# Uedama anti-gank **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [May 23, 2020, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461 "2020-05-23T18:53:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 68
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1366 "2021-10-25T19:48:48Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > I wonder why people feel the need to debate. CCP has clearly examined the issue, and come to their conclusions. Nothing said here will change that. True…but then the old adage ’ know your enemy’ still holds true so its still useful in terms of understanding the different mindsets and how they work out in Eve. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1367 "2021-10-25T19:52:49Z")
> [@Vladimir\_Norkoff](#): > > You are dealing with Arty Ruptures with no tracking boosts and your boys are letting them sit there stationary. You should be playing ping-pong with their ships and constantly bumping them I’ll try that later this week thxs , got something else to try 1st but I feel once the ping-pong starts he will move sys or log , hoping we will go away , one group has mover all the way to Odin already. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1368 "2021-10-25T20:46:25Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > Local where there may be 40 people and variations of 5 or more quite regularly. Staying in that system sounds lazy to me. Let me guess,theres a compression array available in it? ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1369 "2021-10-25T20:55:37Z")
I’ve no idea why there were 40 people in a region that normally has less than 20 ( and I’ve mined there at 3am and been the only one there ). And I don’t stay in the system. I mine there and sell the ore at a good price in another system…unlike the noobs who sell there and seem happy with 40% below the average rate. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1370 "2021-10-25T20:58:23Z")
Right, so you do see that lazy very much does apply to some people. Im glad its them and not me. Hooray for the lazy, I say ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1371 "2021-10-25T21:03:23Z")
I don’t think those noobs are lazy…I think they are just ignorant of how to look around for the best prices. Even with the increased risk of stargate ganking, its still worth going to the region next door if the price is 50% higher. The increased profit quickly pays for any new ship that might be needed 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1372 "2021-10-25T21:05:34Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > Lol…I’m not the one who’s every post is an exercise in condescension rather than actually responding to the points. Stupid miners. Stupid, stupid, miners. That is effectively your response to everything. And yet it is true. Why is it only the gankers have to put in effort? From your POV, miners should be able to mine from in station in absolute safety LOL. > [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > True…but then the old adage ’ know your enemy’ still holds true so its still useful in terms of understanding the different mindsets and how they work out in Eve. But the miners don’t have to take the time to learn right? ROFL. > [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > I think they are just ignorant So you admit you know they are dumb. Got it. ---
**Author:** ![Vladimir\_Norkoff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vladimir_norkoff/32/432331_2.png) [@Vladimir\_Norkoff](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vladimir_Norkoff)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1373 "2021-10-25T21:40:11Z")
Cilla Cybin, the gift that keeps on giving. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1374 "2021-10-25T22:02:42Z")
She is a bit strange. My main point is the frontline is everywhere. To not practice opsec even in high sec is just asking to get blapped. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 10:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1375 "2021-10-25T22:04:51Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > I don’t think those noobs are lazy Big assumption that they are noobs. ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 11:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1376 "2021-10-25T23:17:20Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > But the miners don’t have to take the time to learn right? ROFL. The usual argument from hindsight…expecting a one day old miner to know all the stuff you know from years in Eve. That is actually half the problem. Oldbies retrospectively place themselves in noobies shoes and of course everything looks so easy ! ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1377 "2021-10-25T23:25:05Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Why is it only the gankers have to put in effort? Oh yes…that solo ganker I saw in a video the other day was putting SO much effort into…er…sitting there at a stargate for hours watching traffic go by and reading ship contents. Gosh…even a miner could cope with that stupendous level of sheer effort ! ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1378 "2021-10-25T23:44:38Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > The usual argument from hindsight…expecting a one day old miner to know all the stuff you know from years in Eve. That is actually half the problem. Oldbies retrospectively place themselves in noobies shoes and of course everything looks so easy ! EVE has been out for 15+ years. If they can’t Google a game that old to learn tactics thru various websites, YT and other sources, they should chuck their comp into the ocean. Before I play a game, I google guides extensively to learn what I wanna do as to not waste time. But I guess reading is hard huh? > [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > Oh yes…that solo ganker I saw in a video the other day was putting SO much effort into…er…sitting there at a stargate for hours watching traffic go by and reading ship contents. Gosh…even a miner could cope with that stupendous level of sheer effort ! So he was ship scanning with no back up support? In other words he didn’t gank anyone. Got it. ---
**Author:** ![Duella\_Cre\_Vil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duella_cre_vil/32/297348_2.png) [@Duella\_Cre\_Vil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duella_Cre_Vil)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 11:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1379 "2021-10-25T23:45:48Z")
You going to clear the gate at abhazon then? The long route to Jita from Amarr is getting boring XD ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 11:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1380 "2021-10-25T23:58:16Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > EVE has been out for 15+ years. If they can’t Google a game that old to learn tactics thru various websites, YT and other sources, they should chuck their comp into the ocean. Before I play a game, I google guides extensively to learn what I wanna do as to not waste time. But I guess reading is hard huh? Why would anyone ‘learn tactics’ of a game they’re simply looking into to see if they are even interested in the first place ? Oh, and the ganker claimed he was making billions…but most of the time was spent just sitting there watching traffic ( in several accounts…one to pick up any loot, etc ). Which sort of makes me laugh when gankers say mining is boring, yet there’s some guy who’s entire day consists of reading cargo contents and he doesn’t even have a pretty laser to look at 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1381 "2021-10-26T01:00:51Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > Why would anyone ‘learn tactics’ of a game they’re simply looking into to see if they are even interested in the first place ? > > Oh, and the ganker claimed he was making billions…but most of the time was spent just sitting there watching traffic ( in several accounts…one to pick up any loot, etc ). Which sort of makes me laugh when gankers say mining is boring, yet there’s some guy who’s entire day consists of reading cargo contents and he doesn’t even have a pretty laser to look at 🙂 They do make billions. Esp those who are ganking abyss runners. A dude just had a guy donate 6.8 billion to him after ganking him. These peeps gank themselves. Who learns tactics for a game? I dunno maybe someone who enjoys playing them without sucking and so these situations won’t happen to them? Again, if they can’t be bothered to learn basic gameplay, they deserve all the antimatter those catas can pump into them. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 4:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1382 "2021-10-26T04:56:34Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > They do make billions. Esp those who are ganking abyss runners. A dude just had a guy donate 6.8 billion to him after ganking him. What’s that all about , did I miss that story. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1383 "2021-10-26T06:09:30Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > What’s that all about , did I miss that story. A safety dude kept ganking a dude on the regular. He then gave 6.8bil to the dude. Happened like two weeks ago ---
**Author:** ![Codename\_Razorback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/codename_razorback/32/486427_2.png) [@Codename\_Razorback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Codename_Razorback)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1384 "2021-10-26T12:40:56Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > He then gave 6.8bil to the dude. It sounds like you’re saying that the ganker gave the gankee ISK. I don’t believe it. Please work on your **syntax** … @Ramona_McCandless 🥰 ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461/1385 "2021-10-26T18:36:39Z")
> [@Codename\_Razorback](#): > > It sounds like you’re saying that the ganker gave the gankee ISK. > > I don’t believe it. > > Please work on your **syntax** … > > @Ramona_McCandless 🥰 I’ve told this story a bunch. And no, the gankee gave the ganker the money. He posted proof. A dude last night brought an athanor and a core thru Uedama in an untanked T1 indy. The core dropped upon gank. They gank themselves dude. Part of the reason AGing is so thankless is because much of high sec is not smart and can barely play the game. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461.md?page=67) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uedama-anti-gank/243461.md?page=69)