# Unplayable Garbage

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unplayable-garbage/521897>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [November 10, 2026, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unplayable-garbage/521897 "2026-11-10T15:42:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Starcleric](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/starcleric/32/518422_2.png) [@Starcleric](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Starcleric)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2026, 12:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unplayable-garbage/521897/21 "2026-11-11T00:35:35Z")

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I was waiting to go to work so I chose to engage in a thankless loveless task to prepare myself for the day.

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**Author:** ![Starcleric](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/starcleric/32/518422_2.png) [@Starcleric](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Starcleric)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2026, 12:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unplayable-garbage/521897/22 "2026-11-11T00:36:11Z")

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YES! Look at the frigging thing!

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**Author:** ![Starcleric](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/starcleric/32/518422_2.png) [@Starcleric](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Starcleric)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2026, 12:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unplayable-garbage/521897/23 "2026-11-11T00:39:51Z")

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[Prowler, Paper Boy]  
Inertial Stabilizers II  
Inertial Stabilizers II  
Inertial Stabilizers II

50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive  
Medium Shield Extender II  
Explosive Shield Amplifier II

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II  
Interdiction Nullifier I

Medium Cargohold Optimization II  
Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing II

Exotic Dancers, Male x20

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**Author:** ![Murder\_Maid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/murder_maid/32/515993_2.png) [@Murder\_Maid](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Murder_Maid)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2026, 1:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unplayable-garbage/521897/24 "2026-11-11T01:45:06Z")

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These fits are unplayable garbage, I don’t see any mining permits in your inventory.

Get your paperwork in order!

🚨🧾🚨

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**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2026, 2:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unplayable-garbage/521897/25 "2026-11-11T02:07:40Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> I still have plenty of real estate. I like it.

Yeah, I don’t have the problem with HUD size that some mention either. There are some issues to deal with when it comes to HUD, but it looks normal to me size-wise (and I play on 2880 x 1800 resolution at 100%).

I was worried about empty space between slots before I got on today, as I saw multiple players expressing concern about that, but it looks normal to me.

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/517379_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2026, 2:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unplayable-garbage/521897/26 "2026-11-11T02:18:34Z")

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> [@Murder\_Maid](#):
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> Get your paperwork in order

Nah. Part of the fun of mining is being a rebel about it. The rest of the fun is knowing no one can do anything about it!

But next time that I mine, you can stop by and give me a stern warning. 😄

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**Author:** ![Murder\_Maid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/murder_maid/32/515993_2.png) [@Murder\_Maid](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Murder_Maid)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2026, 2:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unplayable-garbage/521897/27 "2026-11-11T02:41:24Z")

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Maybe I should, if I see you around sometime.

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**Author:** ![Starcleric](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/starcleric/32/518422_2.png) [@Starcleric](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Starcleric)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2026, 2:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unplayable-garbage/521897/28 "2026-11-11T02:52:27Z")

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Uh, Male Dancers? Hello. Do you even have a ganking permit?

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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/515931_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2026, 4:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unplayable-garbage/521897/29 "2026-11-11T04:11:28Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> It would be a very easy kill.

> [@Murder\_Maid](#):
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> that looks like a free meal an easy meal a free easy meal.

[Starcleric | Kills | Character | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/character/2117276725/kills/) nah. his is not an idiot. It’s a bait.

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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/515931_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2026, 4:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unplayable-garbage/521897/30 "2026-11-11T04:19:45Z")

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> [@Starcleric](#):
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> Do you even have a ganking permit?

is this a wardec against safety.? 🤭

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**Author:** ![Aallin\_Gicquet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aallin_gicquet/32/510703_2.png) [@Aallin\_Gicquet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aallin_Gicquet)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2026, 4:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unplayable-garbage/521897/31 "2026-11-11T04:35:54Z")

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Where did you get that fit? Three stabilizers.. Seriously? You wasted slots on that? You do know that having three is a waste. It is not doing you any good.

Second those shield extenders might look great on paper, but in all seriousness with the cargo hold optimizers. You have not gained anything. I also have questions on why you thought polycarbon engine housing was good idea. The only thing about your fit that I find even remotely useful the covert op cloaking device and maybe the interdiction Nullifier.

Though the 20 exotic male dancers are a nice touch.

I think this is what you were really aiming for..

> **[EVE Workbench](https://eveworkbench.com/fit/038323db-0b6c-4c50-a1b6-a49755bcff96)**

Note that this fit uses only two inertial stabilizers with a warp core stabilizer rigs. Which is what you want to go a touch faster off the mark. The shield hardener 2. Instead of that 50mnT-t8 compact microwarpdrive (which is not giving you any real push anyways.) this fit is using a 10MN afterburner. Which in this case is all you need.

I get it that Isk can be a little tight and affording a ship is one thing and trying to fit it properly can be a battle all on it’s own. In all honesty though. Your fit as you have it now. Is going to not get you out of any trouble. In fact you are going to find it was the cause of you losing that ship. While I am sure you have had a few close calls. But here is something to remeber. When you have more than one of the same module. You are losing benefits from the first one. The exception is that having two of the same one can be a good tradeoff, if done right. As in the rigs as was done here.

Three of the same module is never a good idea. In fact I would have to look far and wide before finding anyone that did. Even then I would avoid it. Because three modules is doing one more harm than good.

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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/515931_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2026, 4:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unplayable-garbage/521897/32 "2026-11-11T04:39:44Z")

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his definitely not a miner. 😉

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**Author:** ![Murder\_Maid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/murder_maid/32/515993_2.png) [@Murder\_Maid](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Murder_Maid)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2026, 4:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unplayable-garbage/521897/33 "2026-11-11T04:43:03Z")

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Besides Im finished with mining, I gave my permit to Gloria I’m not trying to buy votes or anything.

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**Author:** ![Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_lord_trump/32/411482_2.png) [@Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Lord_Trump)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2026, 5:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unplayable-garbage/521897/34 "2026-11-11T05:35:26Z")

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3 stabilizers shaves a second off your align time. That’s a second less that your enemy has to decloak you, lock you, and tackle you. That WCS won’t do anything against a faction scram anyway. That MWD also moves you roughly three times as fast as the afterburner, which might also save you if you need to burn back to gate. Shield extenders are relevant in highsec for tornadoes. Cargohold rig should be obvious in purpose. The only thing you got right was that the polycarbon is useless. 2/10.

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2026, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unplayable-garbage/521897/35 "2026-11-11T09:55:44Z")

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It really is astounding how the most clueless people sound the most confident in their statements.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2026, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unplayable-garbage/521897/36 "2026-11-11T10:08:54Z")

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> [@Aallin\_Gicquet](#):
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> Where did you get that fit? Three stabilizers.. Seriously? You wasted slots on that? You do know that having three is a waste. It is not doing you any good.

All my blockade runners, Prowlers and Viators, use three inertial stabilizers to get align time to 3s.

Minimizing your align time to 3 seconds is the best second defence layer you have after your covert cloak, with the third layer being a nullifier.

Other low slots like damage control or warp core stabilizers are only useful when you already are targeted, which usually is too late and is what the inertial stabilizers are meant to avoid. Warp core stabilizers are way too easily countered with faction scrams, extra points, bubbles etc. to be a reliable defense, unlike aligning a second faster which is _huge_.

The only good alternative to an inertial stabilizer on a BR is a cargo expander if you are willing to increase your risk in order to carry larger cargo.

For even better low slot defense modules you could bling those three inertial stabs and add a Nomad implant set to push align time below 2s.

The only thing I’d change to that fit is the polycarbon rig for a second cargohold rig, once the character’s skills are high enough to get below 3s align with just three inertial stabs.

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**Author:** ![Murder\_Maid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/murder_maid/32/515993_2.png) [@Murder\_Maid](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Murder_Maid)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2026, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unplayable-garbage/521897/37 "2026-11-11T11:27:54Z")

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I have to agree with Dark Lord Trump on this those flimsy inertial stabilizers are getting in the way of choice big daddy iskie mining lazor upgrades every competent miner forgoes shield annnnd warp for maximum yield.

The mining meta is very simple

Maximum Yield = Maximum Tears

Now that you all have been properly educated.

Do better guys…

Do better.

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**Author:** ![Starcleric](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/starcleric/32/518422_2.png) [@Starcleric](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Starcleric)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2026, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unplayable-garbage/521897/38 "2026-11-11T12:32:34Z")

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Well why don’t we just pull our haulers out and we’ll measure them?

Do you think perhaps that there might be some subtle differences in the fits we shared which may further indicate their intended roles? Like for example I shared a 100 mil Empire blockade runner with just barely enough cargo to haul a pair of frigates and their fits. You shared an xbox hueg zillion dollar one designed for taking suggestive screenshots with metenox drills…

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**Author:** ![Starcleric](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/starcleric/32/518422_2.png) [@Starcleric](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Starcleric)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2026, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unplayable-garbage/521897/39 "2026-11-11T12:34:31Z")

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It clearly says on zkill that I’m a mostly snuggly logi pilot… mostly.

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/517379_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2026, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unplayable-garbage/521897/40 "2026-11-11T13:12:28Z")

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> [@Murder\_Maid](#):
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> The mining meta is very simple
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> Maximum Yield = Maximum Tears
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> Now that you all have been properly educated.
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> Do better guys…
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> Do better.

Be more like me. 🙂

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