# Unsubscribe if your not happy! **URL:** \ **Category:** Out Of Pod Experience\ **Created:** [September 27, 2020, 4:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unsubscribe-if-your-not-happy/269773 "2020-09-27T04:19:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![LazzBee\_Frans](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lazzbee_frans/32/228330_2.png) [@LazzBee\_Frans](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LazzBee_Frans)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2020, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unsubscribe-if-your-not-happy/269773/42 "2020-09-27T21:42:18Z")
I don’t want to rat , I want to make stuff they gave us the ability to make characters to just do that. If you can make that on one character, then maybe I should be able to make more too… But don’t worry they are coming after ratting too. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2020, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unsubscribe-if-your-not-happy/269773/43 "2020-09-27T21:46:16Z")
> [@LazzBee\_Frans](#): > > But don’t worry they are coming after ratting too. [citation needed] ---
**Author:** ![Scarlet\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scarlet_starfire/32/244125_2.png) [@Scarlet\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scarlet_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 12:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unsubscribe-if-your-not-happy/269773/44 "2020-09-28T00:09:27Z")
> [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](#): > > What are all these threads supposed to achieve? > > If you don’t like a product, then stop **consuming** it. The bottom line is what drives CCP’s business decisions, not some random **whine** thread on an online forum. Consuming wine sounds better. Still if you don’t like the whine don’t read it. Edit: What’s a whine post about a whine post likely to achieve? 2 whines don’t make it any better. Or a whine post about a whine post about a whine post. Hmm, maybe we should just stick with the wine. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 12:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unsubscribe-if-your-not-happy/269773/45 "2020-09-28T00:14:26Z")
> [@Scarlet\_Starfire](#): > > Consuming wine sounds better. 🍺 [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/2/c/2c5fcd065ed0bb1e998e11213004e09a7490f67d.jpeg "OFFICIAL Beer Song by ElbowSkin for Good Beer Week") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNoPMaVUcoI) ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unsubscribe-if-your-not-happy/269773/46 "2020-09-28T00:31:45Z")
You don’t have to rat. Manufacturing will be what it was, resource gathering will be spread out. Is that unusual ? Those who are engaged in tech2 manufacturing in **HiSec** have to buy an important part of the materials on the market (reaction products, you can’t run reactors in hisec - even then you’d have to buy part of the moon goo). It’s a bit more complicated, the proft margins are thinner, but you compensate that with selling what you can extract locally as a surplus. Shortage is not fun to deal with in terms of organizing the work, but also creates opportunities that you can use. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unsubscribe-if-your-not-happy/269773/47 "2020-09-28T00:55:58Z")
> [@LazzBee\_Frans](#): > > It cost me 150 canadian a month Thats your first mistake. > [@LazzBee\_Frans](#): > > I can’t fly my ships because I can’t replace them I dont understand. What the hell does your ISK go to? Youre paying for your accounts, so your ISK doesnt go to Plex. You already seem to have the ships. Where is your ISK going to??? Do you have a secret gambling addiction to the Hypernet Relay or something? > [@LazzBee\_Frans](#): > > So I have some JF skills , now the only way I can use my industry toons is jump freighter stuff , but wait they are extremely expensive and now the minerals to replace those are also more. Or you could hire Blackfrog and other companies to move the stuff for you, at a fraction of the price and zero risk to yourself. Also, the minerals to replace your ships are still there, you can sell them and get ISK. > [@LazzBee\_Frans](#): > > I can’t mine or make against the risk vs reward your offering until the market has a new normal… Its hard to tell if youre talking about hisec or nullsec, but the risks and rewards of Hisec and Nullsec will remain the same. Your minerals that can only be obtained in Nullsec, willl have more value, because it is only available in nullsec and no longer available in hisec. The minerals you can obtain only in Hisec, will have more value because it is only available in Hisec and no longer available in Lowsec. You will make the same amount of ISK in the end, and it will balance itself out, because that is how Supply and Demand works. > [@LazzBee\_Frans](#): > > Make another battleship that moves quick like a cruiser and can support sub cap fleets with some heavier fire power but less hp and firepower than a regular battle ship. I believe these ships already exist, and they are called “battlecruisers”. ---
**Author:** ![Zombie\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zombie_ellecon/32/264152_2.png) [@Zombie\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zombie_Ellecon)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 1:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unsubscribe-if-your-not-happy/269773/48 "2020-09-28T01:09:16Z")
IF YOUR INDUSTRY or UNHAPPY please unsub IF YOUR INDUSTRY or UNHAPPY please unsub IF YOUR INDUSTRY or UNHAPPY, and you really want to show it IF YOUR INDUSTRY or UNHAPPY please unsub. Feel free to add more ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 1:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unsubscribe-if-your-not-happy/269773/49 "2020-09-28T01:13:37Z")
I don’t do indy but I already did I don’t do indy but I already did I don’t do indy and I didn’t want to do it but… I don’t do indy but I already did ---
**Author:** ![Scarlet\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scarlet_starfire/32/244125_2.png) [@Scarlet\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scarlet_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 1:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unsubscribe-if-your-not-happy/269773/50 "2020-09-28T01:27:55Z")
Probably not wise to share this, but this popped into my head whilst reading a few of these last posts. There once was an old goat called Clapper, who sat for a month on the crapper. When he went to flush he grabbed hold of the brush, and went down the hole like the clappers. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 1:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unsubscribe-if-your-not-happy/269773/51 "2020-09-28T01:31:02Z")
Kinda like the game! 🤣 Actually, I dont see the game being that badly hurt by this. ---
**Author:** ![Gaius\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaius_mileghere/32/258417_2.png) [@Gaius\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaius_Mileghere)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 1:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unsubscribe-if-your-not-happy/269773/52 "2020-09-28T01:31:21Z")
OP: if it hurts every time you poke yourself, maybe you’ve got a broken finger. Or, stop poking yourself. Seriously, I saw this on an episode of The Simpsons. The one where Lisa did an experiment for a school project to prove a hamster was smarter than Bart. You’re on the level of Bart. [EDIT: it’s “you’re”, by the way.] ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 1:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unsubscribe-if-your-not-happy/269773/53 "2020-09-28T01:36:47Z")
I can see why CCP pretty much said '_Dont like it? Then quit’._ Players threatening to quit because they can’t play in a little bubble anymore. How do you tell people that’s it’s gonna be hard to miss them when they added ■■■■ all to the game anyway? That they’re actually part of the problem CCP are trying to fix? ---
**Author:** ![Gaius\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaius_mileghere/32/258417_2.png) [@Gaius\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaius_Mileghere)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 1:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unsubscribe-if-your-not-happy/269773/54 "2020-09-28T01:39:44Z")
what about that thing they did near the beginning of the Triglavian arc where suddenly it wasn’t modules that were dropping, but blueprints? Or the recent nerf to sentient spawns? Or the recent nerf to combat anom spawns? Or the nerf to Vexor powergrid not so long back? Or the nerf to supercarriers, where now they can’t use support fighters? Or the NSA nerf which prevents you from warping or jumping? ---
**Author:** ![Asagami](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/asagami/32/257130_2.png) [@Asagami](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Asagami)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 1:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unsubscribe-if-your-not-happy/269773/55 "2020-09-28T01:39:54Z")
I’m understood autor. I’m already chanceled subscribtion on all my 3 account. Maybe if many people unsubscribe, CCP will respect the opinion of the players. ---
**Author:** ![Gaius\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaius_mileghere/32/258417_2.png) [@Gaius\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaius_Mileghere)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 1:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unsubscribe-if-your-not-happy/269773/56 "2020-09-28T01:40:54Z")
inb4 send mi ur stufs. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 1:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unsubscribe-if-your-not-happy/269773/57 "2020-09-28T01:41:39Z")
> [@Mirana\_Icestorm](#): > > Stop bitching at the industrialists, you may be happy now but what if all industry stops from now on? You will have to learn how to make all this yourself, and it takes time. You will have to mine it all yourself… I like to see your face when pvp’rs shoot you down. I dont get it. Why do people think that this is even remotely a good argument? Think about it for a second. First off, the amount of minerals that exist in peoples hangars and on the market already gauruntee a stable market for weeks, perhaps months to come. Secondly, If all the industrialists stop, I would become an industrialist. Because the market would crash and I would make a ■■■■-ton of ISK. And I know for a fact, I wouldnt be the only one. And when the other industrialists who were stupid enough to join in your little crusade wake up, they will scramble to get back into Industry because of all the ISK they would make. And then, they will realize that they were the problem all along. Their never-ending greed and risk-averse gameplay has created a bloated monster of an economy. Thirdly, we are PVPers, so we wont be surprised if PVPers shoot you down, because we already understand how the game works and the risk that is associated with any activity in the game. No PVPer who was hauling items for a friend, ever gets shocked that PVP suddenly exists. Seriously, multiple levels of failure here. > [@Mirana\_Icestorm](#): > > I love EVE dont get me wrong, I’ve barely said a word or posted anything in the last 17-18 years ive been playing… But I see this is affecting a lot of my friends, people I know, people I brought into the game, people I have been teaching the ways in eve. And i just cant bare watching this. Yes. So in other words, CCP has been nerfing and balancing every other aspect of the game, but you remained silent because it didnt affect you. And now that your little bubble is burst, and now that it is your time to face the reckoning of years of lackluster progression and inflated risk/reward, you start this wall of text. Okay. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 1:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unsubscribe-if-your-not-happy/269773/58 "2020-09-28T01:42:31Z")
> [@Asagami](#): > > Maybe if many people unsubscribe, CCP will respect the opinion of the players. Don’t count on it. I watched player lvl’s drop from axp 50k to 20k. That didn’t slow CCP down. ---
**Author:** ![Gaius\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaius_mileghere/32/258417_2.png) [@Gaius\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaius_Mileghere)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 1:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unsubscribe-if-your-not-happy/269773/59 "2020-09-28T01:43:50Z")
“First they came for the Communists, but I am not a Communist so I did not speak out… …then they came for me, and there was nobody left to speak for me.” I forget where that’s from, but it’s apt. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unsubscribe-if-your-not-happy/269773/60 "2020-09-28T01:51:49Z")
> [@Gaius\_Mileghere](#): > > inb4 send mi ur stufs. I never ask quitting carebears for their stuff - it’s tainted with the sin of greed. ---
**Author:** ![Gaius\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaius_mileghere/32/258417_2.png) [@Gaius\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaius_Mileghere)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 1:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unsubscribe-if-your-not-happy/269773/61 "2020-09-28T01:52:28Z")
nah, I was gonna throw it all on t1 hulls and tool around Jita in it [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unsubscribe-if-your-not-happy/269773.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/unsubscribe-if-your-not-happy/269773.md?page=4)