# Type's of ganking

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [January 2, 2024, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743 "2024-01-02T08:47:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/41 "2024-01-04T12:05:45Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> Sadly CCP destroyed organised AG.

I’m pretty sure that was you. Or was it me?

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/42 "2024-01-04T13:12:14Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> I’m pretty sure that was you. Or was it me?

You can’t take credit for everything

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/43 "2024-01-04T13:17:12Z")

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So it was Dracvlad who killed antiganking.

That’s what I thought.

He just made it too boring and the community fell asleep.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/44 "2024-01-04T13:28:00Z")

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He kicked all our spy alts because he knew who they were, until there were no more players in the AG channel except for him.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/45 "2024-01-04T13:30:03Z")

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Antigankers don’t know how to have fun.

That’s why they don’t log in.

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/46 "2024-01-04T14:27:00Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> That’s why they don’t log in.

I logged in today , was nice to be back

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/47 "2024-01-04T14:36:39Z")

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![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/1/c/b1c470a49dde19b9c39053014cb2cf24c2e872c6.webp)

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/48 "2024-01-04T14:36:56Z")

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I never noticed Githy left.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/49 "2024-01-04T14:53:21Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> These people just want to log in and grind garbage-tier PvE content for pennies. As they say, it’s “relaxing” for them. They’re society’s worker drones. They go through their entire lives being someone else’s content in some way. They’re basically cattle. I don’t know why you keep trying to convince yourself that this isn’t the case, desperately trying to swim against the river’s raging current. Do you go to slaughterhouses and try to pull the livestock off of the conveyor belts, thinking that you’re performing some kind of noble deed? That’s exceptionally misguided, and you’re ignoring the bigger picture with your refusal to understand how this complex economic system works to completion.

I had this precise thing in Halaima last night…after some relative noob had been ganked and was cussing in local, I told them that being ganked was not the end of their ‘hero’s journey’ but just the start of it. Meaning that it should inspire them to skill up and get even and play the game they actually joined Eve for rather than being stuck as a miner for years on end. At which point some vet who clearly had done _nothing but_ mining for 15 years objected to the very notion of Eve being any sort of ‘hero’s journey’.

Sigh. You can lead a horse to the water…but you can’t make it drink.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/50 "2024-01-04T14:58:42Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> Sigh. You can lead a horse to the water…but you can’t make it drink.

And that’s why you use the horse to make glue instead.

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/51 "2024-01-04T19:06:14Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> We can all selectively quote from Sun Tzu’s Art of War and incorrectly apply it.

How have i incorrectly applied it?

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> So let me see, enemy being of course all miners not the one who set up to fight them. It is only wrong in terms of the context of what I said, which was looking for a personal war with someone.

This is EVE. You should expect a fight, and plan for a fight, every time you hit “undock”. Whenever i undock, i am literally at war with everyone in local who isnt blue, and I treat everyone as such.

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> I hope you are well, long time no see, you must have cleaned the cobwebs off of your Eve account to write this… 😛

Yeah, ive been posting less and less, but Ive still posted here and there. Its been a while since i responded to you, thats for sure. I am doing well, I hope youre doing well too. Happy new year!

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/52 "2024-01-04T19:17:36Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> Instead they nerfed things making ganking a bit harder but making ag even more boring.

Thats becaus AG is trying to be reactive, instead of proactive. And no one wants to fight a battle thats already lost.

> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> Which is exactly what gankers did ,run and hide from us at our peak . Which I understand , they didn’t want to fight us

If you had 2 generals on the battlefield, trying to take down a castle, and the defenders in the castle were taunting the generals to come out in the open plain and fight them, and one general took the bait and had his army decimated, while the other general stood his ground and didnt move and avoided unnecessary losses, then came back and ambushed the resupply convoys and starved the defenders into submission, which would you think would you consider the smarter, more competant, adept General?

Thus is the brilliance of the Gankers.

> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> One game machanic that could be used and shows promises is used in FW is the way you can adjust the sys security status, players could low a sys to gank in and other could raise it to stop them . Like in the battle of The fall of Niarga that was a great day in eve even though we lost , as it was written it had to fall.

This would cause so much chaos. Imagine being able to lower Jita to 0.5 and make it far, far easier to gank.

I like this idea.

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/53 "2024-01-04T19:31:03Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> You can lead a horse to the water…but you can’t make it drink

Very true , just like real , eve is filled with some strange folks.  
One time had intel that a streamer that was going to be the target of a gank , we assembled a group of about 10 players to fly to his system and try and intercept the gankers en route, note sure the gankers got a fleet up as our heroic spy had to log . Never the less our appointed leader of the fleet made contact with him to warn him of an income gank on his mining fleet .

He said we was the ones griefing him and gave us abuse in local and on his stream, at which point he got up from his chair and went to put his trousers on leaving his orca afk .

That’s the closest I’ve got to ganking someone but each to his own regarding the trousers.

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2024, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/54 "2024-01-04T19:35:13Z")

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> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> Thats becaus AG is trying to be reactive, instead of proactive

We realised this it’s why we stopped trying to stop belt ganks , started hunting with kill rights and baiting gankers in events sites, much more fun

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 1:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/55 "2024-01-05T01:26:00Z")

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Well…my suspicion is that people join Eve for all the tales of epic space battles, intrigue, etc, and many somehow get sidelined into doing _nothing but_ mining, though they would _not_ have joined Eve if it were advertised as a ‘space mining simulator’. Mining should be a means to an end…acquiring combat ships and so on…and not an end in itself.

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/56 "2024-01-05T08:02:56Z")

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Did you know at the start CCP never thought mining would be a big thing and people would make gaming careers doing it.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/57 "2024-01-05T18:09:26Z")

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So mining is an exploit?

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/58 "2024-01-05T19:49:07Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> Did you know at the start CCP never thought mining would be a big thing and people would make gaming careers doing it.

Wouldn’t surprise me at all. Neither does it surprise me that people get stuck in it…when for the price of a pint of beer they could have 500m ISK, rather than mine for hours.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/59 "2024-01-05T20:40:43Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> rather than mine for hours

Mining kills braincells

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/60 "2024-01-05T21:21:48Z")

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Just like a pint

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