# Unstable Abyssal Depths Claims It's First 1 Trillion ISK

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unstable-abyssal-depths-claims-its-first-1-trillion-isk/80138>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [June 2, 2018, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unstable-abyssal-depths-claims-its-first-1-trillion-isk/80138 "2018-06-02T13:52:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2018, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unstable-abyssal-depths-claims-its-first-1-trillion-isk/80138/1 "2018-06-02T13:52:45Z")

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Ship and pod losses due to “Unstable Abyssal Depths” have just reached the 1 Trillion ISK mark in only 5 days. This isn’t counting losses due to being killed by a Triglavian or Drifter NPC in the Abyss, or getting ganked upon exiting the Abyss, which accounts for many more billions of ISK in loss…

> **[Unstable Abyssal Depths | Ship](https://zkillboard.com/ship/47465/stats/)**
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> Unstable Abyssal Depths: 2,858 ships destroyed and 0 ships lost.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2018, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unstable-abyssal-depths-claims-its-first-1-trillion-isk/80138/2 "2018-06-02T13:55:51Z")

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> [@QuakeGod](#):
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> This isn’t counting losses due to being killed by a Triglavian or Drifter NPC in the Abyss

I found out also there is this statistic below. But I dont know how its working really to killmail.

> **[Abyssal Spaceship Entities | Group](https://zkillboard.com/group/1982/)**
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> Abyssal Spaceship Entities: 7,642 ships destroyed and 0 ships lost.

Here its nearly 1,5T.

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Sakimura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_sakimura/32/382213_2.png) [@ISD\_Sakimura](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Sakimura)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2018, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unstable-abyssal-depths-claims-its-first-1-trillion-isk/80138/3 "2018-06-02T15:22:45Z")

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Those statistics are somewhat inaccurate… 1786 ships destroyed yet only 1516 pods, how could the collapse of the Abyssal space pocket fail to destroy more than 250 pods!?

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**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2018, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unstable-abyssal-depths-claims-its-first-1-trillion-isk/80138/4 "2018-06-02T15:26:31Z")

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It’s easy… CCP. 🤷‍♀️

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2018, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unstable-abyssal-depths-claims-its-first-1-trillion-isk/80138/5 "2018-06-02T15:28:39Z")

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Probably some kills are not shown. I have seen that before. I dont think its CCP, rather something with the site and how it gathers data.

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**Author:** ![Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chainsaw_plankton/32/256180_2.png) [@Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chainsaw_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2018, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unstable-abyssal-depths-claims-its-first-1-trillion-isk/80138/6 "2018-06-02T16:51:23Z")

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> [@ISD\_Sakimura](#):
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> Those statistics are somewhat inaccurate

well yea it’s zkill so people have to have a personal or corp API on zkill for it to fetch most kills, you can manually add kills too if you copy/paste the kill link into zkill.

My API isn’t in the system so (almost) none of my NPC losses are on there. Most of my player losses are there as those players have their API in the system, but it’s still missing some. Pretty similar with my kills,

That said looking forward to some official numbers as I’m sure zkill is missing a bunch of losses.

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**Author:** ![Brewlar\_Kuvakei](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brewlar_kuvakei/32/422694_2.png) [@Brewlar\_Kuvakei](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brewlar_Kuvakei)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2018, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unstable-abyssal-depths-claims-its-first-1-trillion-isk/80138/7 "2018-06-02T16:51:29Z")

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With CCP reimbursement rates at 80% we still have a long way to go before ‘‘1 Trillion isk is killed’’.

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**Author:** ![Brewlar\_Kuvakei](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brewlar_kuvakei/32/422694_2.png) [@Brewlar\_Kuvakei](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brewlar_Kuvakei)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2018, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unstable-abyssal-depths-claims-its-first-1-trillion-isk/80138/8 "2018-06-02T16:52:40Z")

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> [@ISD\_Sakimura](#):
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> Those statistics are somewhat inaccurate… 1786 ships destroyed yet only 1516 pods, how could the collapse of the Abyssal space pocket fail to destroy more than 250 pods!?

Downtime will have seen some pods saved from destroyed ships.

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**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2018, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unstable-abyssal-depths-claims-its-first-1-trillion-isk/80138/9 "2018-06-02T16:53:24Z")

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> [@Brewlar\_Kuvakei](#):
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> With CCP reimbursement rates at 80% we still have a long way to go before ‘‘1 Trillion isk is killed’’.

I’m fairly certain the reimbursement rates for Abyssal-related incidents is far less than 80%…

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**Author:** ![Brewlar\_Kuvakei](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brewlar_kuvakei/32/422694_2.png) [@Brewlar\_Kuvakei](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brewlar_Kuvakei)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2018, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unstable-abyssal-depths-claims-its-first-1-trillion-isk/80138/10 "2018-06-02T16:55:41Z")

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I see no reason or cause to believe that Abyssal reimbursements would differ from K or W space.

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**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2018, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unstable-abyssal-depths-claims-its-first-1-trillion-isk/80138/11 "2018-06-02T16:56:51Z")

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One thing is for certain: the reimbursement rate for bricked Faction, Deadspace and Officer modules is zero.

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**Author:** ![Brewlar\_Kuvakei](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brewlar_kuvakei/32/422694_2.png) [@Brewlar\_Kuvakei](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brewlar_Kuvakei)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unstable-abyssal-depths-claims-its-first-1-trillion-isk/80138/12 "2018-06-02T16:57:40Z")

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I hope so… but you know CCP.

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**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2018, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unstable-abyssal-depths-claims-its-first-1-trillion-isk/80138/13 "2018-06-02T17:25:32Z")

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Those are PVE records. It’s very possible that not all destroyed ships and pods are on that board. I believe, the overall destruction there can pass 2T ISK.

I want to see an accurate report by CCP about Abyss, monthly one or that one at EVE Vegas or something.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unstable-abyssal-depths-claims-its-first-1-trillion-isk/80138/14 "2018-08-31T17:25:32Z")

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