# Trying to work out actual North in New Eden **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 19, 2020, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/trying-to-work-out-actual-north-in-new-eden/274680 "2020-10-19T19:10:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/trying-to-work-out-actual-north-in-new-eden/274680/21 "2020-10-21T08:52:42Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Where is the suggestion box? ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/5/8/58a01f97ba6be6305da0c9875196e503f8f1e09e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/trying-to-work-out-actual-north-in-new-eden/274680/22 "2020-10-21T09:21:52Z")
Isnt Oop Nyorth where @Jonah_Gravenstein comes from? ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/trying-to-work-out-actual-north-in-new-eden/274680/23 "2020-10-21T13:46:04Z")
For an easy flat map representation of the regions, you could use the maps provided at the bottom of the Monthly Economic Reports. ---
**Author:** ![Evei\_Shard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/evei_shard/32/245990_2.png) [@Evei\_Shard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Evei_Shard)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/trying-to-work-out-actual-north-in-new-eden/274680/24 "2020-10-21T14:56:35Z")
![eveCompass](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/2/2/220cc255704040bbe5648d45e0ea5bf08ec6a26c.png) is that not what this little arrow indicates? (edit: to be clear, the same exists on the star map in the lower left corner) ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/trying-to-work-out-actual-north-in-new-eden/274680/25 "2020-10-21T15:38:36Z")
Nah I’m from down south, any further south and I’ll need a boat. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/trying-to-work-out-actual-north-in-new-eden/274680/26 "2020-10-21T16:09:40Z")
omg peeps just use the old AKA good map ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/trying-to-work-out-actual-north-in-new-eden/274680/27 "2020-10-21T16:33:22Z")
Huh. Wonder where I got that idea from ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/trying-to-work-out-actual-north-in-new-eden/274680/28 "2020-10-21T17:47:19Z")
No idea, @Mortlake is more of a northerner than I am, and he’s in bloody South Wales, while I’m down in scrumpy country. You’re all grockles 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2020, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/trying-to-work-out-actual-north-in-new-eden/274680/29 "2020-10-21T19:29:03Z")
Looks like a star in the background, never noticed that before. I want grids on the map, we can all make use of grids. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/trying-to-work-out-actual-north-in-new-eden/274680/30 "2020-10-22T00:12:08Z")
never took notice of that little arrow, with camera tracking always on. Thx for sharing that one, going to check it out. ---
**Author:** ![J\_Poll](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/j_poll/32/228940_2.png) [@J\_Poll](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/J_Poll)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/trying-to-work-out-actual-north-in-new-eden/274680/31 "2020-10-22T12:14:24Z")
But now let’s make it even more difficult…and let’s put the whole universe in to it’s actual 3D form… What is north now ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/trying-to-work-out-actual-north-in-new-eden/274680/32 "2020-10-22T13:12:04Z")
The proper answer would be “where we agree to put it”. But I refuse to have that debate before they give Pluto its proper status as 9th planet back 😛 In absence of a well-defined reference point, let’s stick with “It’s at the Restaurant at the End of the Universe”. ---
**Author:** ![J\_Poll](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/j_poll/32/228940_2.png) [@J\_Poll](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/J_Poll)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/trying-to-work-out-actual-north-in-new-eden/274680/33 "2020-10-22T13:55:32Z")
Deep Thought agrees ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2020, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/trying-to-work-out-actual-north-in-new-eden/274680/34 "2020-10-22T17:58:31Z")
New Eden needs a magnetic north. / > [@Marcus\_Virt](#): > > Another reason why the old map is better, it can be flattened into 2D and put the right side up. Adding that the old map looks plain and dull. ---
**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/trying-to-work-out-actual-north-in-new-eden/274680/35 "2020-10-26T10:38:02Z")
True. I’m practically an Eskimortlake. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/trying-to-work-out-actual-north-in-new-eden/274680/36 "2020-10-26T10:57:09Z")
There’s a compass on the HUD. With the help of the green navigational lines … … and a bit of travelling … … you should be easily able to determine where the “cluster-wide” North is. … … assuming that said compass actually uses global coordinates. Personally I find the idea of a compass _in space_ rather silly. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/trying-to-work-out-actual-north-in-new-eden/274680/37 "2020-10-26T17:45:41Z")
What is pulling the compass on the HUD North? Where is that in relation to the Wormhole that brought us all here before it closed. Is North truly where that Compass takes us? ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/trying-to-work-out-actual-north-in-new-eden/274680/38 "2020-10-26T19:33:49Z")
Great questions! ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2020, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/trying-to-work-out-actual-north-in-new-eden/274680/39 "2020-10-27T13:57:06Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > What is pulling the compass on the HUD North? Suction. Or quantum entanglement. Or a space hamster pulling silky strands tied to the compass. But if you don’t like the current north, I suggest you use the F9 map instead. That one - how could it be any different when you start digging into EvE stuff - has north to the … south, Yep, they flipped the solar system chart upside down because … reasons/trolling/blonde moments ? So if you want to align your F9 map with the rest of the client’s North indication (compass on HUD, F11, F10, tactical overlay), turn it 180°, and learn to read the tactical overlay upside down too on that map. In other words, ccplease. At least they didn’t make it a mirror image. > [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Where is that in relation to the Wormhole that brought us all here before it closed. to its North (using the same reference frame with North at infinity) > [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Is North truly where that Compass takes us? No, it would take us to Hamster Central, the heart of the Matrix. Are you The One ? ![dywtn](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/2/1/21117b9e75240cba71c7f68ac40af8de6734d95c.gif) ---
**Author:** ![DragoFire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragofire/32/257926_2.png) [@DragoFire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DragoFire)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/trying-to-work-out-actual-north-in-new-eden/274680/40 "2021-01-16T18:57:04Z")
When you open the map it’s defaulted to normal, so if you don’t rotate map you’ll find north up. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/trying-to-work-out-actual-north-in-new-eden/274680.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/trying-to-work-out-actual-north-in-new-eden/274680.md?page=3)