# Uedama anti-gank

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [May 23, 2020, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461 "2020-05-23T18:53:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/213 "2020-05-30T21:05:03Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> The point is that I am backing up Lucas Kell’s statement that it is impossible to win, and I am focussing on the excessive multi-boxing no life gankers, and we also got onto the fact that we cannot in the majority of cases save a target, and that loot denial is the only approach that works.

And your point is nonsense. It is in fact possible to win, you just aren’t dedicated enough to winning. You admit yourself that the issue is “no-life gankers” that are active more hours per day than you, not that it is not possible to win when you are dedicated to winning. Lucas Kell is a useless whiner, and you should be ashamed of yourself for endorsing his complaints.

> Being on station waiting for a ganker to be active is difficult especially for hisec players that still have to grind, unless they are playing the market like Tipa.

IOW, just like I said: you aren’t dedicated enough to your cause. You only care about anti-ganking when it can be done easily and without disrupting your farming, you aren’t willing to dedicate your time to it. So why should you get to win?

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**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/214 "2020-05-30T21:13:38Z")

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> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> Aha except that was _also_ sarcasm! Mua ha ha ha!

Not only are you showing your inability to understand sarcasm, but you’re completely ignoring the fact that it’s impossible for that to be true, showing again your dishonesty here…

You would have been much better off admitting you were wrong when you claimed that one may just claim anything he said is sarcasm to get a free pass. That statement was obviously wrong because of consistency reasons anyway.

But no, you’ve _chosen_ to prove how dishonest you are instead. Not a smart move.

> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> Sure, and others can also witness that you start lobbing insults long before anyone does anything that should reasonably offend you.

Cool. Feel free to ask any of them help you find a case where I start lobbing insults for the sole reason that someone disagrees with me. With so many people seeing that, it should be easier to find one such case now…

> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> No. I believe that your intention is to engage in libel and that claims it was just sarcasm are just because you got called out on it.

ROFLMAO. 🤣 🤣

Just to be clear, nowhere did I say the whole mockery was sarcasm. I could have said it because it is, but the sarcasm part of the discussion was about you wanting the game mechanics to be changed. The other part, i.e. me claiming you’re a CODE alt, does qualify as sarcasm too, I but I didn’t expect that would require clarification, LOL.

Now, with that cleared up, you’re gonna see me claim you’re a CODE alt in more threads from now on, so you may want to consider reporting me or suing me for libel or something… 🤣

> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> That’s simply not true though. I claim you are a ganker alt because you hang out with them, gank other players, were widely considered to be a code spy long ago, and got booted from the AG channel for behaving too much like code. I’ve stated this multiple times and yet you’re _still_ trying to lie and claim that it’s just because I disagree with your weird views on ganking.

Not at all. _Unlike_ you, I’m able to see that you do not claim I’m a CODE alt for the sole reason that I disagree with you. What I said is that you do that _in general_, i.e. that you do on a regular basis claim _other_ people you know absolutely nothing about are ganker alts for the sole reason that they disagree with your views on ganking. And in case you’re not even aware or you want to pretend you don’t do that, you just have to see that you were mocked by someone else for doing precisely that in one of the first posts in this thread.

Now, what I’m saying is that _in my case_ your claim is still completely made up because none of your “reasons” is valid at all, and that you’re unable to see that because you **need** to believe I’m a CODE alt or things simply wouldn’t make sense to you otherwise.

> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> You’ve even admitted to cooperating with code in this thread, genius.

LOL, yes, in my previous post even, where I explained how exactly do I cooperate with them, after which I asked how does that make me a CODE alt, which you’ve completely dodged…

> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> I’m not going to hunt about for evidence that something you’re lying about is a lie. I’ll just call it out for being a lie and you can go right ahead and provide evidence that it’s not.

> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> Most of this thread, and most other threads you are involved in.

Look, the thing you’re claiming I lied about here is me saying I don’t make up stuff nor ignore any relevant facts, remember? How am I supposed to prove that this is not a lie? What should I look for to prove it?

It’s obviously **you** who should prove your accusation that it’s a lie by finding one, just one case, of me making up something (other than claiming you’re a CODE alt, LOL), or ignoring some relevant fact.

Moreover, you’re claiming yourself that I’ve been doing it in this very thread, so it sure should be something recent that you vaguely remember and could easily find… Unless you made that up too, of course…

> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> So you don’t have evidence, gotcha.

But I don’t want, nor do I have to, prove to _you_ that I’m not a CODE alt. Actually, I want you to keep believing I am, hence why I’m not going to provide any evidence of that.

The issue here is not whether I have evidence that I’m not a CODE alt. The issue is that you keep believing I am with absolutely nothing to substantiate it other than you feeling the **need** to believe it. None of the “reasons” you have to believe I am a CODE alt are valid at all, and yet you’re not able to see that for the simple reason that you **need** to believe I am…

> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> You’re aware that long before your ban numerous people within the channel thought you were a code spy and would move conversations elsewhere when you arrived, right?

LOL. What? And what do you mean “when I arrived”? When I arrived where?

I was on and hence in channel most of the day. Not to mention there would be ganker alts all the time with or without me there anyway. Why would they move conversations elsewhere “when I arrived” because of fear that I in particular was a CODE alt?

Makes no sense. This is getting hilarious. 🤣 🤣

> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> > [@Knowledgeminer](#):
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> > Yes, I’ve cooperated with them to gank pilots
> 
> See. There we go again. You cooperate with code to gank pilots, but you’re somehow claiming you’re not a ganker. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Yes. Exactly. But what’s really funny about this is that, in order for you to _try_ to prove your point, you’re blatantly doing precisely some of the crap that I’m saying you do all the time, namely misrepresenting what I said by purposely omitting and ignoring the relevant parts that don’t fit your narrative…

Too bad anyone interested may simply check the full thing I said to see why having cooperated with CODE does **not** imply I’m a CODE alt, and how you’re purposely omitting and ignoring the relevant parts that would make that clear, eh?

> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> I have. You ignored it because it didn’t fit your agenda.

What? Where have you shown a case of me “lobbing tirades of attacks” for the sole reason that someone disagreed with me? You’ve claimed it many times, but not shown a single case of me actually doing that.

I mean, I’m just asking for a single quote of me doing that. Sure it should be easy considering how often I do it… You’re not afraid that if you provide such an example I could easily prove that there was some _other_ reason I started to behave that way, are you?

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**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2020, 12:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/216 "2020-05-31T00:58:05Z")

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> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> I’ve shown it multiple times.

You’re confusing having claimed it multiple times with having shown any case of me doing that.

But look, this is easy, you don’t even have to bother check older posts, just let us know the next time you see me “lobbing insults” for the sole reason that someone disagrees with me again. I do it all the time, so it sure should be easy and will happen soon.

Just be sure you **quote** me doing that, don’t merely claim you saw me do it in some unspecified thread, which is the only thing you’ve done so far…

> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> > [@Knowledgeminer](#):
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> > Just to be clear, nowhere did I say the whole mockery was sarcasm.
> 
> You definitely did.

Nope. It doesn’t really matter whether I did or not because the whole mockery _does_ qualify as sarcasm (i.e. the use of irony for mockery purposes), but the discussion about the sarcasm thing was about this, which is how you stated it yourself:

> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> You were making a claim that I don’t want to change the mechanics. You may have intended the first line as sarcasm but the rest clearly wasn’t.

The part about me claiming you’re a CODE alt was never part of _that_ discussion. It became _another_ point of discussion later as a result of you pretending it was an “example” of me lying, LOL.

> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> > [@Knowledgeminer](#):
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> > that you do on a regular basis claim _other_ people you know absolutely nothing about are ganker alts for the sole reason that they disagree with your views on ganking
> 
> This is yet another blatant lie. It’s like you can’t help yourself. It’s quite intriguing. Do you get an adrenaline rush when you lie?

Awesome! You were mocked in this thread for doing precisely that… **You did it again precisely in your reply to that post** … And you have the bollocks to pretend it’s me who is lying…

Unfortunately for you, _unlike_ you, I do provide evidence of my claims, precisely because, _unlike_ you, I do base my claims on facts. Here’s the post that shows you doing that in this very thread:

> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> to claim I’m wrong you have to disagree with all **your buddies** who also believe AG is ineffective

This is the kind of things that eventually happen to dishonest people like you. You get so used to do your crap, that you don’t even realise when you’re doing it again. And then you try to make it look like it’s the other people calling you a liar who is lying… Only they aren’t, and the result is that you get caught with more crap on you than there would be if you had simply acknowledged what you were doing wrong…

But please, feel free to pretend I’m misrepresenting what you meant and that you were not referring to him being a ganker there. Wonder if we may have some fun with this too…

> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> All of my reasons are perfectly valid. You just don’t like them.

> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> You ganking with code is evidence of you being a code alt. I don’t need to further clarify it.

And this says it all, really. I’m gonna bookmark this for posterity too because it perfectly illustrates the quality of your “reasoning” for anyone that can be bothered.

> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> That sounds remarkably like your problem to solve.

LOL. How is it my problem that you claim I’m lying about something I say I never do, but then you fail to show a single case of me doing it?

> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> I have.

Look, I know this is difficult for you to understand, but that does **not** count as you showing a case of me doing any of the things you claim I do.

You cannot pretend I’m as bad as you by merely claiming I also do all the wrong things you do but without anything to support your claims…

> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> Oh I see. so you won’t provide evidence, not because the evidence doesn’t exist but because you want me to keep stating the obvious fact.

Right.

> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> It seems odd then that your reaction is to start hurling abusive language about if I’m saying exactly what you want me to, mighty puppetmaster.

It may seem odd to _you_ because you don’t get it, but it’s perfectly understandable for anyone watching the spectacle of you making a fool of yourself like that.

You wouldn’t have made such ridiculous claims as you’ve made here, thus making the quality of your “reasoning” perfectly clear for everyone to see, if you knew I’m not a CODE alt.

Just to give you an idea how fun this may be for many here, imagine for a moment that I am indeed who I say I am and not a CODE alt, then go read everything you’ve said about it again. Not telling you to actually stop believing I’m a CODE alt, by all means keep believing it, but just try to imagine for a moment what you would look like if I happened to not be… 🤣

> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> > [@Knowledgeminer](#):
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> > I mean, I’m just asking for a single quote of me doing that.
> 
> Why would I do that?

Well, if I was in your situation, I sure would want to prove at least **one** of the things you’re claiming I do wrong. I mean, to not make it look like it’s all made up, you know…

> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> I mean you said it yourself:
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> > [@Knowledgeminer](#):
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> > Sorry, but not doing the work for you

Only I said that in reply to you asking for evidence that I’m not a CODE alt…

_Unlike_ you, when I claim someone does something wrong, I _do_ provide evidence of it, often because an example was provided precisely in the post I’m replying to, and if not when required, like I did in this post when you pretended I was lying about you claiming other people are ganker alts for the sole reason that they disagree with you…

But you cannot see the difference, can you? Actually, you’re gonna pretend there is no difference between what you and I do in this regard, right?

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**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2020, 4:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/217 "2020-05-31T04:39:18Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> excessive multi-boxing no life gankers

It’s incredibly funny you saying that when agers are actually on for far more hours than any of the big dog gankers. Eskati literally is on disability and sits in Uedama 16 hours a day nonstop for the last 5 years lmao 🤣

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> , some give it back to the original victim.

hahaha hasent happened even once

It’s absolutely hilarious you complaining about the time involved sitting around waiting for us to gank, like its some unique issue to being a loser ager and not involved in pvp in any other game where you can nolife harass and follow single players or groups lmao

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2020, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/218 "2020-05-31T08:10:05Z")

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I know Knowledgeminer has dunked like millions of isk, and Australian has dunked like trillions and trillions, I’m not sure what Dracvlad or Lucas have ever done.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2020, 8:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/219 "2020-05-31T08:26:17Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> I know Knowledgeminer has dunked like millions of isk, and Australian has dunked like trillions and trillions,

There you go from the horses mouth the reality of the AG vs ganker scoreboard. I am of course assuming that you are focussing on Knowledgeminer’s blowing up of gankers and not his ganking.

> [@Australian\_Excellence](#):
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> It’s incredibly funny you saying that when agers are actually on for far more hours than any of the big dog gankers. Eskati literally is on disability and sits in Uedama 16 hours a day nonstop for the last 5 years lmao 🤣

That is a lie, I know the guy you speak of, he is a multi-boxer AG player and an effective one too, he tends to contest Kusion as he is on during part of Kusions play time. The sixteen hours is a complete fabrication, very rarely did I see him log on after DT and that was for special ops. Most of the time he would turn up after 18:00 Eve time when I was no longer really active and when I logged on for my first does at 06:00 or 07:00 Eve time I would never find him on.

> [@Australian\_Excellence](#):
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> hahaha hasent happened even once

Has happened many times.

> [@Australian\_Excellence](#):
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> where you can nolife harass and follow single players or groups lmao

Is that a whine I detect there, salty madam indeed.

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**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2020, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/221 "2020-05-31T10:27:38Z")

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LOL. You’ve been doing this here and there throughout the discussion, but now you’ve become so exposed that it’s the _only_ thing you’re capable of… And you seem to believe that makes you look smart of something… 🤣

Well done. I love it when crappy “participants” like you dig such big holes for themselves. Time to move on. Back to ignoring your posts and your “opinions” until some poor soul that doesn’t know you yet gets caught again…

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**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2020, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/222 "2020-05-31T10:42:44Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> AG player and an effective one too

Guys followed me around for THOUSANDS of hours and never saved anything (Among a large pathetic list of no-life losers), effective at wasting his own time maybe

The fact he runs that many chars and still cant stop any ganks proves how retarded agers are

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> The sixteen hours is a complete fabrication

It’s actually not. He goes to bed like 4 hours before DT and four hours after hes awake and there every single day lmao

Even after I quit for like 10 months, come back and hes still there like time has stopped, the guys legit mentally retarded 🤣

Doesn’t work, just sits there following me and kusion around for thousands of hours failing to stop ganks 😂

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2020, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/224 "2020-05-31T12:46:09Z")

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A simple test, I logged on Dracvlad, I am in the same channel as him, he is not logged on at all, I know he is subbed. My experience with him is that when I have been on, which can be any where between 07:00 Eve time to 21:00. I have seen him log in as I decide to log out. As I often leave an account logged in even when I am doing other things I can see if there have been any interaction with others.

So you are lying, Sunday and at 12:44 Eve time he is not even on, and this is getting late for you. So pretending that he spends his time opposing you is also complete bullshite, he opposes Kusion in the main.

Keep lying madam…

NB 14:26 Eve time and still not on, yeah really follows you around madam. 14:27 just logged on. As I said he concentrates on Kusion.

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**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2020, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/225 "2020-05-31T23:46:57Z")

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Why are you even trying to argue this dracvlad? The guy doesn’t have a job and logs his chars in pretty much everytime me or kusion log in. Are you just so butthurt you can’t even admit simple reality?

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> his time opposing you is also complete bullshite,

I suppose those thousands of hours I’ve seen him following me around he must have been there coincidently following someone else in the same system on the same grid 🤣 👌

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> Keep lying madam…

Why do you have to be such a cringey loser? Lmao

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/226 "2020-06-01T08:06:44Z")

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> [@Australian\_Excellence](#):
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> Why are you even trying to argue this dracvlad? The guy doesn’t have a job and logs his chars in pretty much everytime me or kusion log in. Are you just so butthurt you can’t even admit simple reality?

Because you are lying, his TZ does not overlap yours at all and I just proved it. His play time is nothing lke yours, it is a big lie.

The same lie as you saying that I have been bested by you in Uedama when I have hardly ever gone to Uedama and did most of my activities in Niarja. I remember you having a go at me with your banned character Wolf Soprano a number of years ago on one of the few times I was there. And before my recent break I spent three days there against Kusion. But that is it., I may have said CODE fail again each time I passed through without being ganked, but that is a victory for me. You lie all the time madam.

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**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/227 "2020-06-01T08:55:04Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> Because you are lying, his TZ does not overlap yours at all and I just proved it. His play time is nothing lke yours, it is a big lie.

Why are his characters all over my loss mails? 🤔

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> I just proved it.

You literally didn’t prove anything lmao, all you did was say that character wasn’t online in eve

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> The same lie as you saying that I have been bested by you in Uedama

Repeatedly in Uedama and on the forums, Dracvlad 10/10 absolutely dominated by Australian Excellence

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/228 "2020-06-01T10:37:48Z")

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The lies, what a liar.

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**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/229 "2020-06-01T11:04:51Z")

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Yes, you don’t say a single word of truth ever.

Maybe if you weren’t a compulsive liar, you wouldn’t get so thoroughly owned by me nonstop

I hope you don’t quit again, like after I dominated you last time. Even with all the lying and your 70iq, you’re a great source of material to laugh at 🤣

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 11:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/230 "2020-06-01T11:23:14Z")

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> [@Australian\_Excellence](#):
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> Why are his characters all over my loss mails? 🤔

And this:

> [@Australian\_Excellence](#):
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> I hope you don’t quit again, like after I dominated you last time. Even with all the lying and your 70iq, you’re a great source of material to laugh at 🤣

Where are my loss mails from your feeble efforts.

I rage quit over the kill right system not being fit for purpose, nothing to do with you.

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**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/231 "2020-06-01T11:25:46Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> Where are my loss mails from your feeble efforts.
> 
> I rage quit over the kill right system not being fit for purpose, nothing to do with you

Sure you did

> [@Dracvlad](#):
>
> nothing to do with you.

🤣

I hope I wasn’t haunting your dreams for too long after I dominated you and sent you over the edge 😆

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**Post date:** [June 1, 2020, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/232 "2020-06-01T11:40:35Z")

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So you are the kill right system then.

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**Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 2:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/233 "2020-06-02T02:49:30Z")

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> [@QuakeGod](#):
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> You do realize that now CODE will simply bring twice the number of ships needed, right?

This guy is right. Abandon all hope.

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**Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/234 "2020-06-03T11:46:10Z")

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Is this a carebear problem I’m to unqualified to understand or even enjoy?  
This Dravclad cretin is whining about Code. he rage quitted the game, but that has nothing to do with Code.  
But we still find him on the Eve Online forum ranting about Code. , wailing about how evil Excellence and Kusion are, and it’s still not about Code.

Then we have a new contester for “the expert” title (as coined by Lord Maldoror) Archimedes Eratosthenes. . . A true “pyfa-warrior” if I ever saw one. Too afraid to risk anything at all and tries to boost his “experience” with tales of WH space . . . I will make a lowball guess that: “I have nullsec friends” are coming real soon.

And “just trust me, proof” Lucas Kell is still vomiting out more idiocracy than a lucid PMS cow on crack.

Good to see that things are still the same, AG is doing their thing and Code. are still sailing under a clear sky.

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**Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/235 "2020-06-03T14:38:07Z")

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I rage quit over the kill right system being unfit for purpose when trying to use it against a wardecker who also ganked. As soon as the kill right was assigned he would get a mail, but we could not apply the kill right for over an hour, which made it totally useless. And biased towards wrong doers…

I am not ranting or whining about CODE, you are the one ranting about me, like many of you ganker or ganker aligned types you have a very fragile mind.

I have re-subbed and have already murdered one CODE Catalyst on a gate using one of my characters for no loss, as per normal.

The major issue I had was bumping, and I am glad to see that the gankers have adjusted and are ganking in spite of saying that it was going to kill ganking. Pro tip it did not. Who is ranting and whining here? They were.

Ganking is at this point fine, DST loot scooping is lame, but what ho…

My criticism of excessive multi-boxing is not only in terms of ganking, I think it is an issue for the game period.

I guess that you will define what I said above is whining, all I can say to that is get a life and a brain, 😂

EDIT: Hell Dawn decided to attack an abandoned structure, so we decided to get in the way, my colleage nabbed all the salvage and the loot while I bumped their looter and had it locked with a Devoter. As icing on the cake CODE ganked and looted their polarised Talos Which I really enjoyed:

> **[Talos | P4nd3m0n10 | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/84705404/)**
>
> P4nd3m0n10 (EvE Most Wanted) lost their Talos in Otela (The Forge). Final Blow by Ulianov (New Order Logistics) flying in a Catalyst. Total Value: 205,759,599.23 ISK

o7 to CODE for that one.

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