# Triglavian Ganking **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 17, 2019, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking/183352 "2019-08-17T10:54:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Onictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onictus/32/277200_2.png) [@Onictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onictus)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking/183352/187 "2019-08-19T13:34:59Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > Yesterday at least, it was told they were respawning without any way to stop them ; also increasing in size, to get something like 300 DPS with web, neutra, and remote rep. So yeah, the first group I blapped re-spawned and went right back to the belt, I know this because I was trying to salvage =D After two warp in and and outs with an unfit Ibis I came back with a real ship and they were gone. They were on D-scan but they weren’t messing with me. I also catch them scanning my rait pretty regularly. Reports that they attack you under tether are also bullsh!t they don’t you are tethered (yes I tested this). ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking/183352/188 "2019-08-19T13:38:31Z")
> [@Onictus](#): > > So yeah, the first group I blapped re-spawned and went right back to the belt how many were they ? only 2 ? or more ? ---
**Author:** ![Onictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onictus/32/277200_2.png) [@Onictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onictus)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking/183352/189 "2019-08-19T13:40:20Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > how many were they ? only 2 ? or more ? Full 5 Renewing, two neuters, a tracking disruptor and two recons. I was also in my abysal fit ■■■■ just trying to get my 1 kill for SP at the time, when I notice there were 9 ships in the belt in a VERY high sec system…4 seekers as well, because of course there were. Also LOL Fruedian typo ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking/183352/190 "2019-08-19T13:49:47Z")
Thank you for all those data 🙂 Did you let them ramp up the DPS on the abyssal fit to see how good you can tank it ? if yes, how much EHP/s does your fit have ? This is to know if CCP changed them to reduce the DPS. Your fleet composition should do like 300DPs once spooled up. ---
**Author:** ![Onictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/onictus/32/277200_2.png) [@Onictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Onictus)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking/183352/191 "2019-08-19T13:55:53Z")
They had 100s over all to ramp, I blapped most of them before they got there. Its not indicative, because again, my T4/T5 abysal ship and clone. Most aren’t operating in that space in a belt. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking/183352/192 "2019-08-19T14:01:08Z")
They only need 36s, below 18km, to ramp up. Then you can activate all your tank and look if they can slowly mow you down or if your rep is enough. I guess I should do it with a praxis (because omni resists) ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking/183352/193 "2019-08-19T14:41:44Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > We’ve been lagging well behind in destruction for 5 years, probably more. The new chaos era is a small correction for that. > > The new npc’s are doing what players should have been empowered to do all this time, but were heavily nerfed instead. To an extent yes (I think we are still short on destruction vs. production though). But I find it pretty sad that CCP felt the solution to ‘more destruction’ was ‘let’s add killer NPCs’ rather than ‘let’s empower players to create more destruction on both sides of the equation - targets and hunters both’. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_Xavis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/paul_xavis/32/152086_2.png) [@Paul\_Xavis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Paul_Xavis)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking/183352/194 "2019-08-19T14:58:00Z")
I really, really like more whining about OP NPC than making one player over other just to allow easy destruction. Also, low destruction is not a issue but ease of making everything without any risk. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking/183352/195 "2019-08-19T15:07:14Z")
> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > But I find it pretty sad that CCP felt the solution to ‘more destruction’ was ‘let’s add killer NPCs’ rather than ‘let’s empower players to create more destruction on both sides of the equation - targets and hunters both’. Couldn’t agree more. Maybe the population of eve is too low for enough destruction without massive changes, or maybe npc’s are easier to turn on and off. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking/183352/196 "2019-08-19T15:10:03Z")
They are easier to control. CCP learnt to not give powerful tools in the hands of players. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking/183352/197 "2019-08-19T15:17:42Z")
Update: Same salvaging Algos, different system. Warped to belt where Recons already were. Came out of warp, waited, they left. ---
**Author:** ![Mirriam\_Frostbite](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mirriam_frostbite/32/145958_2.png) [@Mirriam\_Frostbite](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mirriam_Frostbite)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking/183352/198 "2019-08-19T16:06:25Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > > Too bad we can’t reprogram the Recon Damavik to go after CODE instead of miners. > > That would be great if I can bait them and drag them directly into some miner swarm. What do you think they will do next once they killed my noob ship? I lol’d, good one. > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > Thank you for all those data 🙂 +1 > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Warped to belt where Recons already were. Came out of warp, waited, they left. Strange behaviour. I would love to see the coding, maybe something like: If Ramona warps to belt Then GTFO ---
**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking/183352/199 "2019-08-19T16:11:57Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > Who said this ? > I asked for sources. That is, even before giving any kind of judgement. > And yeah 4% instead of 2% is a **100%** error rate in your data. > With this level of error you are not even allowed to within 10km from the conference building. Complete BS… If 20 or 40 of 1000 noobs stay after the first month is for the topic of this post comepletly irrelevant…and i SAID TO YOU to look yourself for proof because it is so easy to find…you didn’t because you don’t wanted to be proven wrong so now you try to turn it around on me which in no way works… I was right,YOU were wrong and now you are rowing back your boat and defend yourself even KNOWING that it is NOT relevant if it may be 20 or 40 of 1000… Bottom line… ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking/183352/200 "2019-08-19T17:04:40Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > Complete BS… No. The BS is you claiming numbers, without a source. THAT is the definition of BS. Whatever comes after that is irrelevant. Because it is BS. ---
**Author:** ![Ms\_Steak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ms_steak/32/168834_2.png) [@Ms\_Steak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ms_Steak)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking/183352/201 "2019-08-19T17:05:42Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > Bottom line… …it is offtopic ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking/183352/202 "2019-08-19T17:15:43Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > Therefore you say that HS miner are all about isk printing. Dude, I don’t know what your problem is, but can you please stop making up stuff I supposedly say. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking/183352/203 "2019-08-19T17:17:11Z")
Yet that is exaclty what you did. Unless you did not realize you were answering to someone who was talking about HS gameplay. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking/183352/204 "2019-08-19T17:26:14Z")
Look troll, I never talked about miners, which should be pretty clear from what you cited. What I said is that highsec carebears don’t care about the actual gameplay of their PvE, they only care about maximizing ISK and minimizing risk. CCP could produce the most interesting and engaging PvE in all of gaming and this people would still moan if it isn’t doable AFK in perfect safety while watching Netflix with more or equal ISK/h to whatever they do now. This is why I say they are only interested in ISK printing and not in actual PvE content. And that is why it just doesn’t pay off to produce PvE content, they already have what they want. CCP should focus on the PvP side of the game, enough to fix there. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking/183352/205 "2019-08-19T20:31:28Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > What I said is that highsec carebears don’t care about the actual gameplay of their PvE, they only care about maximizing ISK and minimizing risk. you litterally said that the issue was with HS player wanting “only about to print isk”. While HS miner don’t print ANY isk from their activity. Which means that your post was absurd. So now it’s alright if you nitpick terms about “what is PVP or PVE” but when somebody else does it with you it gives you the right to call him a troll ? Go divide yourself prokaryoto. ---
**Author:** ![Mirriam\_Frostbite](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mirriam_frostbite/32/145958_2.png) [@Mirriam\_Frostbite](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mirriam_Frostbite)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking/183352/206 "2019-08-19T20:48:44Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > What I said is that highsec carebears don’t care about the actual gameplay of their PvE, they only care about maximizing ISK and minimizing risk. Min/maxing requires very good knowledge of gameplay. You can say the same thing about PvP. No good FC would start a fight without minimizing risk, i.e. wanting to win the fight. Unless it’s a suicide gank. And I’ve never seen the battlefield not looted for isk in the aftermath. But let’s stick to the topic: how to deal with the Recon Damavik. Right now, I think they’re more of a nuisance than a real danger to highsec. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking/183352.md?page=9) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganking/183352.md?page=11)