# Uedama anti-gank **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [May 23, 2020, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461 "2020-05-23T18:53:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 57
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2021, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1143 "2021-08-11T07:43:44Z")
But her hair stays dry ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2021, 4:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1144 "2021-08-12T04:23:00Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > I contacted 1 freighter pilot who warped out by the skin of his teeth, > [@Githany\_Red](#): > > So don’t believe what Code and Co. say , that all anti-gank is ineffective, … one freighter so effective. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2021, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1145 "2021-08-12T06:37:48Z")
One of my AG mates runs a fleet of Ospreys, he saves rather a lot, it takes a multi-boxer to defeat a multi-boxer… I can assure you however it is a lot harder for him to save them as compared to the ganker to blowing them up. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2021, 7:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1146 "2021-08-12T07:24:43Z")
> [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](#): > > one freighter so effective. That was an example of many, it would be boring to list all, we even saved a ship from a Safety +Kusion gank , not an easy task, @Aiko_Danuja even denied it was a fail when I said in local “oh dear a ganker fail” As the smoking freighter warped off Why we fail less, you fail more . I presume your a ganker troll , ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2021, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1147 "2021-08-12T13:28:18Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > I presume your a ganker troll , Not even once ---
**Author:** ![Bob\_Painter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bob_painter/32/417556_2.png) [@Bob\_Painter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bob_Painter)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2021, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1148 "2021-08-12T15:32:58Z")
haven’t seen him save anything in perimeter lately ---
**Author:** ![Mandalf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mandalf/32/278086_2.png) [@Mandalf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mandalf)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2021, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1149 "2021-08-12T21:42:15Z")
If AG fails every time a ganker ganks, are gankers failing every time a hauler warps through a system? Or every time a miner drops a full cargo of ore? If this is the case then gankers fail way more often than AG, right? ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2021, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1150 "2021-08-12T21:59:46Z")
I see you have a new fleet there , I must say I like your old pilots named , not the new ones, 1,2,3,4😬 Still, very impressive on the numbers you muster but then you need to work fast and have numbers because of perimeter SS I look forward to seeing the Painter fleet around the TTT soon . BTW I’m dying to ask are you a painter in real😊 I know Kusion must have a thing about J’s ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2021, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1151 "2021-08-12T22:00:39Z")
Very good point ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2021, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1152 "2021-08-13T06:28:46Z")
6th August he reported that he had saved 4 JF’s with no losses, not sure how often you are there. It does take a multi-boxer to stop a multi-boxer. > [@Mandalf](#): > > If AG fails every time a ganker ganks, are gankers failing every time a hauler warps through a system? Or every time a miner drops a full cargo of ore? > > If this is the case then gankers fail way more often than AG, right? I have said that time and time again. In fact merely stopping someone from jumping through is a save. AG wins hands down. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2021, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1153 "2021-08-13T07:32:56Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > It does take a multi-boxer to stop a multi-boxer. My unsuspecting burst stops multi-boxers and makes Aiko change fits We are going to try a mass burst soon that should be fun. Was thinking 2 or 3 per gank with a firing delay ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2021, 8:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1154 "2021-08-13T08:57:41Z")
Burst ECM is very weak, so having several is a good idea. You should mix it with some of your fleet out of the burst range equipped with tracking disruptors with optimal range scripts if you have numbers, it can really cut their DPS. Though as it is Perimeter which is a high security system they are going to bring large numbers so you are going to have a limited affect due to time so multiple bursts is perhaps the best way, good play though. ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2021, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1155 "2021-08-13T10:58:02Z")
Cool, please announce when you do in Perimeter, I want to watch close. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2021, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1156 "2021-08-13T12:06:15Z")
Ok I’ll mail you , 😝 ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2021, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1157 "2021-08-13T12:12:49Z")
Most probably will shoot you when you go flashy red. 😛 Of course getting in the range of the burst will give them a KR on you so bear that in mind with those characters, and the dreaded security status hit of course, though I am not sure what the hit is for using the ECM burst in hisec. Another mechanic that of course restricts AG counter play at least for the main characters. ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2021, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1158 "2021-08-13T14:52:06Z")
Spoiler 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2021, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1159 "2021-08-14T22:53:39Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Another mechanic that of course restricts AG counter play at least for the main characters. It’s not a “counter-play restriction,” it’s a _necessary game-balancing element_. If you could use ECM bursts without any repercussions, there would be no ganking at all, aside maybe for the alpha strike variant. ---
**Author:** ![Same\_Old\_Topics](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/same_old_topics/32/282720_2.png) [@Same\_Old\_Topics](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Same_Old_Topics)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2021, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1160 "2021-08-15T00:29:28Z")
The game _is_ meant to be dangerous. Risk calculation and all that. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2021, 3:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1161 "2021-08-15T03:29:33Z")
I look at our ew burst alts as gankers make new ganker alts, some we use the clone tags to fix SS, others we use to learn to fly about as -10, it’s actually fun trying to get from place like that. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2021, 7:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1162 "2021-08-15T07:22:49Z")
It is merely explaining why AG players cannot use their mains for this, no need for you to get so uptight and suggest I am complaining about it as a mechanic overall. Seriously…, are you always this upset? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461.md?page=56) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461.md?page=58)