# Uedama anti-gank

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [May 23, 2020, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461 "2020-05-23T18:53:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/338 "2020-06-11T07:10:14Z")

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There were some rumors, the original Kusion sold his gank setup … anyway I may dig up the logs from July 13/14th, 2019 if back in town. At least he was angry enough to waste his squad on my Phobos in revenge two weeks later [https://zkillboard.com/kill/78064241/](https://zkillboard.com/kill/78064241/).

About whining, people losing to ganks whine on the forums, but gankers whine in local or send angry emails/convos, which may not be that visible to the public. 😉

The tears help fueling the business 😛

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**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/339 "2020-06-11T15:29:03Z")

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> [@Tipa\_Riot](#):
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> There were some rumors, the original Kusion sold his gank setup

Lol what 😆

> [@Tipa\_Riot](#):
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> At least he was angry enough to waste his squad on my Phobos in revenge two weeks later [Phobos | Tipa Riot | Killmail | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/kill/78064241/).

How is that him angry? It’s just him dunking some dumb antiganker with 20mil of thrashers lmao

> [@Tipa\_Riot](#):
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> About whining, people losing to ganks whine on the forums, but gankers whine in local or send angry emails/convos, which may not be that visible to the public. 😉

Lmao, yeah sure

Just another failure following gankers around failing nonstop daily as we gank like you’re not even there 🤣

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**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/340 "2020-06-11T15:43:50Z")

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I see, you are as easily triggered as Dracvlad sometimes. That’s the amusing part of it. Hint, I’m not an anti-ganker. Because if ganks fail I have nothing to gain. 😁

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**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/341 "2020-06-11T15:49:29Z")

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Lmao typical ager, say dumbass stuff and say people are triggered because you can’t stop ganks 😆

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**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/342 "2020-06-11T15:50:39Z")

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You don’t get it, I see. People in filter bubbles are so cute.

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**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/343 "2020-06-11T15:52:00Z")

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I get it. You can’t stop ganks and just sit there watching them in awe of our greatness

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**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/344 "2020-06-11T16:03:47Z")

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Yeah, this describes me perfectly well, nothing else to add, GF GF.

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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/346 "2020-06-25T22:26:23Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> I have re-subbed and have already murdered one CODE Catalyst on a gate using one of my characters for no loss, as per normal.

Somebody help me out, what kind of mental condition is displayed here?

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/347 "2020-06-26T19:41:04Z")

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Competence…

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**Author:** ![Solecist\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_projekt/32/204683_2.png) [@Solecist\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/349 "2020-06-27T08:59:49Z")

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Was checking your killboard.

What’s up with that 32 billion ISK hauler?  
How did that happen? 😃

> **[Occator | kpe3u | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/81752385/)**
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> kpe3u (Wiskey Brothers) lost their Occator in Niarja (Domain). Final Blow by Daijiro Sakai (WHoliday Campaign) flying in a Gnosis. Total Value: 32,541,059,395.84 ISK

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/350 "2020-06-27T10:07:01Z")

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Loot denial. They do not attempt to stop the gank any more. They let the gank continue and kill the neutral alt of the gankertrying to scoop the loot. AG sees that as a victory.

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**Author:** ![Solecist\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_projekt/32/204683_2.png) [@Solecist\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/351 "2020-06-27T10:26:00Z")

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Usually there’s someone scooping into the hangar …  
… but apparently that was not what’s happening.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/352 "2020-06-27T12:32:26Z")

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> **[zKillboard.com / Related Kills | Niarja | 2020-02-19 14:00](https://zkillboard.com/related/30003504/202002191400/)**
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> A battle took place in Niarja (Pochven) involving 37 pilots who lost a total of 76,656,406,335.41 isk

That was a Chinese player who auto-piloted a JF with a huge cargo in ISK. It was bumped off the gate and because it was slow boating to the gate the gankers concerned kept it in location while they formed the gank fleet. I rushed there having been informed of it in Gank Intel.

The gankers had a freighter to loot scoop, but because I was there in a Devoter he hesitated and they did not have someone able to loot scoop. So a Tornado gankers looter who operated in Niarja nabbed the loot instead. He went FY and I pointed him. He almost made the gate, the Gnosis pilot did a great job bumping him and overheating. And the whole lot was lost to the loot fairies dark side as it was in a plastic wrap.

The other plastic wrap that survived the JF I don’t know what happened to that.

The gankers were asking in local for the kill mail after the Occatar was blown up. They did not get upset in local, but they logged off soon after.

> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#):
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> Loot denial. They do not attempt to stop the gank any more. They let the gank continue and kill the neutral alt of the gankertrying to scoop the loot. AG sees that as a victory.

It is a victory, don’t forget that we are there to oppose gankers.

> [@Solecist\_Projekt](#):
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> Usually there’s someone scooping into the hangar …

They hesitated or did not have someone in position fast enough. When that happens they often take a punt on loot scooping and hoping to warp out. It is likely that he screwed up his loot scoop alignement. I had the freighter locked and was watching for other people. My alt was on the way back in a ship which was designed to vaporise the noob ship that scoops into the hanger and help blow up anything we pointed but I did not get him there in time.

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**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/353 "2020-06-27T13:45:36Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> back in a ship which was designed to vaporise the noob ship that scoops into the hanger

Wow, you admit a planned suicide gank 😉

… just to help fueling the discussion 😛

BTW, shifting the mind of AG people towards loot denial, loot thieves is a success story it seems.

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/354 "2020-06-27T13:49:13Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> It is a victory,

AG _sees_ it as a victory.

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**Author:** ![Aaaarrgg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaaarrgg/32/395089_2.png) [@Aaaarrgg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaaarrgg)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/355 "2020-06-27T14:03:29Z")

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> [@Tipa\_Riot](#):
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> Wow, you admit a planned suicide gank 😉

Yes they do that, the anti gankers have a wing which suicide ganks folk too. I am not sure if they understand the irony there, as folk say, if you cant beat them join them.

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**Author:** ![Minx\_Mattel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minx_mattel/32/254801_2.png) [@Minx\_Mattel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Minx_Mattel)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/356 "2020-06-27T14:29:43Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> It is a victory, don’t forget that we are there to oppose gankers.

Are we moving goal posts again?  
Wasn’t the goal of AG to stop ganks, intead of “oppose gankers”. That is not the same thing, far from it.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/357 "2020-06-27T19:59:59Z")

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> [@Tipa\_Riot](#):
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> Wow, you admit a planned suicide gank 😉

Hehe, suicide ganking ganker scouts is great fun and killing the noob loot scooper may make them chance their arm with a DST or freighter. Then party time!!!

> [@Tipa\_Riot](#):
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> BTW, shifting the mind of AG people towards loot denial, loot thieves is a success story it seems.

In truth Knowledgeminer shifted my thinking and Equ really made me see it as the only way.

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**Author:** ![Solecist\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_projekt/32/204683_2.png) [@Solecist\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/358 "2020-06-27T20:09:06Z")

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Thank you. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Solecist\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_projekt/32/204683_2.png) [@Solecist\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/359 "2020-06-27T20:16:03Z")

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> [@Aaaarrgg](#):
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> Yes they do that, the anti gankers have a wing which suicide ganks folk too. I am not sure if they understand the irony there, as folk say, if you cant beat them join them.

There is no irony here.

Not using all the tools available at your disposal might seem honourable for some,  
especially when these tools are being used by the enemy,  
but it is ultimately foolish in the eyes of history.

Hubris, which this is about, rarely makes a winner.

My personal advise, if you asked me, would be to take the growing threat seriously. You would not wish to repeat the history of others, who ultimately fell prey to their own hubris. It’s the pride that goes just before the fall.

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I … I guess I need to say something dumb now …  
… to balance this out again.

uh …

Narf.

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