# Undue loss of security standing due to AoE Point Defense Guns on citadel **URL:** \ **Category:** Assembly Hall\ **Created:** [February 27, 2019, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/undue-loss-of-security-standing-due-to-aoe-point-defense-guns-on-citadel/142864 "2019-02-27T14:52:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 8
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2019, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/undue-loss-of-security-standing-due-to-aoe-point-defense-guns-on-citadel/142864/8 "2019-03-03T11:44:45Z")
Reading and research is hard. > [@Undue security loss for defending my alliance's station](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/undue-security-loss-for-defending-my-alliances-station/142658): > > I agreed to man the guns of our Tatara when fighting for its survival yesterday. Mostly by diligent use of the POINT DEFENSE GUNS I managed to kill off a substantial number of agressors. However these were not noted as kills - which basically would be fine. What is not fine is that my character took heavy security status loss, despite being “anonymous” to the kills. Actually the loss is so heavy that this character cannot even fullfill its most basic function as a travelling cyno provide… --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/undue-loss-of-security-standing-due-to-aoe-point-defense-guns-on-citadel/142864)._