# Uncollateralized Loans 150b 5% 1-2months 👨‍💼

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**Category:** Market Discussions\
**Created:** [May 11, 2018, 3:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uncollateralized-loans-150b-5-1-2months/75595 "2018-05-11T03:35:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Alpha\_Askiras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alpha_askiras/32/51661_2.png) [@Alpha\_Askiras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alpha_Askiras)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2018, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uncollateralized-loans-150b-5-1-2months/75595/21 "2018-06-06T22:28:06Z")

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If you get a loan from someone, what’s forcing you to pay back the loan after they transfer the isk? If you had history, your trustworthiness would be at stake and scamming someone would ruin your reputation, which takes time and effort to build. You’re not providing collateral, so that’s obviously not going to keep you from taking the isk and running. What exactly will force you to pay back the loan?

> [@Captainamazing](#):
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> i do 20B collateral loans with my friends now.

Why not just use the 20b to start off? It should be plenty for buying gila blueprints.

> [@Admiral\_Algos](#):
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> now my total assets are about 230B (fixed assets 130B + In the sale 80B + cash 20b).  
> and  
> i want to expand the size of this businesses

Also why don’t you offer collateral? If you offered your 130b as collateral and transferred to a trusted third party, you could easily get a 110-120b loan which added to the 20b loan you’re doing with your “friends” should be enough for your investment.

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**Author:** ![Captainamazing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/captainamazing/32/329337_2.png) [@Captainamazing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Captainamazing)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 2:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uncollateralized-loans-150b-5-1-2months/75595/22 "2018-06-09T02:36:34Z")

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130b is fixed assets  
can not sell ,it is my sp farming char

and now  
gila price is from 280m up to 320m . 😋😋😋😋

look my 3day ago say :

and i think gila ship pirce will still up

maybe up to 350m 10days later.

you can see everyday more and more gila lost in abyss : [https://zkillboard.com/kills/abyssal/](https://zkillboard.com/kills/abyssal/)

i give a formula

220M \* (300ship/day+500ship/day) / 500ship/day = 352M

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2018, 2:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/uncollateralized-loans-150b-5-1-2months/75595/23 "2018-09-07T02:36:34Z")

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