# Type's of ganking

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [January 2, 2024, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743 "2024-01-02T08:47:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 12:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/21 "2024-01-03T00:40:58Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> I can’t ask about belt gankers,

I’m the Alltime Galactic Belt Champion. Ask your question champ!

(not harassing you by pretending you are a champion, just a FRIENDLY joke)

(exclamation mark not intended as aggressive)

> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> do you know Governor Lee

Yes, of course, he is an old friend.

(not implying that was a wrong question)

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**Author:** ![Captain\_BeerMonster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/captain_beermonster/32/495729_2.png) [@Captain\_BeerMonster](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Captain_BeerMonster)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 2:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/22 "2024-01-03T02:09:50Z")

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![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/5/a/95a06afe199757c7aa56b06ad2f33b40c838065d.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Posh\_Wynoa\_Spice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/posh_wynoa_spice/32/455534_2.png) [@Posh\_Wynoa\_Spice](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Posh_Wynoa_Spice)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 2:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/23 "2024-01-03T02:46:17Z")

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Clearing New Eden of High Sec mining bots is a thankless job that requires the donations of others to keep things going.

With the recent rework, most mining ships can now fit a MWD, so it doesn’t take much for them to burn back into range, so they don’t need a mining tac to warp to and back from the rock if a bumper comes along.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/24 "2024-01-03T10:59:07Z")

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> [@Posh\_Wynoa\_Spice](#):
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> Clearing New Eden of High Sec mining bots is a thankless job that requires the donations of others to keep things going.

Unfortunately in Y125 Frostpacker will only be looking forward to donating isk to support CSM Mike’s [Operation Magic School Bus]

This decision is currently a final draft and has nothing to do with Princess failing me on her impudence training course.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/25 "2024-01-03T11:00:29Z")

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> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#):
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> with Princess failing me on her impudence training course

Got that back to front sweetie

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/26 "2024-01-03T11:04:01Z")

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Seems like a worthy cause to support. Bonus points for Aiko disagreeing with what Mike’s doing. 🤭 😊

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/27 "2024-01-03T11:06:20Z")

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> [@Posh\_Wynoa\_Spice](#):
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> With the recent rework, most mining ships can now fit a MWD, so it doesn’t take much for them to burn back into range, so they don’t need a mining tac to warp to and back from the rock if a bumper comes along.

Let’s also not forget that the asteroids seem to have a larger hitbox and when a Barge is up close to the Asteroid it becomes next to zero chance of being bumped.

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**Author:** ![Snowflake\_Tem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/snowflake_tem/32/432971_2.png) [@Snowflake\_Tem](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Snowflake_Tem)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/28 "2024-01-03T11:10:00Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> I’m a belt griefer!

Did you switch sides Princess?  
If so, belt protection has lost its most noble patron.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/29 "2024-01-03T11:14:25Z")

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I had only upvoted your comment as I once was a patron member of James315.space

Though I am not sure if your reference towards a noble patron was in reference to Frostpacker!

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 1:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/30 "2024-01-04T01:59:27Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> Or am I missing something

You are missing a lot of things.

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 2:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/31 "2024-01-04T02:14:18Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> but the few times that happened it seemed that the gankers would do complete evasion as in gank elsewhere to run their ability to pick and choose.

Its a teaching from Sun Tzus The Art of War.

Fight your opponent where he least expects it, at a location where he least expects it. Do not fight your opponent on their terms.

Whats wrong with that.

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> So I realised that this was not to create a point of conflict with someone, but more to declare their superiority against someone in a mining ship.

Yes, gankers are superior to miners. We already know that, though. No need to declare it.

You might as well be declaring the sky is blue.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/32 "2024-01-04T07:45:36Z")

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We can all selectively quote from Sun Tzu’s Art of War and incorrectly apply it.

So let me see, enemy being of course all miners not the one who set up to fight them. It is only wrong in terms of the context of what I said, which was looking for a personal war with someone.

> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> Yes, gankers are superior to miners. We already know that, though. No need to declare it.
> 
> You might as well be declaring the sky is blue.

It is declared by gankers all the time, and I agree gankers doing that are in fact declaring that the sky is blue.

I hope you are well, long time no see, you must have cleaned the cobwebs off of your Eve account to write this… 😛

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 8:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/33 "2024-01-04T08:30:58Z")

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What I find interesting about ganking is so many people complain about it , post about it , refusing to talk about it on streams . You would think with that amount of negativity there would be armies of players to stand up and fight .

I know it’s a lot to do with game mechanics but you would have thought CCP would have add some form of ag game  
play in the sys .  
All we wanted was the tools to fight gankers not to get rid of them to see if there was any up take on that style of play, they did well with FW . Instead they nerfed things making ganking a bit harder but making ag even more boring.

> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> Fight your opponent where he least expects it, at a location where he least expects it. Do not fight your opponent on their terms.

Which is exactly what gankers did ,run and hide from us at our peak . Which I understand , they didn’t want to fight us

One game machanic that could be used and shows promises is used in FW is the way you can adjust the sys security status, players could low a sys to gank in and other could raise it to stop them . Like in the battle of The fall of Niarga that was a great day in eve even though we lost , as it was written it had to fall.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/34 "2024-01-04T08:41:12Z")

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Sadly CCP destroyed organised AG. I truly do not understand CCP.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/35 "2024-01-04T09:12:23Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> What I find interesting about ganking is so many people complain about it , post about it , refusing to talk about it on streams . You would think with that amount of negativity there would be armies of players to stand up and fight .
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> I know it’s a lot to do with game mechanics but you would have thought CCP would have add some form of ag game

It has nothing to do with game mechanics. The fundamental issue that you don’t seem to grasp is that you’re trying to get people to fight who have absolutely no interest in combat of any kind. Now, if I were to post what you posted, carebears and their sympathizers would start yelling about how I shouldn’t tell other players how to play the game. But you’re actually doing the exact same thing. Except the griefer lobby isn’t vapid enough to pounce on you with some pointless non sequitur for it.

These people just want to log in and grind garbage-tier PvE content for pennies. As they say, it’s “relaxing” for them. They’re society’s worker drones. They go through their entire lives being someone else’s content in some way. They’re basically cattle. I don’t know why you keep trying to convince yourself that this isn’t the case, desperately trying to swim against the river’s raging current. Do you go to slaughterhouses and try to pull the livestock off of the conveyor belts, thinking that you’re performing some kind of noble deed? That’s exceptionally misguided, and you’re ignoring the bigger picture with your refusal to understand how this complex economic system works to completion.

You can’t have beef on your plate without killing the cow.

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/36 "2024-01-04T09:21:13Z")

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Very good post , I was thinking about you the other day .

It’s a shame we are on opposite sides of many things about eve I’m sure you influence more people in eve than you ever know, keep posting and doing your thing.

Happy new year

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/37 "2024-01-04T09:23:21Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> the griefer lobby

Destiny, are you not a griefer? How many blockade runners has destiny popped, stealing their goodies?

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/38 "2024-01-04T09:24:23Z")

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I don’t grief, any combat I do is purely defensive in nature.

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/39 "2024-01-04T09:26:01Z")

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> [@Zaera\_Keena](#):
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> How many blockade runners has destiny popped, stealing their goodies?

I think it’s a case of who’s blockade runner it is really

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/40 "2024-01-04T09:26:32Z")

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The bockade runners put up a good fight?

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