# Uedama anti-gank

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [May 23, 2020, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461 "2020-05-23T18:53:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/r-0-b-0-c-o-p/32/474175_2.png) [@R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/R-0-B-0-C-O-P)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 12:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/802 "2021-04-12T00:30:19Z")

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> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#):
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> Yes, but you have to remember, you’re a ganker, so in the eyes of the white knights, you deserve it. If you just chose to play differently, you wouldn’t receive these threats, just by being in system, so it’s really your fault.

Nah you’re wrong here. I get that I’m playing the “bad guy” but does that justify real life threats? Surely you don’t think it does.

> [@Renly\_Rohan](#):
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> In fact, I have little doubt that quite a few gankers absolutely LOVE to get that sort of response. What could be saltier than a death threat? And look what Robocop said himself. He claims to gank to expose “such people”. Well he succeeded. And now he wants a hug?

While I find responses like this humorous, it’s still a serious matter. Is it not the reason why GigX was banned forever when he told The Judge that he was going to cut his hands off? You never know the lengths that some crazy person on the internet will go to in order to do… crazy things to people in real life.

I don’t need nor do I want a hug. I’m here showing you that while I get accused of hurting people feelings that here’s a real reason to be upset at something. The burden you bear from me poking fun is nothing in the face of real life threats day in and day out. A good example of how people can’t separate real life from a video game.

> [@Renly\_Rohan](#):
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> When someone says “If you play with fire you will get burned” they are not saying it in support of the fire, nor are they saying you should be denied medical treatment. But they are definitely saying they are not going to offer you moral support.

I mean am I not play the game within the confines of what is approved by CCP? I’m playing a video game. I’m playing it in a way that you dislike and actively oppose. You say that people that participate in this facet of gameplay suffer from a multitude of mental and personality disorders. Yes here we are in 2021 and CCP still wants ganking in their game!

What fire am I playing with? What actions of mine justify a response like this in which you can’t condemn them and actively support my opposition to such reactions? Instead you choose to point out that I’ve made my bed and I can lie in it.

You bunch are crazy man.

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/803 "2021-04-12T00:34:26Z")

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> [@R-0-B-0-C-O-P](#):
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> Surely you don’t think it does.

Should have added the /s I guess.

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**Author:** ![R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/r-0-b-0-c-o-p/32/474175_2.png) [@R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/R-0-B-0-C-O-P)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 12:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/804 "2021-04-12T00:40:33Z")

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> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#):
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> Should have added the /s I guess.

Oof I totally walked right into a wall of sarcasm lol. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 1:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/805 "2021-04-12T01:34:02Z")

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> [@Renly\_Rohan](#):
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> > [@Scipio\_Artelius](#):
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> > Yes, but you have to remember, you’re a ganker, so in the eyes of the white knights, you deserve it.
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> False.
> 
> When someone says “If you play with fire you will get burned” they are not saying it in support of the fire, nor are they saying you should be denied medical treatment. But they are definitely saying they are not going to offer you moral support.
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> In fact, I have little doubt that quite a few gankers absolutely LOVE to get that sort of response. What could be saltier than a death threat? And look what Robocop said himself. He claims to gank to expose “such people”. Well he succeeded. And now he wants a hug?
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> Anyway, maybe that was in character? Or is it more fun to assume its IRL?

It’s like you’re dancing around the cusp of saying that playing a villain in a fictional environment is a worse thing to do than to threaten someone’s life/safety over what happens in a video game, but there’s still some tiny part of your conscience buried deep inside that still has some rationality, and is preventing you from engaging in balls-out victim-blaming.

Some mental gymnastics will have to be performed to determine who’s worse: the video game ganker, or someone threatening to molest your children because you blew up their pixel spaceship.

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 2:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/806 "2021-04-12T02:30:05Z")

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> [@R-0-B-0-C-O-P](#):
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> I get that I’m playing the “bad guy” but does that justify real life threats?

I wonder how much of people’s reaction is cultural. I have noticed how some East European’s struggle with female authority at work , how people from USA or maybe parts of it seem rude to each other when talking . A polish girl friend of mine tells her guys when English people are in ear shot " Guy’s happy talk remember " .

I’m no expert but a lot of what we get could be this , what do people think ,made all the worse by people who don’t mix with other Nations.

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**Author:** ![R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/r-0-b-0-c-o-p/32/474175_2.png) [@R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/R-0-B-0-C-O-P)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 2:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/807 "2021-04-12T02:37:54Z")

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I mean I understand where you’re coming from but what you’re suggesting ought to be subtle differences in interaction. I don’t know where in the world it’s socially acceptable to say what that dude said.

So yeah even for someone that has a difficult time accepting women in a position of power or superiority because it’s engrained in their culture doesn’t give them a pass to threaten someone.

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I also get that there’s a fine line between jokes and hate speech. If the audience isn’t sure if it’s in the context of a joke then don’t be surprised if something is perceived as hate speech.

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**Author:** ![R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/r-0-b-0-c-o-p/32/474175_2.png) [@R-0-B-0-C-O-P](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/R-0-B-0-C-O-P)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 2:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/808 "2021-04-12T02:42:55Z")

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I will also maybe concede that Google Translate may not but 100% accurate when translating from moon runes to English.

So maybe this wasn’t a threat! Either way I’ll let CCP decide and if it indeed is translated as a real life threat then I hope he’s banned forever. 😉

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 2:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/809 "2021-04-12T02:44:12Z")

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Oh yes not saying any of it is right but I have learnt over time the reaction I’ll get from provoking a Russian compared to an American will be different and with all social restraints removed because it’s a game people get carried away.

Maybe

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 2:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/810 "2021-04-12T02:48:09Z")

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> [@R-0-B-0-C-O-P](#):
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> Translate may not but 100% accurate when translating from moon runes to English

Lol moon runes , but yes people need to learn , it’s a game with a mix from all over the world.

Makes me glad I don’t work for the UN ☺

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**Author:** ![doodel\_danger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/doodel_danger/32/254134_2.png) [@doodel\_danger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/doodel_danger)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 4:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/811 "2021-04-12T04:14:43Z")

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Best way to antigank would be just to have a crap ton of T2 repair cruisers or something like that wouldn’t it? Don’t really need to shoot them

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**Author:** ![Mitsuko\_Chan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mitsuko_chan/32/385970_2.png) [@Mitsuko\_Chan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mitsuko_Chan)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 5:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/812 "2021-04-12T05:40:13Z")

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> [@R-0-B-0-C-O-P](#):
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> I get stuff like this daily

I have doubts you’re getting death threats daily as Eve isn’t quite so full with unstable players such as Boroda, I’d say this leans towards an extreme response. Nevertheless, his/her response is not normal and I hope they are given a short ban (if a first offence).

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 5:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/814 "2021-04-12T05:56:33Z")

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Of course not , I’m with you on this one and you was right to report him.

Why are you even asking or are you trying to bait, can we get back to the game you lowlife pirate

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**Author:** ![Cel\_ah\_Vee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cel_ah_vee/32/266253_2.png) [@Cel\_ah\_Vee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cel_ah_Vee)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 6:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/815 "2021-04-12T06:10:03Z")

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> [@Renly\_Rohan](#):
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> And none to post anything at all ever again

You wish… You have no power here whatsoever to insist I do anything so go sit down and be quiet.

> [@Renly\_Rohan](#):
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> If you don’t want to be constructive for free, by all means don’t be.

I was being facetious, learn the nuance of a language before having knee-jerk reactions.

> [@Renly\_Rohan](#):
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> The door is over there

Where? 🧐 I see no door, only your trap moving uselessly 🤓

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/816 "2021-04-12T08:12:15Z")

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> [@Mitsuko\_Chan](#):
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> I have doubts you’re getting death threats daily as Eve isn’t quite so full with unstable players such as Boroda

HAHAHA

Oh, sweetie, you have **no** idea.

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**Author:** ![Renly\_Rohan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/renly_rohan/32/402846_2.png) [@Renly\_Rohan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Renly_Rohan)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/817 "2021-04-12T10:42:38Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> Oh, sweetie, you have **no** idea.

Correct.

We don’t have access to anyone else’s inbox. And our trust of some folks is understandably limited.

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**Author:** ![Renly\_Rohan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/renly_rohan/32/402846_2.png) [@Renly\_Rohan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Renly_Rohan)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/818 "2021-04-12T10:44:57Z")

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You just stepped in deep doo doo ROBOCOP. Discussion of the “R” word is completely forbidden here. You may discuss killing and keeping corpses freely however. This site is rated PG after all, and killing is wholesome family fun. (groan) Even the death threats you mentioned are more kosher here. I am not going to report you but truth be told, its probably not necessary. Brace for a slap. I got it a couple times myself.

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**Author:** ![Wah\_Huren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wah_huren/32/394699_2.png) [@Wah\_Huren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wah_Huren)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/819 "2021-04-12T20:06:39Z")

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![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/b/9/8b9d923dd97b46870b4a6821083ab4e1aa8b6eea.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Mitsuko\_Chan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mitsuko_chan/32/385970_2.png) [@Mitsuko\_Chan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mitsuko_Chan)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/820 "2021-04-12T22:17:54Z")

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As a player of circa 14 years and 100+ characters I’d like to think I have some idea or maybe I’m naive as suggested 🤷

I’d like to imagine I’m not playing a game with a vastly unstable player base, fairly certain that’s not the case 🤔

#BanBoroda

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/821 "2021-04-12T22:20:16Z")

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Now I want popcorn

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/822 "2021-04-12T22:21:19Z")

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> [@Mitsuko\_Chan](#):
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> As a player of circa 14 years and 100+ characters I’d like to think I have some idea or maybe I’m naive as suggested 🤷
> 
> I’d like to imagine I’m not playing a game with a vastly unstable player base, fairly certain that’s not the case 🤔

Start ganking/doing wars, you’ll find out very quickly. Unless you’re telling me that you have been, and haven’t seen many such responses, in which case I would say that you’ve had an atypical experience.

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