# Triglavian mining vessel/ New alpha ship and mining bs **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 6, 2019, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-mining-vessel-new-alpha-ship-and-mining-bs/199539 "2019-11-06T10:50:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 2:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-mining-vessel-new-alpha-ship-and-mining-bs/199539/41 "2019-11-07T02:23:10Z")
> [@Marcus\_Gideon](#): > > I’m saying they should have retired the Rorqual and left the mining to the miners. Yeah, and I’m saying, “You’re very dumb if you think that’s what they should have done.” ---
**Author:** ![Marcus\_Gideon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marcus_gideon/32/141713_2.png) [@Marcus\_Gideon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marcus_Gideon)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 2:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-mining-vessel-new-alpha-ship-and-mining-bs/199539/42 "2019-11-07T02:32:43Z")
Name calling… ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 2:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-mining-vessel-new-alpha-ship-and-mining-bs/199539/43 "2019-11-07T02:39:52Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > > > there use to be fleets of Hulks mining in Asteroid Belts > > Good news is that you can still do this! 🙂 Guess I should have added ‘in High Sec’. 😒 ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 2:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-mining-vessel-new-alpha-ship-and-mining-bs/199539/44 "2019-11-07T02:53:34Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Guess I should have added ‘in High Sec’. Good news, you can **STILL** do this in Highsec! ---
**Author:** ![Theron\_Larkis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theron_larkis/32/170573_2.png) [@Theron\_Larkis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Theron_Larkis)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 4:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-mining-vessel-new-alpha-ship-and-mining-bs/199539/45 "2019-11-07T04:15:10Z")
> [@Orochimaru\_Angel](#): > > Or why not fill the gap between orca and exhumes. > A battleship type that kinda needed orca as support. A mining BS like a Rokh or Praxis has more mining yield than a venture while having similar cargo, If you use a Rokh in full yield fit, so with low cargo but that’s what the orca is for, you’ll _double_ a Venture’s mining output as an alpha. A medium level Procurer only mines 20% more compared to said Rokh, a max lvl procurer with T2 crystals mines about 50% more than said Rokh. Your ship already exists. ---
**Author:** ![Orochimaru\_Angel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orochimaru_angel/32/368310_2.png) [@Orochimaru\_Angel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orochimaru_Angel)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 4:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-mining-vessel-new-alpha-ship-and-mining-bs/199539/46 "2019-11-07T04:31:18Z")
i hade no idea…. wow yes it actually does. ---
**Author:** ![Roland\_Schlosser](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/roland_schlosser/32/392001_2.png) [@Roland\_Schlosser](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Roland_Schlosser)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 4:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-mining-vessel-new-alpha-ship-and-mining-bs/199539/47 "2019-11-07T04:43:57Z")
Fit 8 lasers to a Battleship. Tiny cargo requires orca support, better yield than a venture. ---
**Author:** ![Orochimaru\_Angel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orochimaru_angel/32/368310_2.png) [@Orochimaru\_Angel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orochimaru_Angel)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 4:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-mining-vessel-new-alpha-ship-and-mining-bs/199539/48 "2019-11-07T04:44:37Z")
Yes, thats actually what i was thinking( but had no idea) ty ---
**Author:** ![Theron\_Larkis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theron_larkis/32/170573_2.png) [@Theron\_Larkis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Theron_Larkis)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 4:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-mining-vessel-new-alpha-ship-and-mining-bs/199539/49 "2019-11-07T04:45:38Z")
This fits with Alpha skills: [Rokh, Rokh Max Mining] Mining Laser Upgrade II Mining Laser Upgrade II Mining Laser Upgrade II Co-Processor II Co-Processor II 100MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner Large F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender Large F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender Large F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I Survey Scanner II Miner II Miner II Miner II Miner II Miner II Miner II Miner II Miner II Large Cargohold Optimization I Large Cargohold Optimization I Large Cargohold Optimization I Hobgoblin I x5 Warrior I x5 ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-mining-vessel-new-alpha-ship-and-mining-bs/199539/50 "2019-11-07T14:02:24Z")
I think there should be triglavian transport/industrial/mining vessel of some kind. The Trigs would use it to transport, harvest, salvage, or service ships in space like mobile depot can. When it would be near, it would act like mobile depot. 🤔 Would maybe need a special module, that would change function from mining to salvaging to tractor beam with the type of crystal of sort. 🤔 One ship joining all the functions but never excelling in any. But sort of pioneer. 🤔 Could be named **Korgorus** (Damavik helper, for the host of the house, where they lived, they could have brought wealth and things stolen from other houses) Visualization: ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/8/a/8a46c25062df17c62081b875e3aec8a2289b271e.jpeg) V2 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/d/6/d6cf18627e252927467862511819713051ff5501.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-mining-vessel-new-alpha-ship-and-mining-bs/199539/51 "2019-11-07T14:05:17Z")
Wow. A+ for effort! ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2019, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-mining-vessel-new-alpha-ship-and-mining-bs/199539/52 "2019-11-07T14:06:51Z")
Very nice… I’d go even more on the asymmetrical nature of a triangle…err…wait. Are triangles symmetrical or not? Anyhow, I’m sure you know what I mean. ---
**Author:** ![Valiran\_Teleros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valiran_teleros/32/504787_2.png) [@Valiran\_Teleros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valiran_Teleros)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-mining-vessel-new-alpha-ship-and-mining-bs/199539/53 "2019-11-09T21:43:25Z")
> [@Marcus\_Gideon](#): > > But… WHY IS THERE A MINING CAPITAL??? Ah, just FYI: the Rorqual was added to the game August 28, 2007, whereas the Orca was added over a year later on November 11, 2008. It’s got me wondering why CCP felt the need to add the Orca in the first place. In light of how the Orca and Rorqual appear to fill the same role with the latter being better in nearly every way, I wonder if it might be worth considering making the Rorqual an actual capital _industrial_ ship instead of a super-Orca. There used to be a “Test Science Vessel” in the game files - you can find the description [here](https://eve-search.com/thread/439230-0/page/all#65) - so maybe Rorquals could be reworked as mobile bases that can repair, refit, and even do some small amounts of manufacturing while Orcas completely take over the role of mining command ship. …though now that I think about it, this probably isn’t a workable idea. Eh, I’ll let you guys decide. > [@Theron\_Larkis](#): > > A mining BS like a Rokh or Praxis has more mining yield than a venture while having similar cargo, If you use a Rokh in full yield fit, so with low cargo but that’s what the orca is for, you’ll _double_ a Venture’s mining output as an alpha. Wow, thanks for letting me know this! I’ll have to get my Praxis fitted out for mining in the Uni’s next shared can op! 😁 > [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > I think there should be triglavian transport/industrial/mining vessel of some kind. The Trigs would use it to transport, harvest, salvage, or service ships in space like mobile depot can. When it would be near, it would act like mobile depot. 🤔 > > Would maybe need a special module, that would change function from mining to salvaging to tractor beam with the type of crystal of sort. 🤔 > > One ship joining all the functions but never excelling in any. But sort of pioneer. 🤔 > > Could be named **Korgorus** (Damavik helper, for the host of the house, where they lived, they could have brought wealth and things stolen from other houses) > > Visualization: > > ![2GhPXW0.jpg](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/8/a/8a46c25062df17c62081b875e3aec8a2289b271e.jpeg) > > V2 > > ![OFh64Jk.jpg](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/d/6/d6cf18627e252927467862511819713051ff5501.jpeg) Wow, that sounds really interesting _and_ lore-compliant; with the hostile environment of Abyssal Deadspace it makes sense that the Triglavians would have a versatile industrial ship to acquire as many resources as possible. That concept art also looks pretty damn cool! ---
**Author:** ![Roland\_Schlosser](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/roland_schlosser/32/392001_2.png) [@Roland\_Schlosser](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Roland_Schlosser)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2019, 5:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-mining-vessel-new-alpha-ship-and-mining-bs/199539/54 "2019-11-10T05:16:07Z")
Rorqual was created to fill a need for compressing huge quantities of ore for transport from Null to HS markets, and offering mining boosts. For a long time you could only compress ore with a Rorq or a POS compression array. It was relatively weak, so you rarely saw it outside of a POS. Compression used to require BPOs same as any Indy job, but with CCP simplifying the game they were removed. There is no advantage to running Indy jobs in a ships as it would require the ship to be active in space and sieged. As soon as the Rorq desieged, the jobs were cancelled. Orca was created as a HS mining boost platform, and mini-freighter. ---
**Author:** ![General\_Grevious1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/general_grevious1/32/260469_2.png) [@General\_Grevious1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/General_Grevious1)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-mining-vessel-new-alpha-ship-and-mining-bs/199539/55 "2019-12-19T19:09:59Z")
you actually dont know the best fit for the rokh… ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2020, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-mining-vessel-new-alpha-ship-and-mining-bs/199539/56 "2020-03-18T19:24:07Z")
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