# Type's of ganking **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [January 2, 2024, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743 "2024-01-02T08:47:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/101 "2024-01-09T09:34:54Z")
He perhaps? ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/102 "2024-01-09T09:54:55Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > Well mine are Fang/fangs/fangself You do know I won’t be calling you any of these , ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/103 "2024-01-09T10:12:11Z")
There’s two types of ganking: - successful and - unsuccessful 🥸 🥳 All the rest is just being a bad sport, or woefully underskilled. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/e/a/1eafa7e974a1e4f93f46aec75654c633717e51bc.png) ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/104 "2024-01-09T14:38:34Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Relax guys, you don’t need to take that comment ‘real PvP’ as a personal affront to your feelings. It really only describes a PvP battle where the prey is fighting back and is a real risk to you, which Destiny saw with his Stork for example. No…its absurd to argue that what you are depends on how the other person responds. That would mean that one’s inherent status was not actually intrinsic and thus you could never assign any ‘real’ label to it anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/105 "2024-01-09T16:56:13Z")
I have no clue on the point you are trying to make, but if it makes you feel better then feel free. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/106 "2024-01-09T17:25:22Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I have no clue on the point you are trying to make It’s pretty simple plain English. If you attack someone then their _response_ does not determine whether _you_ have done PvP or not. What’s not to understand ? ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/107 "2024-01-09T17:30:41Z")
I still have no idea what point you are trying to make, and also wondering just why you are bothering to make such a point on something that is off-topic and was a clarification and nothing else. But as I said, if it makes you feel better then whatever… ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/108 "2024-01-09T18:11:36Z")
Dracvlad, Altara is simply pointing out the obvious. PvP does not need to be consensual. It only takes one player to start PvP. Just look at Zaera, fang doesn’t need your permission to show fang’s images which mock you - that’s real PvP right there. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/109 "2024-01-09T18:37:39Z")
Well of course Drac is going to ignore/deny the point…as it makes nonsense of his whole ’ its only PvP if the guy is fighting back ’ contrivance. Whether someone fires back is irrelevant. If I attack someone then _I_ am engaging in PvP. What the other person does is totally inconsequential to that. It is still PvP even if the other person fumbles the F1 key and never fires a shot. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/110 "2024-01-09T18:41:35Z")
Yeah, but Dracvlad is speaking as a smart, cold, and calculating hunter. Who the hell are you to say that he’s wrong? He made an _entire fleet_ dock up once just with his mere presence. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/111 "2024-01-09T18:44:59Z")
Wait a minute… Don’t hunters hunt targets that can’t shoot back? ![Rifle-Scopes-for-Deer-Hunting](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/5/f/45f0acb1b0c421860e22c2b4196ff1ff6a5a472d.jpeg) Furthermore… ![Akagi-10-LR](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/1/1/a115812d85c02e34fa328084ead53209a5cffd28.webp) Was the sinking of _Akagi_ not PvP? Why did griefers attack the unarmed bowhead? Shouldn’t devs intervene and reimburse the hauler? The innocent bowhead was just trying to jump into Midway, and the griefers tried to act like they owned the place, but everybody knows you can’t claim the ocean! ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/112 "2024-01-09T19:07:22Z")
The Akagi consented to PvP when it undocked. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/113 "2024-01-09T19:08:53Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > The gank made the miner mad and the looting gave me a suspect status. It is the perfect bait, because it looks like being part of a regular gank operation. The Orca isn’t suspicious in a mining belt and it’s not obvious it belongs to the operation. If you’re in High or Low Sec, there is no means to enforce the claim of the belt belonging to you. In Null, you have to have defense fleets to enforce Sov over the belts, otherwise the belt is free for anyone to mine. Aiko, you’re ignored, forever. Now. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/114 "2024-01-09T19:13:46Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > If you’re in High or Low Sec, there is no means to enforce the claim of the belt belonging to you. Have you ever heard of ganking? ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/115 "2024-01-09T19:21:48Z")
> Aiko, you’re ignored, forever. > > Now. Haha, epic gWanker salt! Take _that,_ griefer! ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/116 "2024-01-09T19:22:59Z")
I wonder if he blocked Karak, thinking that is me, or if he blocked me because my image of the Japanese bowhead made him realize that we have a valid point? ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/117 "2024-01-09T19:24:43Z")
**That is actually what I did. I used my main (this char) as a scout and a looter. Most gankers use a low SP alt for this. I was usually using a Venture or some other fragile ship and had another alt in an Orca where I stored the loot.** Kerek Terrel First off, no true mining operation would ever use Ventures and an Orca to mine. Any miner already knows that a Procurer + the bonuses created by the Orca will yield much more ore than a Venture + Orca. So, if you see several Ventures + an Orca in a belt, that is going to be a gank set-up, especially when the Orca moves away towards your ship. A good defense to try against Gankers is to set up containers around your barge at the minimum distance. The ganker ships will most likely be Alpha Destroyers that will need to warp to the barge or Orca within 1,000 meters to put max DPS on the mining ship. The containers could prevent an accurate warp in / landing by causing one or more of the Alpha Destroyers to bounce off of the container and therefore causing less DPS to be applied to the target. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/118 "2024-01-09T19:26:26Z")
Cans are non-collidable, dummy. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/119 "2024-01-09T19:29:33Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Cans are non-collidable, dummy. 👆 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743/120 "2024-01-09T19:32:47Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > if you see several Ventures + an Orca in a belt, that is going to be a gank set-up, ??? > [@DrysonBennington](#): > > within 1,000 meters to put max DPS on the mining ship It’s shocking how little he knows. He’s been playing the game longer than me, obsessively writing about ganking, and still doesn’t know our engagement profile. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/types-of-ganking/434743.md?page=7)