parents were wrong in teaching you that…

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**Author:** ![xxxTRUSTxxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xxxtrustxxx/32/285949_2.png) [@xxxTRUSTxxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xxxTRUSTxxx)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/89 "2019-09-24T07:32:56Z")

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you don’t play EVE, you think you’re upsetting people or something, giving EVE and it’s players a hard time because you where pants at the game and stopped playing.

you’re so feckin salty i bet you float in fresh water 🤣

just go away, nobody cares what you have to say.

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**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/90 "2019-09-24T07:42:54Z")

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You may wish that but beside what your helicopter parents do a wish is normally not granted… 😛

So i guess its better YOU leave or you will be very sad… 🙂

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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/91 "2019-09-24T08:27:49Z")

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> [@Xuixien](#):
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> Hey bro you _do_ realize that Bulkheads don’t affect specialized cargo bays

Exactly! I really don’t understand people who have still issues with t1 haulers. The specialized cargo bays made it extremely easy to tank those haulers and some of them can easily get into the 60k range IIRC without giving any space away in the specialized hold.

Yet we still see people using anti-tanked general purpose haulers that explode when you sneeze in their vicinity and then come here and cry that the t1 haulers suck.

> [@Fayte](#):
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> Space Darwin at work. Defying Bob errday.
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> ![img_2320.jpg](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/2/3/233d4e668f705cca5952d10b9d0d096b8e4a6894.jpeg)

This is so true.

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**Author:** ![xxxTRUSTxxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xxxtrustxxx/32/285949_2.png) [@xxxTRUSTxxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xxxTRUSTxxx)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2019, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/92 "2019-09-24T09:49:16Z")

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> [@Duro\_Peripar](#):
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> You may wish that but beside what your helicopter parents do a wish is normally not granted… 😛
> 
> So i guess its better YOU leave or you will be very sad…

 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/6/6/6650ac72b596336204aa4c3de08af5c9b435d0c8.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/93 "2019-09-25T11:45:05Z")

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> [@xxxTRUSTxxx](#):
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> ![280.jpg](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/6/6/6650ac72b596336204aa4c3de08af5c9b435d0c8.jpeg)

Yeah…exactly my feeling about you…

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/94 "2019-09-25T12:48:43Z")

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> [@Duro\_Peripar](#):
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> your immagination of a ideal world where only YOUR opinion counts and all that oppose you just go away right?

You do realise that this is exactly how you look to others, don’t you?

Medice, cura te ipsum

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**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/95 "2019-09-25T15:12:41Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> You do realise that this is exactly how you look to others, don’t you?
> 
> Medice, cura te ipsum

Wrong to the core…the difference is that i KNOW i am right and all the others just imagine it 🙂

Accepting this fact let denying my opinion become obsolete 😛

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/96 "2019-09-25T15:21:11Z")

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> [@Duro\_Peripar](#):
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> Wrong to the core…the difference is that i KNOW i am right and all the others just imagine it 🙂
> 
> Accepting this fact let denying my opinion become obsolete

So what you’re saying is that only your opinion counts, and everybody else can go away?

In what way are you qualified to state that you’re right, and that anybody that disagrees with your opinion, which isn’t a fact btw, is not?

You don’t even understand the premise of the game ffs.

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**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/97 "2019-09-25T19:19:42Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> So what you’re saying is that only your opinion counts, and everybody else can go away?
> 
> In what way are you qualified to state that you’re right, and that anybody that disagrees with your opinion, which isn’t a fact btw, is not?
> 
> You don’t even understand the premise of the game ffs.

I am right out of myself regardless what others say 🙂

This is called self confidence and you cannot judge just live it… 😛

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2019, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/98 "2019-09-25T19:31:44Z")

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You made the same mistake five times.  
You did not learn from your mistakes.  
You did not try coming up with a solution to your problem.  
You blame the game for your inability to learn from your mistakes.  
You declare yourself the victim.  
We are required to agree with you.

/thread.

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**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/100 "2019-09-26T15:05:56Z")

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> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> You made the same mistake five times.  
> You did not learn from your mistakes.  
> You did not try coming up with a solution to your problem.  
> You blame the game for your inability to learn from your mistakes.  
> You declare yourself the victim.  
> We are required to agree with you.

And your point is?

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**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/101 "2019-09-27T08:37:01Z")

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Triglavian invasion is unordinar and funny. But, it’s true, their overall dps is huge at gatecamps or stationcamps. If you don’t pay attention and not react fast, they’ll evaporate any normal M-class industrial ship before it will even warp out.

For guys with big guns and thick shields it’s funny, for guys which should transport goods in a fragile ships it’s not so.

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**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/102 "2019-09-27T11:14:47Z")

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> [@Rexxar\_Santaro](#):
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> For guys with big guns and thick shields it’s funny, for guys which should transport goods in a fragile ships it’s not so.

I would rather use the word “outrageous”…

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**Author:** ![Ronnie\_Rose](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ronnie_rose/32/446230_2.png) [@Ronnie\_Rose](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ronnie_Rose)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/103 "2019-09-29T10:04:54Z")

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Just dock and stop playing. Later just stop paying.

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking-is-awful/191246/104 "2019-09-29T10:09:42Z")

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> [@Duro\_Peripar](#):
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> no clue what i’m talking about

We know.

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