# Triglavians and Invasions...Stops the Bots, but spoils the game!

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavians-and-invasions-stops-the-bots-but-spoils-the-game/223338>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [March 2, 2020, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavians-and-invasions-stops-the-bots-but-spoils-the-game/223338 "2020-03-02T17:53:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ugren\_Okaski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ugren_okaski/32/181459_2.png) [@Ugren\_Okaski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ugren_Okaski)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavians-and-invasions-stops-the-bots-but-spoils-the-game/223338/81 "2020-03-02T21:33:07Z")

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> [@Paddehatten](#):
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> New players don’t know

Then they will quickly learn it with minimal losses. And if they are unwilling to learn, they won’t fare good in the game either.

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavians-and-invasions-stops-the-bots-but-spoils-the-game/223338/82 "2020-03-02T21:36:41Z")

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> [@Paddehatten](#):
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> New players don’t know and it makes many of them quit.

Do you have a source or citation for this claim?  
I don’t know many new players who’ve quit the game because they were killed by Triglavians while trying to do PI. In fact, I don’t know many new players who immediately hop into the game, start doing PI, and manage to start setting up PI networks on planets.

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**Author:** ![Paddehatten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/paddehatten/32/378579_2.png) [@Paddehatten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Paddehatten)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavians-and-invasions-stops-the-bots-but-spoils-the-game/223338/83 "2020-03-02T21:39:27Z")

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Everyone in my Corp quit the game I’m the only one left and most of them are my RL friends so yes I know.  
And some of them where even new players they just got fed up with crap like this.

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**Author:** ![Ugren\_Okaski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ugren_okaski/32/181459_2.png) [@Ugren\_Okaski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ugren_Okaski)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavians-and-invasions-stops-the-bots-but-spoils-the-game/223338/84 "2020-03-02T21:40:11Z")

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> [@Paddehatten](#):
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> Everyone in my Corp quit the game

Are you sure they quit the game and not just your corp, because it did not meet their expectations?

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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavians-and-invasions-stops-the-bots-but-spoils-the-game/223338/85 "2020-03-02T21:40:57Z")

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> [@Paddehatten](#):
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> Everyone in my Corp quit the game I’m the only one left and most of them are my RL friends so yes I know

They quit because they could not handle highsec PvE? This is a new special whine

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**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavians-and-invasions-stops-the-bots-but-spoils-the-game/223338/86 "2020-03-02T22:17:17Z")

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> [@Paddehatten](#):
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> And some of them where even new players they just got fed up with crap like this.

So why are you not teaching them how to tank their ship well, how to predict if there will be Trigs, how to deep scan and how to watch their overview.

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**Author:** ![Paddehatten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/paddehatten/32/378579_2.png) [@Paddehatten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Paddehatten)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 10:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavians-and-invasions-stops-the-bots-but-spoils-the-game/223338/87 "2020-03-02T22:47:34Z")

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I did but I shouldn’t have to that’s CCPs job.

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**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavians-and-invasions-stops-the-bots-but-spoils-the-game/223338/88 "2020-03-02T22:58:49Z")

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Uh… how?  
When it is it ever the game developers responsibility to spend time showing players how to make best use of all the systems…  
That’s just crazy.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavians-and-invasions-stops-the-bots-but-spoils-the-game/223338/89 "2020-03-02T23:01:39Z")

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My heart hurts reading this

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**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavians-and-invasions-stops-the-bots-but-spoils-the-game/223338/90 "2020-03-02T23:48:37Z")

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PvE is apparently now mandatory. Even the bitter vets think so 🤪

We’ve come a long from “remove all npcs”.

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**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 12:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavians-and-invasions-stops-the-bots-but-spoils-the-game/223338/91 "2020-03-03T00:22:54Z")

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![joker](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/7/5/75f6e8fb6ca156b67847d94ba50a06ad95982274.gif)

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**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavians-and-invasions-stops-the-bots-but-spoils-the-game/223338/92 "2020-03-03T00:55:35Z")

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Triglavians should drop juicy bounties when they die, help make killing them juicier 🙂

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**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavians-and-invasions-stops-the-bots-but-spoils-the-game/223338/93 "2020-03-03T00:55:55Z")

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> [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#):
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> PvE is apparently now mandatory. Even the bitter vets think so 🤪
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> We’ve come a long from “remove all npcs”.

PVE is fun tho

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**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 1:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavians-and-invasions-stops-the-bots-but-spoils-the-game/223338/94 "2020-03-03T01:03:54Z")

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They are sleeper type Npcs. They drop juicy loot instead.

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**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 1:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavians-and-invasions-stops-the-bots-but-spoils-the-game/223338/95 "2020-03-03T01:04:01Z")

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Didn’t they nerf Emerging Conduits, which is why no one is doing them, which is why they [Trigs] are killing miners? 🤪

Answer: _What is Finger Guillotine?_

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**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 1:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavians-and-invasions-stops-the-bots-but-spoils-the-game/223338/96 "2020-03-03T01:04:40Z")

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> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#):
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> They are sleeper type Npcs. They drop juicy loot instead.

Why not drop loot and bounty?

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**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavians-and-invasions-stops-the-bots-but-spoils-the-game/223338/97 "2020-03-03T01:07:47Z")

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> [@Sabus\_Narian](#):
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> Why not drop loot and bounty?

Because that would be too good.  
I mean, seriously, do you actually have a clue about balance here. Why not have them drop a titan token so you get a free titan per site.

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**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 1:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavians-and-invasions-stops-the-bots-but-spoils-the-game/223338/98 "2020-03-03T01:17:36Z")

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> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#):
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> Because that would be too good.  
> I mean, seriously, do you actually have a clue about balance here. Why not have them drop a titan token so you get a free titan per site.

No use in getting a free titan token if you can’t use it in highsec

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**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 3:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavians-and-invasions-stops-the-bots-but-spoils-the-game/223338/99 "2020-03-03T03:25:52Z")

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> [@Sabus\_Narian](#):
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> No use in getting a free titan token if you can’t use it in highsec

You do understand that highsec is not the entire game, right? And that many people play EVE without your self-imposed restrictions?

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Raptor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peter_raptor/32/247341_2.png) [@Peter\_Raptor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peter_Raptor)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2020, 6:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/triglavians-and-invasions-stops-the-bots-but-spoils-the-game/223338/100 "2020-03-03T06:18:59Z")

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It’s what stopped me playing Eve, I’ve discovered it’s actually fun in the real world.

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