# Triglavian Invasion of High sec rant **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 16, 2020, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-invasion-of-high-sec-rant/267363 "2020-09-16T15:47:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-invasion-of-high-sec-rant/267363/22 "2020-09-17T10:16:48Z")
Except it harms lowsec much more than highsec. The real reason IMO is that CCP’s new generation doesn’t understand sandbox gameplay anymore. If players do something unexpected with a “brilliant“ idea it’s perceived as a threat or discouraging event. The result is more and more rules, restrictions, RNG elements, PvE oppression, and finally instanced gameplay to funnel the gameplay of players into predictable paths the devs can keep control. Essentially EvE is slowly transformed into a “normal” MMO, where the narrative is heavily dictated by the developers and complexity is instanced away. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-invasion-of-high-sec-rant/267363/23 "2020-09-17T10:36:40Z")
You can shoot EDENCOM npcs, but dont complain you are later exploded by a gunstar/can’t go thru some chokepoint to another high sec region. The most silly person I met was someone trying to equilibrate their standings in a fortress system, only to be immediately podkilled by NPCs when landing in an asteroid belt. ---
**Author:** ![Core\_Paradox](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/core_paradox/32/385675_2.png) [@Core\_Paradox](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Core_Paradox)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2020, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-invasion-of-high-sec-rant/267363/24 "2020-09-17T12:34:00Z")
i wish this was what i had penned in the first place! Well said. o7 ---
**Author:** ![xavier69](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xavier69/32/497798_2.png) [@xavier69](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xavier69)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-invasion-of-high-sec-rant/267363/25 "2020-09-19T17:21:40Z")
Honestly the people left at CCP have no idea WTF they are doing as of 2020. The original designers of this game have long moved on. The ones with even a little talent also fled in great numbers in the past few years and those that are left now are complete trash. They honestly are likely to glee at torment of the players stupid enough continue to pay for this game in 2020. They are similar to the hardcore player base here that glee at tormenting other players its kinda of a match made in hell they deserve each other. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-invasion-of-high-sec-rant/267363/26 "2020-09-19T17:39:46Z")
Why are you here, boy? ---
**Author:** ![Obed\_Marshh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/obed_marshh/32/459118_2.png) [@Obed\_Marshh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Obed_Marshh)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2020, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-invasion-of-high-sec-rant/267363/27 "2020-09-19T18:01:41Z")
> [@Tipa\_Riot](#): > > CCP’s new generation doesn’t understand sandbox gameplay anymore. > > Essentially EvE is slowly transformed into a “normal” MMO, where the narrative is heavily dictated by the developers and complexity is instanced away. Both of these conditions are unfortunate. ---
**Author:** ![Core\_Paradox](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/core_paradox/32/385675_2.png) [@Core\_Paradox](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Core_Paradox)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-invasion-of-high-sec-rant/267363/28 "2020-09-21T16:13:09Z")
Just done some simple mapping of high sec. Above level 2 agent missions run into trig space. Main trade routes compromised. where is this going? ---
**Author:** ![Core\_Paradox](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/core_paradox/32/385675_2.png) [@Core\_Paradox](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Core_Paradox)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-invasion-of-high-sec-rant/267363/29 "2020-09-21T16:14:23Z")
who are you? ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-invasion-of-high-sec-rant/267363/30 "2020-09-21T16:16:13Z")
Xeux. It says my name at the top of my message. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-invasion-of-high-sec-rant/267363/31 "2020-09-21T16:22:40Z")
Not _who_ are you, but who _are_ you. Sometimes, it feels like we don’t even know you anymore… ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-invasion-of-high-sec-rant/267363/32 "2020-09-21T16:32:15Z")
Now I feel like I am being ganged up on. ---
**Author:** ![ElleVa\_TeFairePeter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elleva_tefairepeter/32/230742_2.png) [@ElleVa\_TeFairePeter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ElleVa_TeFairePeter)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-invasion-of-high-sec-rant/267363/33 "2020-09-21T16:36:44Z")
CCP appears to just want Caldaris out of the game… They made the Trigs SO fcking powerful against them… Apparently, despite hard work from EDENCOM players, they had no chances to repel and keep the Trigs out from Calda systems… CCP ■■■■■■ Caldaris real hard, and now more and more players are leaving Lonetreck region or simply abandon EVE online. I was coming back after 4 years out, had some intentions of staying and though to buy some Omega time. But now I’m seeing the situation in Lonetrek degrading, I won’t put any money on this game, and even thinking of re-abandonning this doomed game. If CCP had some long term sight, they really should give some hope to hardcore Caldari players like me, or there’s going to be a big amount of players leaving this game. CCP have no knowledge of “community management/maintenance”… They’re killing the game gradually and at one point it’ll hit rock bottom and won’t be recoverable. SERIOUSLY, CCP Should not be screwing up players like they’re doing now… ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-invasion-of-high-sec-rant/267363/34 "2020-09-21T16:38:10Z")
I would not describe you as “hardcore.” ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-invasion-of-high-sec-rant/267363/35 "2020-09-21T16:43:46Z")
That right there is a perfect example of the carebear posts I like to parody so much, final emotional appeal in all-caps at the end and everything. It really _does_ follow a standard template… ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-invasion-of-high-sec-rant/267363/36 "2020-09-21T17:06:02Z")
So whot ? all four empire should have the same resistance, making impposible to triglavian to win a system ? You are such a carebear, good riddance ---
**Author:** ![Merkhad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merkhad/32/487995_2.png) [@Merkhad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merkhad)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-invasion-of-high-sec-rant/267363/37 "2020-09-21T17:07:52Z")
There are a few very valid points made so far in a few posts, and the most common denominator is that Triglav invasions are a real pain. Unwanted, unsolicited pain in the butt. I could develop for ever on how this game event is annoying, but I’ve got the feeling that it would be a pure waste of time and energy. I do not see anything that justifies disrupting low and high sec space, to a point where it’s becoming real hard to conduct any normal activity. Anywhere I’d like to go, anything I’m trying to do is hitting a Triglav invaded system where I know I’ll be podded in a matter of seconds. If keeping a safe space for people to play the way they want, each in their own manner and in their own space, is really so detrimental to CCP, then please just let us know. Cancelling subs is only a few clicks away. Just issue the message. Because personally I feel kind of unwanted in the game at the moment. And I suppose I’m not the only one feeling this way. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-invasion-of-high-sec-rant/267363/38 "2020-09-21T17:10:18Z")
> [@Merkhad](#): > > If keeping a safe space for people to play the way they want, each in their own manner and in their own space, is really so detrimental to CCP, then please just let us know. I guess you have never actually read anything theyve ever said directly about their own game. UUURRRGGGGHH you annoyed me so much I broke my promise not to post about the game as Alpha in GD. Well done. Everyone can blame you now. GAWD ---
**Author:** ![Merkhad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merkhad/32/487995_2.png) [@Merkhad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merkhad)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-invasion-of-high-sec-rant/267363/39 "2020-09-21T18:19:48Z")
You’re making so many assumptions in such a short sentence. That takes some skills and I respect that. I actually read game related stuff, announcements, dev blogs and such, but at the end of the day it doesn’t change the matter. You can wrap what CCP say in gold foil it won’t change any of the in-game issues some players are experiencing. I’m talking about fact. I’ll admit that my facts, very oriented indeed towards the sole purpose of my entertainment, can be seen as short-sighted and narrow-minded. But still: I’m playing this game for some reasons, and being imposed the Triglav invasions the way it has been implemented bothers me. End of story. And please don’t get me wrong: I’m more than happy to see a new faction coming in game. It proves that EvE still has a future and can take us for some more fun for the longer term. But the issue here is not the what, it’s about the how. And if you’ve been around for ten years or more, then you should know that it wouldn’t be the first time that the EvE team screws things up by implementing new features to the detriment of some players, and the benefits of others. Not that I want to elaborate on any of this anyway, but still I feel like I would voice my concerns. Jobs done. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-invasion-of-high-sec-rant/267363/40 "2020-09-21T18:23:20Z")
I have utterly no doubt that CCP are driving these so-called events towards a pre-determined end result that most people here will most certainly not like. But that result also _includes_ the creation of safe spaces where players may do as they please without threat of interference from players. (See: Various instanced dungeons) Hence the outburst. In short: they want to sweep away not the safe-spacers (thats just fall out from the explosion, they are pretty confident that anyone seeking that will not only be replaced, but will love the what-comes-next) but the rest of the gang outside of the gilded towers of Krabania. That High Sec will not be a place where you may do as you please as long as you watch your back. ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-invasion-of-high-sec-rant/267363/41 "2020-09-21T20:37:53Z")
and when incursion update goes live didn’t people said the same thing ? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-invasion-of-high-sec-rant/267363.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-invasion-of-high-sec-rant/267363.md?page=3)