# Triglavian Ganks in hi-sec non minory victory systems **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** pve, high-sec\ **Created:** [November 2, 2020, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617 "2020-11-02T18:56:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/82 "2020-11-05T17:07:24Z")
> [@Evei\_Shard](#): > > Do Trig/E-com ships show up on D-scan? Yes, but you dont see them from another system. When you jump in, you are in for a surprise. No warning message, no nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Evei\_Shard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/evei_shard/32/245990_2.png) [@Evei\_Shard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Evei_Shard)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/83 "2020-11-05T17:17:31Z")
That is not really any different from a player based gate-camp. There _is_ the map, which gives a murky idea of what might be in the next system though. I think it is possible that CCP is, as I said, looking to bring gate camping to all areas of space in a manner that doesn’t require the removal of Concord. Being that the wormholes can spawn anywhere in New Eden, the push seems to be to force people to have scouts in throw away ships/pods 100% of the time. I don’t roam in Null, but I’d be interested to know if this sort of NPC activity would affect ratting or other activities in Null that people currently do without much fear of being attacked, and if so, is this one of the measures against botting? ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/84 "2020-11-05T17:19:36Z")
> [@Evei\_Shard](#): > > Do Trig/E-com ships show up on D-scan? > > and, just a random question: will these Trig ships attack Drifter ships if they both show up on the same gate? Yes and Yes. Trigs are actively patrolling their space. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/85 "2020-11-05T17:24:09Z")
I am interested to see if the anti-gankers will eventually abandon their efforts against other players and start focusing on managing the Triglavian gate camps. ---
**Author:** ![Evei\_Shard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/evei_shard/32/245990_2.png) [@Evei\_Shard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Evei_Shard)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/86 "2020-11-05T17:42:52Z")
More likely they’ll pay for a second or third Omega account and just use a throw-away scout. This is probably CCP’s end goal. More money. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/87 "2020-11-05T18:06:58Z")
but remember kids the more alts you have the smaller your wiwi gets ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/88 "2020-11-05T18:12:26Z")
Who’s afraid of a little Triglavian gate camp? [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/9/99ddb4b6b7b19e2ae6074cb18d46889dad360ff4.gif) ](https://64.media.tumblr.com/f4946e4f470255a45f8152ef69b06e84/tumblr_inline_na9dyhfCqy1slyi0z.gif) ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/89 "2020-11-05T18:13:57Z")
i dont like kirbys ![Unknown](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/5/4579b2429c3f0f1f16c23c139caa5794449fbeec.png) ---
**Author:** ![Aesir\_Valtari](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aesir_valtari/32/488282_2.png) [@Aesir\_Valtari](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aesir_Valtari)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/90 "2020-11-05T18:29:54Z")
I’ll just say that this situation with roaming Triglavian NPC fleet camping at jump gates in high sec is just disgusting and cannot be justified by any means. I’ve already submitted support ticket asking for explanation, because right now, this mess with Triglavian WH and their “guarding” fleet lack any of logic rational approach to the subject. ---
**Author:** ![Scam\_Newton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scam_newton/32/480401_2.png) [@Scam\_Newton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scam_Newton)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/91 "2020-11-05T18:45:54Z")
The solar systems that used to be in the vicinity of Raravoss has seen five trig wormholes in the past five days. There have been losses on gates, belts and stations. This is not like a player gank, where the ganking pilot has a small amount of time to apply enough dps to kill you. You might encounter a trig fleet with scrams and webs when you jump through a hi sec gate, and no one is coming to your aid and there is no time limit on how long they take to destroy you. This pretty well curtails activity in the area as pilots contemplate moving out or maybe moving on to a different venue of entertainment. I have no idea why CCP wants to keep rendering useless some players huge investment of time and currency to get to a certain level of expertise and productivity in New Eden by all these radical changes. It is almost like they are trying to fail. ---
**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/92 "2020-11-05T19:00:45Z")
I’m neutral with both factions to be honest i’m just not playing, i’m ignoring everything CCP is realeasing and continuing to do lvl 4 missions. Mining is ■■■■ pvp is ■■■■ sov warfare is ■■■■ lvl 4 missions are ■■■■ wormholes are ■■■■. To be honest i don’t know why i still play this game, and no you cannot have my ■■■■ either. It’s just one of those days where i’m hating eve online we all get them. forum rant over back to the undock for more ■■■■ xD o7 ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/93 "2020-11-05T19:03:56Z")
yeah ■■■■ ■■■■ ■■■■ ■■■■ ---
**Author:** ![Evei\_Shard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/evei_shard/32/245990_2.png) [@Evei\_Shard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Evei_Shard)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/94 "2020-11-05T19:10:30Z")
> [@Scam\_Newton](#): > > I have no idea why CCP wants to keep rendering useless some players huge investment of time and currency to get to a certain level of expertise and productivity in New Eden by all these radical changes. Probably because some metrics somewhere show that a comany can make 0.0000001% more profit per quarter due to people just pulling out their credit card to catch up from their losses. At this point, I’m surprised they opted for wormholes and didn’t just add a mechanic where there’s a random chance the star gate will “malfunction” and you simply get completely destroyed upon using it. ---
**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/95 "2020-11-05T19:11:46Z")
Damn that’s nasty, don’t give em ideas xd. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/96 "2020-11-05T19:14:06Z")
> [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](#): > > I’m neutral with both factions to be honest i’m just not playing By default trigs are hostile, so if you didnt play, you will be ganked by them. You would first have to visit Pochven to fix your standings, like every new player, 1 day old or actually an alt. ---
**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/97 "2020-11-05T19:16:02Z")
Tha’s not gonna happen visiting Pochven is off the table maybe on my alt. My mains stay neutral triggs can fire all they want I have the capabilities to remain indifferent. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/98 "2020-11-05T19:17:32Z")
Give it a year or two. Highsec Trigs will be about as scary are regular belt rats and you will hardly ever see a werpost, or they will be so wimpy they won’t even get through your shields. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/99 "2020-11-05T19:18:58Z")
I just had a thought, that change might have been made just to show some big boss there, that devs actuallly had some success to show with participation numbers with Pochven. ---
**Author:** ![Evei\_Shard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/evei_shard/32/245990_2.png) [@Evei\_Shard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Evei_Shard)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/100 "2020-11-05T19:20:01Z")
I’d rather they make hunting them worth the time. At the very least they could have Trig wormholes marked differently on the probe scanner so when entering a system it’s clear when you come into the system that you’re playing Russian Roulette. ---
**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/101 "2020-11-05T19:20:26Z")
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