# Triglavian Ganks in hi-sec non minory victory systems **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** pve, high-sec\ **Created:** [November 2, 2020, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617 "2020-11-02T18:56:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/102 "2020-11-05T19:22:10Z")
If we are talking about middle managers then their whole world revolves around messing stuff up and then fixing it. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/103 "2020-11-05T19:22:14Z")
I am actually thinking upper management is a middle management in CCP. They answer to PA in the end. ---
**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/104 "2020-11-05T19:23:23Z")
I have an analogy for middle managers I used to call mine ■■■■ shufflers xD or turd tossers. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Shadow\_777](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_shadow_777/32/264486_2.png) [@Dark\_Shadow\_777](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Shadow_777)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/105 "2020-11-05T22:32:39Z")
> [@Evei\_Shard](#): > > I’m surprised they opted for wormholes and didn’t just add a mechanic where there’s a random chance the star gate will “malfunction” and you simply get completely destroyed upon using it Let set a chance 1 out of 10 and It will be really great business idea - everyone will need to use they credit cards to keep up with losses. Plus you need to have an omega account to use cloak to deal with triglavian gatecamps … ---
**Author:** ![Evei\_Shard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/evei_shard/32/245990_2.png) [@Evei\_Shard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Evei_Shard)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/106 "2020-11-05T22:35:36Z")
> [@Dark\_Shadow\_777](#): > > everyone will need to use they credit cards to keep up with losses. Plus you need to have an omega account to use cloak to deal with triglavian gatecamps … Pretty much. It’s always about money. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Shadow\_777](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_shadow_777/32/264486_2.png) [@Dark\_Shadow\_777](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Shadow_777)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 10:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/107 "2020-11-05T22:47:44Z")
It’s about money, but it should be done smart way. You created free to play option, but how many of those new people will stay and pay because of losses of everything they’ve got in first days of playing in gatecamp they can’t avoid. Ps. Personally I’m not care so much, but hi-sec triglavian gatecamps created small logistic problem for me ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/108 "2020-11-05T23:08:31Z")
Interesting. I noticed a big ass trig fleet in a non minor victory system today, hanging near a customs office. Guess that answers my question. Seems like Trig roaming fleets are present in systems that have wh connections to “pochven”. ---
**Author:** ![Evei\_Shard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/evei_shard/32/245990_2.png) [@Evei\_Shard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Evei_Shard)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 11:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/109 "2020-11-05T23:15:09Z")
Define “big ass”? I’m curious as to what the composition is, and what people are up against if they decide to go after them. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/110 "2020-11-05T23:16:28Z")
Oh, i had leshaks on dscan, scramblers, all sorts. The kind of fleet that will eat your pod if you don’t go in full force 😜 ---
**Author:** ![Evei\_Shard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/evei_shard/32/245990_2.png) [@Evei\_Shard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Evei_Shard)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 11:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/111 "2020-11-05T23:35:23Z")
Are you implying that the mighty Ibis would be anything less than EZ mode? Gaem to hard :rage quit: ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/112 "2020-11-05T23:39:06Z")
waaaaahahahahaha you’re funny beyond comprehension ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Shadow\_777](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_shadow_777/32/264486_2.png) [@Dark\_Shadow\_777](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Shadow_777)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2020, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/113 "2020-11-05T23:46:25Z")
> [@Evei\_Shard](#): > > Are you implying that the mighty Ibis would be anything less than EZ mode? Mighty ibis will fight them and after that it’s owner will hit uninstall button or just smash monitor with keyboard And where is a balance? Triglavian followers should suffer from sudden EDENCOM ganks as well ---
**Author:** ![Evei\_Shard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/evei_shard/32/245990_2.png) [@Evei\_Shard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Evei_Shard)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/114 "2020-11-06T00:04:05Z")
Perhaps Edencom ships could follow the pattern of Concord. Only instead of it being based on the system security status, the higher your standings with Edencom, the faster they will spawn in a system to assist you at a gate camped by Trigs. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/115 "2020-11-06T00:06:32Z")
Pretty soon we will all give up and get our obligatory positive Edencom and Triglavian +0.001 standing. After that, Trigs will only be there for ganking new players. ---
**Author:** ![Evei\_Shard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/evei_shard/32/245990_2.png) [@Evei\_Shard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Evei_Shard)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/116 "2020-11-06T00:07:43Z")
Ganking rookies is against the rules. Does this mean the Trigs will get banned? Or the dev that created them? ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Shadow\_777](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_shadow_777/32/264486_2.png) [@Dark\_Shadow\_777](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Shadow_777)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/117 "2020-11-06T00:07:54Z")
> [@Evei\_Shard](#): > > the higher your standings with Edencom, the faster they will spawn in a system to assist you at a gate camped by Trigs You are kidding … They can not make Concord protection from ganks, but EDENCOM… - impossible task ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 6:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/118 "2020-11-06T06:22:17Z")
Full force? Not solo. Rattlesnake is not enough firepower and tank against the fleets I have seen on gates. Couple of leshaks, 2 scramblers, rodivas, webbers, the rest all kind of ships from damaviks to drekavacs all in all a sizable fleet of around 20 trigs. Someone would need to escape and dock up to regenerate shields. ---
**Author:** ![Izumi\_Misheru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/izumi_misheru/32/267178_2.png) [@Izumi\_Misheru](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Izumi_Misheru)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/119 "2020-11-06T07:32:08Z")
I think EVE should be about choosing which content you wish to engage in. But if CCP wants to insist on presenting the content in such a forceful manner, there should be interesting ways to prevent getting killed on gates in high-sec, or at least getting a warning before you jump. This is just a slap in the face of those who spend their leisure time and money to play the game. CCP: introducing tedium and forced content is bad for the game. If you want people to engage in your new content, make it NOT SUCK. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/120 "2020-11-06T07:37:50Z")
> [@Izumi\_Misheru](#): > > I think EVE should be about choosing which content you wish to engage in. EVE never has been like this … … and it’s a rather isolationist thing to say. You can do what you want … … but you can only _try_ preventing others from doing what they want … with you. > [@Izumi\_Misheru](#): > > tedium What tedium? How’s that even an argument for or against anything? ---
**Author:** ![Izumi\_Misheru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/izumi_misheru/32/267178_2.png) [@Izumi\_Misheru](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Izumi_Misheru)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-ganks-in-hi-sec-non-minory-victory-systems/277617/121 "2020-11-06T07:43:06Z")
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