# Triglavian Ganks in hi-sec non minory victory systems **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** pve, high-sec\ **Created:** [November 2, 2020, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617 "2020-11-02T18:56:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Dark\_Shadow\_777](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_shadow_777/32/264486_2.png) [@Dark\_Shadow\_777](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Shadow_777)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/1 "2020-11-02T18:56:20Z")
Just noticed in the last week or so: some hi-sec systems sometimes have Triglavian fleets on gates. I guess - a number of people pissed off getting destroyed and podded by them. My kid lost a Gila because of them, and I managed to run into them multiple times in Tengu. So far what I know - it’s related to wormhole(s) in system and nothing in patch notes. Any idea: it’s intended to piss off some people or it’s bug or it’s side effects of latest patches? ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/2 "2020-11-02T19:08:46Z")
The Trigs show up in their minor victory systems and they show up in any system that happens to randomly have a Pochven wormhole connection. When Pochven first came out, these wormhole connections were rare, but I guess CCP made them super-common now, so that there are 5-10 highsec connections at a time. I haven’t been following it much, though. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Shadow\_777](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_shadow_777/32/264486_2.png) [@Dark\_Shadow\_777](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Shadow_777)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/3 "2020-11-02T19:15:21Z")
Today I met trigs couple times in a hour in [Sarekuwa](https://zkillboard.com/system/30001377/) . It ended bad for them, but they managed to destroy some innocent people. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Shadow\_777](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_shadow_777/32/264486_2.png) [@Dark\_Shadow\_777](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Shadow_777)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/5 "2020-11-02T19:20:20Z")
Yep. He is doing mostly filaments. I’m flying mostly Tengu or trigs exterminators. Kid sometimes using my account. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/6 "2020-11-02T19:59:59Z")
Account sharing is verboten ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/7 "2020-11-02T20:01:29Z")
When it is within your own family it is only _mostly_ forbidden. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/8 "2020-11-02T20:27:28Z")
> [@Dark\_Shadow\_777](#): > > Any idea: it’s intended to piss off some people or it’s bug or it’s side effects of latest patches? They are likely still trying to drive destruction. We aren’t out of the woods economy wise yet. ---
**Author:** ![Gaius\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaius_mileghere/32/258417_2.png) [@Gaius\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaius_Mileghere)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/9 "2020-11-02T21:30:34Z")
um… it was mentioned some time ago that wormholes would be appearing connecting t-space to k-space, and that trig npcs would be traversing them. I get excited when I find one of these wormholes 'cos that means pewpew and DED loyalty points. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Shadow\_777](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_shadow_777/32/264486_2.png) [@Dark\_Shadow\_777](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Shadow_777)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/10 "2020-11-02T21:55:50Z")
> [@Gaius\_Mileghere](#): > > um… it was mentioned some time ago that wormholes would be appearing connecting t-space to k-space, and that trig npcs would be traversing them. It’s nice and cool, but IMHO they should not camp gates. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/11 "2020-11-02T23:09:27Z")
> [@Dark\_Shadow\_777](#): > > > [@Gaius\_Mileghere](#): > > > > um… it was mentioned some time ago that wormholes would be appearing connecting t-space to k-space, and that trig npcs would be traversing them. > > It’s nice and cool, but IMHO they should not camp gates Where else are they going to camp and not just be a loot piñata? They are supposed to be a threat to people, hence camping gates 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/12 "2020-11-02T23:11:13Z")
They should put up some werposts at the stations. ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 11:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/13 "2020-11-02T23:42:27Z")
> [@Dark\_Shadow\_777](#): > > Any idea: it’s intended to piss off some people or it’s bug or it’s side effects of latest patches? CCP seems to have this weird idea that destruction, in and of itself, is good for the game. Since they’ve designed their game such that’s it generally too boring for most players to engage in destruction, they’ve decided they need to put in NPCs and core rule changes to create the destruction instead. They haven’t stopped to think “why is destruction good?” or “what will the player base think of all this random destruction created just to nuke as much player assets as possible?”. They just look at the economic mistakes they’ve made over the past decade, notice there’s a lot more production than destruction, and decided that if they inflate the destruction artificially, everything will be fixed. This is known in some circles as “putting the cart before the horse”. If they ever bothered to learn any fundamental game design and player psychology, they would realize they’ve got it backward. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 11:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/14 "2020-11-02T23:54:36Z")
> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > This is known in some circles as “putting the cart before the horse”. If they ever bothered to learn any fundamental game design and player psychology, they would realize they’ve got it backward. LOL Destruction has always been part of the core of the game, they are just getting back to that, people seem to think high sec is safe, that incorrect mentality needs to be corrected ---
**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 12:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/15 "2020-11-03T00:04:44Z")
> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > Since they’ve designed their game such that’s it generally too boring for most players to engage in destruction, they’ve decided they need to put in NPCs and core rule changes to create the destruction instead. People complain either way. Whether it’s NPCs or players doing the destruction it doesn’t alter the flow of salt. I do think that CCP’s intentions are not often matched by their implementations. ---
**Author:** ![Buggs\_LeRoach](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buggs_leroach/32/376676_2.png) [@Buggs\_LeRoach](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buggs_LeRoach)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/16 "2020-11-03T00:29:25Z")
> [@Dark\_Shadow\_777](#): > > It’s nice and cool, but IMHO they should not camp gates. the fleet has moved to an asteroid belt now . you ok with that ? they’re not that hard to avoid , it’s not instant-lock as some have claimed … maybe it’s time you had “the talk” with your son ; explaining the dangers of being afk and using auto-pilot … 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gaius\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaius_mileghere/32/258417_2.png) [@Gaius\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaius_Mileghere)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 1:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/17 "2020-11-03T01:46:22Z")
> [@Buggs\_LeRoach](#): > > maybe it’s time you had “the talk” with your son ; explaining the dangers of being afk and using auto-pilot … I’ve never heard it called that before… ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 6:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/18 "2020-11-03T06:38:34Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > They are supposed to be a threat to people, hence camping gates Not a threat but a killing force. Solo battleships doesnt have much chance with the 20 raznaborg NPCs with at least 2 Scrams and web, rodivas and few leshaks. I dont think orcas are tanky enough to do something. All you can do is try to get out by using cloak or warp stabilizers, not fight when solo. Or get your standings positive towards both EDENCOM and trigs… which is a way of forcing everyone in high sec into that aborted mostrosity called Pochven region. Its a fleet content, it doesnt warn you before you jump into system, wormholes appear around the trading hubs where people transport in industrials. Its a way of CCP/PA terrorizing players to try new “content”. They put a knife on your throat and tell you to jump into Pochven. # This is what it is. 🗡 😨 Its also a way they are messing in a bad way with EDENCOM players, because they got really high EDENCOM standings and low trig standings in effect, and now would need to do really long grind before they are positive to both. 👮‍♀️ ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/19 "2020-11-03T08:54:00Z")
Good synopsis. You forgot to mention that CCP’s constant meddling and intervention with the game is removing the sandbox aspect and turning Eve Online into a scripted theme park. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/20 "2020-11-03T10:39:16Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > Or get your standings positive towards both EDENCOM and trigs… Which for people who weren’t part of the war requires you to shoot 1 NPC and wait 15 minutes 😛 Avoiding them is pretty easy if you’re not lazy, like i said i’m enjoying watching things explode ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/21 "2020-11-03T11:17:21Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > shoot 1 NPC Which NPC? Only shoot? I think you have to go into Pochven region and kill the rogue drone or the Drifter, before something kills you first. Not so easy task as you depict it. The wormhole entrances are outside also full of trigs, the gates to system are camped ocasionally. And anyone new to the game will be attacked by them. So you have to get inside Pochven ignoring all trigs wanting to kill you, inside also. For peeps who would want to get their standings equalized with edencom and trigs whats left is killing Edencom NPCs in the edencom sites mostly. So switching sides and becoming a traitor. 😧 Then going into Pochven to kill that rogue drone or drifter. Korean Grind Online that is the new mantra for CCP developers. No solo for you people. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617.md?page=2)