# Triglavian Victory!

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Tags:** pve, low-sec, high-sec\
**Created:** [May 26, 2020, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178 "2020-05-26T15:07:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 5:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/84 "2020-05-29T05:08:47Z")

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I agree 100% with @Zhalyd_Lyehin

Faction Warfare players can’t dock in enemy Faction stations so that same game mechanic should apply to players who assist Triglavians in gaining control of high sec systems.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 5:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/85 "2020-05-29T05:27:07Z")

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If Trigs let us install clones in their Titan, we won’t need stations anymore.

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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 6:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/86 "2020-05-29T06:10:36Z")

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So how does this work and will it be permanent?

Go Trigs!

> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> Faction Warfare players can’t dock in enemy Faction stations so that same game mechanic should apply to players who assist Triglavians in gaining control of high sec systems.

Oh look the carebears are already crying for mechanics in their favor 😂

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/87 "2020-05-29T06:28:15Z")

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> [@Karak\_Terrel](#):
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> > [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> > Faction Warfare players can’t dock in enemy Faction stations so that same game mechanic should apply to players who assist Triglavians in gaining control of high sec systems.
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> Oh look the carebears are already crying for mechanics in their favor 😂

Learn to read.

Trying to portray others as having the same whiny emotions that you have just makes you a fail troll.

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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/88 "2020-05-29T06:33:25Z")

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Sure, I probably just missed the part where you advocated similar restriction for the team you favor. I’m so sorry…

Don’t let that discourage you, keep crying, it’s hilarious 😂

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 6:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/89 "2020-05-29T06:43:33Z")

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Gawd you people are pathetic, constantly seeing things that aren’t even there.

Personally I don’t care if they win or lose. However I will definitely point out unbalanced game mechanics where ever I see them. Obviously you don’t want that to happen which explains why you’re whining about it.

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 6:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/90 "2020-05-29T06:48:08Z")

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> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> I will definitely point out unbalanced game mechanics where ever I see them.

…which are…?

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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/91 "2020-05-29T06:50:47Z")

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Basically if it’s DMC vs. some random other player in whatever setting, CCP needs to implement a game mechanic in DMCs favor for it to be balanced.

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**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/93 "2020-05-29T10:44:12Z")

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🔴 Similar restrictions? You mean true loss of the systems isn’t a restriction already? Or the interruption of travel routes? 🤦‍♂️

As for the crying: the attackers are crying out that losing docking access would be unfair but want to keep slaughtering the people allowing them to dock.

Truely remarkable capsuleer logic.

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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/94 "2020-05-29T11:47:21Z")

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This is a game.

You play on one of two teams to achieve a goal and so far both sides have an equal playing field. But because you don’t like what would happen if the other team wins you already ask for changes to game mechanics in your teams favor and try to cover it into some lore BS.

Pretty pathetic. Also no surprise, it’s how the carebear crowd approaches every challenge, by crying a lot for favors.

Now cry some more, it’s highly amusing. 😂

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/95 "2020-05-29T11:52:03Z")

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> [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](#):
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> 🔴 Similar restrictions?

In this thread the appropriate red dot is the 🔻

😉

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**Author:** ![Victor\_Medvil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/victor_medvil/32/374328_2.png) [@Victor\_Medvil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Victor_Medvil)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/96 "2020-05-29T13:45:26Z")

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The Triglavians finally have a liminality system, we are taking that system as our own, it is no longer high sec but rather Low Sec, we have driven the Concord and Edencom out of our system. Triglavian Power! The Triglavians will take more systems away from the carebear Edencom and Concord.

 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/d/ad7c37815ccbf8556fdbb045b2a8747b0e5c5584.png)

Read more at Link = [Raravoss Falls Thread](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/raravoss-falls-security-reduced-from-0-6-to-0-3/244950)

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**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/97 "2020-05-29T14:36:12Z")

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🔴 This game already has exactly what I’m asking for in FW. There are no changes needed, merely the application of existing mechanics. It’s not me whose crying; all the people yearning for easy claps are vehemently opposed to consequences and risk to their easy pve farming.

Your lack of us understanding basic things is very hilarous, through. High entertainment value. Calling “I take a system from you empire, keep murdering you and still dock in your stations” a level playing field is on another level of hilarity.

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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/98 "2020-05-29T14:43:52Z")

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So salty. But this isn’t FW. It’s an event. If you want to keep the systems go defend them.

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**Author:** ![Syn\_Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syn_shi/32/242535_2.png) [@Syn\_Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syn_Shi)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/99 "2020-05-29T14:52:43Z")

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Its not an event…sighs.

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**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/101 "2020-05-29T15:06:40Z")

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> [@Victor\_Medvil](#):
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> Down with Concord! What do you think about this?

I think you need some sleep.

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**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/102 "2020-05-29T17:44:05Z")

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🔴 this is not an event. This is a permanent thing. Lack of understanding.™

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/103 "2020-05-29T19:15:44Z")

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Crying about docking rights is pointless when everyone can simply use alts to shop and move stuff.

But let’s face it, docking rights are just a stepping stone argument on the path to an end game in which players you disagree with are secluded into their own section of the game, and unable to affect your mindless carebear farming in any way.

Today you’re arguing against docking rights, and when other players push back, you’ll say “but it’s just a very minor matter of convenience! Those players won’t be affected that much!”

Then tomorrow you’ll argue against being able to trade with certain players, and the day after that you’ll demand criminal flags for anyone who launches a ship or a can for one of the “griefers” in space. This is the carebear modus operandi; nothing is ever going to be enough, unless it’s the _entire thing_. This is how it’s been in the entire history of these forums, and in fact, the forums of any other game with a nonconsensual PvP element. You’re not fooling anyone at this point.

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**Author:** ![Tintallei\_Sharan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tintallei_sharan/32/373000_2.png) [@Tintallei\_Sharan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tintallei_Sharan)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/104 "2020-05-29T19:48:34Z")

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> [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](#):
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> That could not but further from the truth. There are so many structures around that people can use instead of stations. This would even give structures a reason to exist and people a reason to defend them and keep them running out to attack them since they would be important points for retreat or staging for people.

To be fair: This is actually an interesting answer and a good argument. That could lead to something interesting.

On the other hand, this also comes with some problems that are just as hard to explain lorewise than why we don’t loose standing currently.

For instance, that would literally mean that this structures are outpost of a force officially declared as ennemies of the big four, inside their territories. I guess we could dock on structures from players who are not openly pro-Trigs, but that would just make those players traitors.

On top of that, in terms of gameplay, that’s quite a big change for High-sec, bigger than what currently happen, since High-sec is all about NPC control and relative safety from PvP, and this would turn it into a full time battlefield between players wanting to be the ones controlling the local stations.

At the end of the day you turn it from “this is illogical because they are okay with some capsuleers shooting them” to “now they allow ennemies outposts inside their borders”, which is not much better.

The idea need some work, but, thanks for your answer, that was an interesting idea to consider.

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**Author:** ![Nankeen\_Heron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nankeen_heron/32/288904_2.png) [@Nankeen\_Heron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nankeen_Heron)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavian-victory/244178/105 "2020-05-29T21:31:58Z")

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Will the Triglavians stop spam in Jita local?

#stuffthatmatters

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