# Triglavian Victory! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** pve, low-sec, high-sec\ **Created:** [May 26, 2020, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178 "2020-05-26T15:07:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Goe\_Rilla](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/goe_rilla/32/360069_2.png) [@Goe\_Rilla](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Goe_Rilla)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/226 "2020-06-08T16:55:05Z")
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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/227 "2020-06-08T18:11:02Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > You came over to me as being bitter from the point you said my head was full of spaghetti and I was a troll, I merely told you that why you were not getting good fights when you were out-numbered in local. The way you wrote your initial replies made me interpret them as standard “griefer too afraid of real fights lols” posts that carebears make. Remember, the very first thing you did was call me ignorant, and not being able to choose my targets. I was still responding with my observations at that point, but starting to get on the defensive. Anyways, I think that we understand each other now, so there should no longer be an issue. > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Sounds like you are doing great, and creating content for a group of people, o7 on that. Not as great as before. Most of the old guard has left. Just a few friends remain, and not very active. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > I know what you wrote, so many hisec war deckers write similar posts, being surprised that even out-numbered the carebear does not engage. I just tried to explain why I don’t think any of us are “surprised” at _that_ specifically, aside from maybe the very new ones. If anything, the surprise comes from the fact that our targets act in this _very predictable_ manner, when there’s so much documentation out there with regard to how to not be affected by our presence and actions. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > > > Unfortunately, these days such gameplay is almost impossible to pull off. Ironically, in their drive to “improve” high-sec conflict mechanics, CCP created a system in which the only viable activity **is** to be just another high-sec merc who farms kills all day. So that’s what I’ll be doing now on, I guess. > > Have you thought about opposing other mercs for fights? If I am _paid to_, yes. There are two distinct versions of hostilities: for profit (which can also be entertaining), and purely for entertainment (or to raise up your killboard stats). Going up against hard targets like myself wouldn’t be very entertaining, if at all. It would be downright exhausting, actually. Plus, losses would be guaranteed, so the entire endeavor would result in painful hits to the wallet. You _can’t_ minimize costs at the high end of the PvP spectrum. Can’t just tell your guys “okay, reship into ■■■■-fit 'Canes, we’re gonna go hit P I R A T!” That’s going to lead to nowhere real fast. You have to plan _considerably_, and then bring hardware that can actually get the job done and survive. On the bright side, no one picks wars with you for the same reason - they know that you know how they operate, and will not make it easy for them. _Unless there’s money involved._ Once someone starts paying you, the rules change. This, by the way, is the best defense a corporation can have against wars. Show that you have teeth and claws, and others won’t poke you. They very rarely listen, though. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2020, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/228 "2020-06-08T18:18:48Z")
> [@Tyler\_Rina](#): > > I’m sure everyone can agree on that one Do not ever use this type of phrasing. It makes you look like an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/229 "2020-06-09T06:28:19Z")
We understand each other, just so you know I have two characters in an alliance that fights war deckers. > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Can’t just tell your guys “okay, reship into ■■■■-fit 'Canes, we’re gonna go hit P I R A T!” Some of my alliance mates when I was de-subbed joined in on a war against PIRAT and did the massed Tornado thing on bling fitted PIRAT ships after the resistance nerf and wrecked them. I was not in favour of this resistance nerf but when I realised that it made such fights less one sided I changed my mind. Because the more that people can feel that they can fight back the more they will do it. PIRAT obviously realised that their bling boats were no longer good enough. ---
**Author:** ![Tyler\_Rina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tyler_rina/32/281425_2.png) [@Tyler\_Rina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tyler_Rina)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/230 "2020-06-09T20:45:16Z")
> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#): > > Do not ever use this type of phrasing. It makes you look like an idiot. Ouch. Apparently trig ships _don’t_ look cool… ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/231 "2020-06-09T20:46:40Z")
That’s not what he said. What you said was we could all agree. That’s fightin talk around here. ---
**Author:** ![Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkikaden_tiragen/32/243913_2.png) [@Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mkikaden_Tiragen)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/232 "2020-06-09T20:48:52Z")
The issue is more with the patronizing tone it instantly confers: ‘I feel this way, therefore you all feel this way, and if you don’t it doesn’t matter anyway’. It’s an illogical phrase from a rhetoric standpoint because people rarely all agree on anything, and has a history of being used by people who cannot be bothered to actually apply logic to their arguments. Nicolai’s approach is hardly polite, but the sentiment is accurate. ---
**Author:** ![Tyler\_Rina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tyler_rina/32/281425_2.png) [@Tyler\_Rina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tyler_Rina)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/233 "2020-06-09T20:49:06Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > That’s not what he said. > > What you said was we could all agree. > > That’s fightin talk around here. So the rumors are true… there is no such thing as unison in EVE. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/234 "2020-06-09T20:49:39Z")
There are no Unions of any kind that Im aware of. Except the Caldari Union, obvs ---
**Author:** ![Tyler\_Rina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tyler_rina/32/281425_2.png) [@Tyler\_Rina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tyler_Rina)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/235 "2020-06-09T20:50:04Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Except the Caldari Union, obvs The Caldari hate eachother ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/236 "2020-06-09T20:50:33Z")
Sounds like Gallante rabble rousing there. ---
**Author:** ![Tyler\_Rina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tyler_rina/32/281425_2.png) [@Tyler\_Rina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tyler_Rina)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/237 "2020-06-09T20:50:48Z")
I’m Ammarian ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/238 "2020-06-09T20:51:06Z")
I can see that from here. ---
**Author:** ![Tyler\_Rina](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tyler_rina/32/281425_2.png) [@Tyler\_Rina](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tyler_Rina)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/240 "2020-06-09T21:21:09Z")
> [@Mkikaden\_Tiragen](#): > > The issue is more with the patronizing tone it instantly confers: ‘I feel this way, therefore you all feel this way, and if you don’t it doesn’t matter anyway’. It’s an illogical phrase from a rhetoric standpoint because people rarely all agree on anything, and has a history of being used by people who cannot be bothered to actually apply logic to their arguments. > > Nicolai’s approach is hardly polite, but the sentiment is accurate. I am going to say, I did not mean for it to feel like I was saying “ I’m the only right one” I just thought most people liked the trigs’ designs. Thanks for pointing it out! ---
**Author:** ![Infection](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/infection/32/173071_2.png) [@Infection](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Infection)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2020, 6:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/241 "2020-06-15T06:40:28Z")
I mean if your so scarred of concord or pissed that they kill you then quit giving a reason for them to kill you. Why dont yall gankers just make big fleets and go kill concord ships? I mean that sounds like a cool challenge but would be to much work I guess for those who gank in high sec. I mean that would be a rush to grab a big fleet and screw up high sec, and then have to worry how your going to survive through it. Since they would be able to field capital ships and you can’t. - Would be an interesting but bloody challenge. ^ Would be good times. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2020, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/242 "2020-06-15T06:53:37Z")
You can’t destroy CONCORD, broski. A long, _long_ time ago you could, but that was patched out in early 2004 I believe. And NPCs are “infinite” anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2020, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/243 "2020-06-15T08:52:38Z")
> [@Infection](#): > > Why dont yall gankers just make big fleets and go kill concord ships? I mean that sounds like a cool challenge but would be to much work I guess for those who gank in high sec. They made any attempt to tank CONCORD a sanctionable offense. ---
**Author:** ![Manweru\_Cemenotar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/manweru_cemenotar/32/230368_2.png) [@Manweru\_Cemenotar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Manweru_Cemenotar)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2020, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/244 "2020-06-15T09:24:40Z")
Concord used to use legit ships with legit guns and sustain and so on, untill a bunch of guys decided to give them out a battle and thing went kind of out of hand. After that mess ccp patched concord out to have instakill guns and placed rules that trying to evade being killed by concord a sanctionable offence. So in short: they did exactly what you tell them to do, except CCP didn’t like it and adjusted concord mechanic to prevent that from happening ever again. ---
**Author:** ![Plan\_Neun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/plan_neun/32/243246_2.png) [@Plan\_Neun](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Plan_Neun)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2020, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/245 "2020-09-03T22:35:03Z")
And with the result, CCP and Eve-online will have even fewer gamers active, people will only pay for subs to train. That will be the true result for all of us that have a life and limited game time. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2020, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/246 "2020-09-03T22:52:00Z")
> [@Plan\_Neun](#): > > That will be the true result for all of us that have a life and limited game time. If you have such limited game time I have no idea why you would want to spend it farming the same menial task over and over and over again. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178.md?page=11) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178.md?page=13)