# Turning a hs gankers loss from pure pve to a pvp loss **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [April 24, 2026, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/turning-a-hs-gankers-loss-from-pure-pve-to-a-pvp-loss/510454 "2026-04-24T16:03:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Prime\_Admiral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/prime_admiral/32/476562_2.png) [@Prime\_Admiral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Prime_Admiral)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/turning-a-hs-gankers-loss-from-pure-pve-to-a-pvp-loss/510454/21 "2026-05-05T11:37:36Z")
> [@Asgidur\_Hurtini](#): > > They want only the green. They doing it for their egos and to hide their kill “trading” between alts. I don’t connect my API because there are many Discords (you can check the trade Discords) that use Intel Channels connected to ZK and ping whenever they see activity on my accounts, There is no grand conspiracy here 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Salartarium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salartarium/32/468818_2.png) [@Salartarium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salartarium)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2026, 2:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/turning-a-hs-gankers-loss-from-pure-pve-to-a-pvp-loss/510454/22 "2026-05-11T02:25:11Z")
> [@The\_Tapioca\_Terrorist](#): > > make of this post as you will. Best way to turn a loss into a win, is to make content about it https://www.tiktok.com/embed/v2/7633562349139528980 ---
**Author:** ![Honoka\_Kawai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/honoka_kawai/32/498595_2.png) [@Honoka\_Kawai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Honoka_Kawai)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2026, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/turning-a-hs-gankers-loss-from-pure-pve-to-a-pvp-loss/510454/23 "2026-05-11T11:29:52Z")
Nope, you just look at it from the side of the victim who want to see that attacker was punished by CONCORD… loss to CONCORD is the same as self destruction, who cares? Zkb would not count it as this is a PVE activity where no one except CONCORD was involved so useless kill mail. Take a gun if you care about numbers on zkb and not about your ability to get from A to B. ---
**Author:** ![Asgidur\_Hurtini](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/asgidur_hurtini/32/494282_2.png) [@Asgidur\_Hurtini](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Asgidur_Hurtini)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2026, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/turning-a-hs-gankers-loss-from-pure-pve-to-a-pvp-loss/510454/24 "2026-05-11T11:52:31Z")
Nop, manually uploading a KM is way too much effort for “not caring”. Btw, if you spend more time here than on Reddit, you would know I’m immune to offenses. Try harder. Damn proxies, but hey another chance to say Reddit is a latrine. Opsie, more proxies incoming… ---
**Author:** ![Honoka\_Kawai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/honoka_kawai/32/498595_2.png) [@Honoka\_Kawai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Honoka_Kawai)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2026, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/turning-a-hs-gankers-loss-from-pure-pve-to-a-pvp-loss/510454/25 "2026-05-11T12:09:18Z")
Why should I care about Reddit? Looks like a trash network. ---
**Author:** ![Christine\_Creed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/christine_creed/32/510186_2.png) [@Christine\_Creed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Christine_Creed)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2026, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/turning-a-hs-gankers-loss-from-pure-pve-to-a-pvp-loss/510454/26 "2026-05-11T12:11:55Z")
> [@Honoka\_Kawai](#): > > Looks like a trash network. On the most part, it is. However there is great deal of EVE info there thats helpful…and like other mostly slightly toxic places…you have to file through them for the legit stuff. I use reddit very sparsely…just a few games i post about there. All the other riff raff can stay exactly where it deserves to stay. ---
**Author:** ![Honoka\_Kawai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/honoka_kawai/32/498595_2.png) [@Honoka\_Kawai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Honoka_Kawai)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2026, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/turning-a-hs-gankers-loss-from-pure-pve-to-a-pvp-loss/510454/27 "2026-05-11T12:31:04Z")
So much effort to get a kill mail which was done by CONCORD? You was recording everything sitting in the Capsule (or clone bay)… so likely enough to lock and spit with anything you have and get ■■■■ amount of points for job which was done by CONCORD. Do as others, take a frigate and wait for gankers to get your zkb green if this makes you happy. ---
**Author:** ![Asgidur\_Hurtini](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/asgidur_hurtini/32/494282_2.png) [@Asgidur\_Hurtini](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Asgidur_Hurtini)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2026, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/turning-a-hs-gankers-loss-from-pure-pve-to-a-pvp-loss/510454/28 "2026-05-11T12:48:03Z")
At this point you lost me, I dunno what you talking about really. You accusing me of something, but I cannot understand what is it. Do you realize I lost ONE ORE destroyer right? I have zero reasons to care about what Safety is doing… Maybe you confused me with somebody else? I only speak objectively, I cannot care less about ZKB, but I speak my mind as I see it. The behavioral analysis is there, while you are free to disagree I missed the point why I’m the target of your refutation. I’m just a bystander giving my opinion. Not all opinions are subjective, you don’t need to project everything on me to be able to refute something. At least check my ZKB first. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tapioca\_Terrorist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_tapioca_terrorist/32/493091_2.png) [@The\_Tapioca\_Terrorist](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Tapioca_Terrorist)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2026, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/turning-a-hs-gankers-loss-from-pure-pve-to-a-pvp-loss/510454/29 "2026-06-07T10:34:05Z")
> [@Honoka\_Kawai](#): > > loss to CONCORD is the same as self destruction, who cares? who cares?? the gankers do… I see them run in local from one lil ship.. hell even L.E.G.I.O.N has kill mail stopped from posting.. they manually post to avoid ship losses. seems like the multiboxer has gone as far as to have a smart bombing cruiser to get the kills so no one gets any if at all. thats one seriously butt hurt multiboxer ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2026, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/turning-a-hs-gankers-loss-from-pure-pve-to-a-pvp-loss/510454/30 "2026-06-07T11:10:38Z")
> [@The\_Tapioca\_Terrorist](#): > > hey manually post to avoid ship losses. Man. Stop talking nonsense. They _don’t care for killboard losses_. They don’t auto-feed zkill because that offers a good chance to hide their activities as long as the victim doesn’t post the loss. It’s an INTEL / OPSEC issue, not because they are afraid that anyone could see some lost Catalysts. But that has already been explained. By people with _much_ more experience than you have. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tapioca\_Terrorist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_tapioca_terrorist/32/493091_2.png) [@The\_Tapioca\_Terrorist](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Tapioca_Terrorist)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2026, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/turning-a-hs-gankers-loss-from-pure-pve-to-a-pvp-loss/510454/31 "2026-06-07T11:47:13Z")
actions speak louder than words sunshine!!! stop grasping at straws ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tapioca\_Terrorist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_tapioca_terrorist/32/493091_2.png) [@The\_Tapioca\_Terrorist](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Tapioca_Terrorist)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2026, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/turning-a-hs-gankers-loss-from-pure-pve-to-a-pvp-loss/510454/32 "2026-06-07T11:49:23Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > not because they are afraid that anyone could see some lost Catalysts. ok after doing a quick search… Catalysts huh?? what a dumbass [Related Kills | Hykkota | 2025-11-22 12:00 | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/related/30000134/202511221200/) ---
**Author:** ![Admiral\_Mason](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/admiral_mason/32/480330_2.png) [@Admiral\_Mason](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Admiral_Mason)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2026, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/turning-a-hs-gankers-loss-from-pure-pve-to-a-pvp-loss/510454/33 "2026-06-07T21:59:46Z")
I smartbomb to kill pods I miss you in Uedama, come back ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tapioca\_Terrorist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_tapioca_terrorist/32/493091_2.png) [@The\_Tapioca\_Terrorist](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Tapioca_Terrorist)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2026, 1:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/turning-a-hs-gankers-loss-from-pure-pve-to-a-pvp-loss/510454/34 "2026-06-08T01:36:56Z")
> [@Admiral\_Mason](#): > > I smartbomb to kill pods sure you do lol ---
**Author:** ![Honoka\_Kawai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/honoka_kawai/32/498595_2.png) [@Honoka\_Kawai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Honoka_Kawai)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2026, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/turning-a-hs-gankers-loss-from-pure-pve-to-a-pvp-loss/510454/35 "2026-07-13T10:08:21Z")
This is good that he stopped posting PvE losses as they means nothing… just noise. For example: [Beaver Swarm | Corporation | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98447030/) is posting PvE losses which looks weird as I hate to see peoples PvE activity… but it helps to find a nice fit and adjust for my own needs. Anyway, posting PvE losses is sick and it would be more interesting to scan ships of hunters or try to lock them to get an actual fit from a dumb killmail. BTW, if you look at my recent kills on zKillboard, you’ll see they’re mostly Legion capsules. I consider those a waste of ammo and time because he simply doesn’t care. It would be the same as farming easy killmails from people who are about to be CONCORDed anyway - there’s no challenge or value in it for me. If that’s your thing, though, go ahead and farm the easiest killmails you can. Maybe you’ll even become the hero of high-sec if it somehow stops ganking. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tapioca\_Terrorist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_tapioca_terrorist/32/493091_2.png) [@The\_Tapioca\_Terrorist](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Tapioca_Terrorist)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2026, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/turning-a-hs-gankers-loss-from-pure-pve-to-a-pvp-loss/510454/36 "2026-07-14T19:15:41Z")
> [@Honoka\_Kawai](#): > > This is good that he stopped posting PvE losses as they means nothing… just noise. interesting you say that… admiral prime claimed a few times the losses dont worry him.. but actions speak louder than words. ---
**Author:** ![Honoka\_Kawai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/honoka_kawai/32/498595_2.png) [@Honoka\_Kawai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Honoka_Kawai)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2026, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/turning-a-hs-gankers-loss-from-pure-pve-to-a-pvp-loss/510454/37 "2026-07-14T20:53:00Z")
Yeah, just go ahead and destroy their day by locking and getting killmails. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tapioca\_Terrorist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_tapioca_terrorist/32/493091_2.png) [@The\_Tapioca\_Terrorist](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Tapioca_Terrorist)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2026, 2:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/turning-a-hs-gankers-loss-from-pure-pve-to-a-pvp-loss/510454/38 "2026-07-15T02:21:49Z")
oh i will… if not me someone else will. ---
**Author:** ![Prime\_Admiral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/prime_admiral/32/476562_2.png) [@Prime\_Admiral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Prime_Admiral)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2026, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/turning-a-hs-gankers-loss-from-pure-pve-to-a-pvp-loss/510454/39 "2026-07-17T08:40:04Z")
> [@Honoka\_Kawai](#): > > BTW, if you look at my recent kills on zKillboard, you’ll see they’re mostly Legion capsules. I consider those a waste of ammo and time because he simply doesn’t care. I leave my pods on grid for people to kill because if people kill them fast it means I dont have to dock up all 30 characters which takes effort Easier if you pod me and send me back to station straight away ---
**Author:** ![Honoka\_Kawai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/honoka_kawai/32/498595_2.png) [@Honoka\_Kawai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Honoka_Kawai)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2026, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/turning-a-hs-gankers-loss-from-pure-pve-to-a-pvp-loss/510454/40 "2026-07-17T15:54:02Z")
Yep, that is why I treat those two capsules as a waste of time and ammo. You do not care about feeding pods as it reduce amount of clicks for you… so no sense to shoot :sadge: Fly safe Admiral! o7 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/turning-a-hs-gankers-loss-from-pure-pve-to-a-pvp-loss/510454.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/turning-a-hs-gankers-loss-from-pure-pve-to-a-pvp-loss/510454.md?page=3)