# Uedama anti-gank **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [May 23, 2020, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461 "2020-05-23T18:53:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/480 "2020-08-18T15:50:00Z")
Dude, I don’t know if anyone’s ever told you this, but I’m really sorry we rekt your emergent gameplay wreck shooting by using our CSM/mittani connections to get the game changed specifically to thwart the pathetic DPS output of the 3 autistic guys who were doing this at the time. That’s our bad. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/481 "2020-08-18T16:05:36Z")
Insincere apology noted. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/482 "2020-08-18T16:34:37Z")
Dracvlad, you just need to harden up and adapt. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/483 "2020-08-18T16:37:20Z")
Adapted a long time ago, I just love pointing out that gankers had to whine to CCP to get mechanics changed because they could not counter it. And if anyone needed to harden up and adapt it was gankers, but no whining to CCP, classic… ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/484 "2020-08-18T16:39:20Z")
Haha, someone sounds JEALOUS that CCP likes ME! hahahaha ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/485 "2020-08-18T16:40:49Z")
Goons were certainly very effective at whining and getting CCP to change the game to their benefit at that point. ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/486 "2020-08-18T17:56:24Z")
Mad you got rekt? ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/487 "2020-08-18T19:17:32Z")
Just highly amused that the gankers went whining to CCP to get a mechanic changed because they could not deal with it. Poor little lambs. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/488 "2020-08-18T19:18:39Z")
Haha, CCP loves the gankers, hahahaha, Dracvlad loses again! I GOT A CAKE! 🍰 ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 11:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/489 "2020-08-18T23:28:39Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Just highly amused that the gankers went whining to CCP to get a mechanic changed because they could not deal with it. Poor little lambs. You can have the old wrecks back if we can revert every other change that CCP has made to ganking over the years at the behest of whiny crybaby carebears. Deal? ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 4:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/490 "2020-08-19T04:12:24Z")
I’ve just spoken with the Mittani, and he agrees to these terms. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 5:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/491 "2020-08-19T05:44:34Z")
That does seem rather lopsided in the favour of gankers, does this also include tethering, loot scooping via DST’s, the buff to the Catalyst due to the removal of the ROF penalty, the addition of the Talos and Tornado, introduction of tags and so on. Typical gankbear request… ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 5:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/492 "2020-08-19T05:46:58Z")
Yes to everything except changes to the destroyers and addition of new BCs. Just because they changed stats or added new ships, doesn’t mean it’s a gank buff. So, how about it? ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/493 "2020-08-19T05:57:40Z")
Go to Player Features and Ideas and let rip with a thread there then. But that -25% ROF change and the two BC’s that are very useful for ganking in terms of cutting cost are super important, so no deal from me on that. You see I think the balance is about right now apart from the consequences to criminals which I think still need work on, and I keep saying it. My point on this mechanic change was that it was the CEO of the main ganking corp of Miniluv who used his connections with CCP to change the game mechanics when people started ganking wrecks. This is a case where people whined and got the game changed because they could not deal with it, and there was me thinking that you did not like this sort of thing? Silly me, the hypocrisy is reeking from your reply and added even more to my enjoyment in pointing out just how whiny gankbears are. 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 6:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/494 "2020-08-19T06:06:37Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Go to Player Features and Ideas and let rip with a thread there then. > > But that -25% ROF change and the two BC’s that are very useful for ganking in terms of cutting cost are super important, so no deal from me on that. > > You see I think the balance is about right now apart from the consequences to criminals which I think still need work on, and I keep saying it. My proposal to you actually works in your favor, because I take ship stats out of the equation. You want to roll back ship stats? Fine. We’re going to roll back the barge EHP buffs that happened _twice_, and bring freighters back to when they had about 120,000 EHP. And all the haulers to when they were paper-thin. All better? Sign on the dotted line. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > My point on this mechanic change was that it was the CEO of the main ganking corp of Miniluv who used his connections with CCP to change the game mechanics when people started ganking wrecks. This is a case where people whined and got the game changed because they could not deal with it, and there was me thinking that you did not like this sort of thing? Silly me, the hypocrisy is reeking from your reply and added even more to my enjoyment in pointing out just how whiny gankbears are. 😂 That’s some crazy-ass tinfoil right there. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/495 "2020-08-19T06:09:05Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > That’s some crazy-ass tinfoil right there. The one wearing the tinfoil is you, this is a well known event where gankbears whined about a mechanic when players started doing something and got it changed in their favour, I thought you hated this sort of thing? ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/496 "2020-08-19T06:11:05Z")
Yeah, whatever. You’re like _the_ biggest coward on this forum. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 6:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/497 "2020-08-19T06:19:44Z")
So says someone who has not shot anything since 2014. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 6:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/498 "2020-08-19T06:22:02Z")
You’re gonna have to stop drawing from that well at some point. You’ve already received all the details you need, multiple times. What’s your end goal with these exchanges? Every single time, you end up digging a hole for yourself, and then leaving in shame. Are you a masochist or something? ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 6:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/499 "2020-08-19T06:24:00Z")
Well you came into a bit of banter between me and CODE players which has been going on for some time and stuck your nose in and then ask me to stop, irony much! 😂 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461.md?page=23) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461.md?page=25)