# Upcoming Changes to Drone Aggression

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713>\
**Category:** Upcoming Features & Changes\
**Tags:** pve, drones\
**Created:** [November 25, 2020, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713 "2020-11-25T12:48:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cnda\_Adian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cnda_adian/32/354807_2.png) [@Cnda\_Adian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cnda_Adian)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/269 "2020-11-25T15:58:16Z")

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Warp core stabs should reduce damage by at least 50%

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**Author:** ![VovanSK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vovansk/32/245596_2.png) [@VovanSK](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/VovanSK)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/270 "2020-11-25T15:58:41Z")

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I think a lot of your comments are related to somthing that CCP will do in future (like your mentioning of new AI). But it is not in game yet (on normal anomalies) and they still cant fix cloaky camping for how many years since they promised something about it? What I mean - change anomalies first. introduce new AI etc, then nerf somthing. Currently it looks like it will be nerfed and nothing would be done from your list of “wishes” that you try to present like they are already there.

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**Author:** ![Imiarr\_Timshae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/imiarr_timshae/32/391323_2.png) [@Imiarr\_Timshae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Imiarr_Timshae)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/271 "2020-11-25T16:02:39Z")

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As someone who has run missions for 15 years, I have been hoping for this forever.

But this situation is like this:

Workers: “It is hot down the mine.”  
Bosses: “You’ve now got to work in full clothing, it’s policy.”  
Workers: “Maybe that’s a sign they are going to improve the cooling soon!”

If they intended to do the good thing which justifies/mitigates the bad thing, they would do that first. CCP have repeatedly proven they are willing to make incrementally worse changes and allow rumour of future improvement to limit dissent.

Maybe Fozzie Sov will be iterated on. Maybe COSMOS changes are coming soon. Maybe Lowsec is going to be dealt with.

Most recently “Maybe they only removed Emerging Conduits because they are going to implement better content for Edencom allied capsuleers in the next stage of invasion!”.

I am hopeful too, gradually less each time I have faith in CCP. While I wait, I will be unsubbed.

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**Author:** ![Dictateur\_Imperator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dictateur_imperator/32/452018_2.png) [@Dictateur\_Imperator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dictateur_Imperator)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/272 "2020-11-25T16:05:53Z")

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Maybe maybe they will open the door.

You have forget it.

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**Author:** ![Soldier\_Forrester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/soldier_forrester/32/404576_2.png) [@Soldier\_Forrester](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Soldier_Forrester)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/273 "2020-11-25T16:06:33Z")

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they are currently fixing big problems in the game with the resource scarcity and nerfs, after that they can create new things  
it seems everyone already forgot what injectors and rorquals did to the game and how it put botting and multiboxing into overdrive

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**Author:** ![Minerva\_Arbosa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minerva_arbosa/32/263946_2.png) [@Minerva\_Arbosa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Minerva_Arbosa)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/274 "2020-11-25T16:07:01Z")

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Are qe going to get attack cycles of drones like in Eve Echoes next?

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**Author:** ![Serg\_Sinist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/serg_sinist/32/386249_2.png) [@Serg\_Sinist](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Serg_Sinist)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/275 "2020-11-25T16:08:07Z")

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CCPlease @CCP_Paradox

Add the ability for drones to automatically go to the drone bay if they are injured (medium, severe, near death). And reduce the aggression on fighters so that you can make anomalies in wh on carrier

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**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/277 "2020-11-25T16:14:43Z")

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> [@SleepLacker](#):
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> If you need isk to PvP, then it makes much more sense to buy and sell Plex than to sub more accounts to generate Isk.

I am in nullsec to do capital pvp.  
That can’t be done with just ISK, unless you want to deal with overpricing producers.  
That needs PI for structures and fuel.  
That needs ore to build.  
And a sov bill to uphold.

So nullbear alts are jacks of all trades. They are doing PI, they are doing mining, and they are doing ratting. One dread whelp is at least 40 manhours (at max efficiency) to replace, and an engagement can see tens of them going down, not to mention suiciding them on strategic objectives.

40 hours is little less than my entire month’s play time. Spreading it between my alts is the only way I get to play aside from farming and paying my subscription.

I have no interest in gate camping, station games, stupid ass roaming for crab kills, or other plebian forms of pvp. Real men make timers, and engage on them, get better sov, and scale up their engagements - that was nullsec I wanted to be a part of. It was crushed by blackout, and current changes are like obligatory flowers from the murderers. I am seriously struggling to find my place in eve right now due to it, I don’t want to join a bloc and be F1 monkey there, I don’t want to go to some shitass lowsec ■■■■■■■■ and whelp frigs there like some poor trash. Eve had what I wanted. Now it doesn’t. ■■■■ CCP.

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**Author:** ![Minerva\_Arbosa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minerva_arbosa/32/263946_2.png) [@Minerva\_Arbosa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Minerva_Arbosa)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/278 "2020-11-25T16:15:02Z")

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Why not just remove the toggle from aggressive to passive all together? No need for it anymore with this change? Also where can I send the bag of candy dicks to you Ll to start munching on cause you guys clearly need a few bags of them.

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**Author:** ![Scorp\_Majors](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scorp_majors/32/123732_2.png) [@Scorp\_Majors](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scorp_Majors)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/279 "2020-11-25T16:17:52Z")

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This will bring the falling price of PLEX down even faster. If ratters are no longer buying PLEX with isk, then the price will drop lower. If anyone is holding their PLEX, they should sell now as it will be worth way less after this is implemented. I also encourage everyone to buy ships with the isk as the cost of ships is quickly rising. This will help in the short term, but in the long term, CCP will need to start giving up some carrots if they actually do want to make this game, that they are trying so hard to kill, viable for the next decade.

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**Author:** ![Gluon\_Feynman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gluon_feynman/32/314401_2.png) [@Gluon\_Feynman](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gluon_Feynman)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/280 "2020-11-25T16:24:07Z")

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Bot development just increased 1000%. The bot devs will be rich now.

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**Author:** ![TiliMili\_Tryam](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tilimili_tryam/32/371011_2.png) [@TiliMili\_Tryam](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TiliMili_Tryam)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/281 "2020-11-25T16:27:30Z")

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so salty 😃

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**Author:** ![Dictateur\_Imperator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dictateur_imperator/32/452018_2.png) [@Dictateur\_Imperator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dictateur_Imperator)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/282 "2020-11-25T16:27:45Z")

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They will just use bot for carrier.

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**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/283 "2020-11-25T16:28:11Z")

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So drones will stop going accidentally for sentry guns? Huge improvement. But I still will use aggressive setting with care. I don’t think a lot of people have it on in PvP, so I second what was said above, just remove “aggressive” option all together.

… Miners will not be amused 😉

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**Author:** ![Stalin\_Miky](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stalin_miky/32/379022_2.png) [@Stalin\_Miky](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stalin_Miky)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/284 "2020-11-25T16:31:59Z")

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If a bot program can use a carrier where fighters act the same way drones will do in december, meaning bots can do it, it just means that CCP is basically asking for mandatory bot ratting because players will definitely not spend the time on this anymore. Thx CCP for bringing us the advent of the botting era for Christmas.

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**Author:** ![Dictateur\_Imperator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dictateur_imperator/32/452018_2.png) [@Dictateur\_Imperator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dictateur_Imperator)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/285 "2020-11-25T16:33:44Z")

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For only 5 $ dolalr CCP sell you a legal bot program for eve in december.  
It’s the futur advert we will all receive soon.

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**Author:** ![Sephron\_Tanully](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sephron_tanully/32/278053_2.png) [@Sephron\_Tanully](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sephron_Tanully)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/286 "2020-11-25T16:35:43Z")

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24.99$/month

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**Author:** ![Kazella](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kazella/32/195292_2.png) [@Kazella](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kazella)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/287 "2020-11-25T16:36:22Z")

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So in a Level 4 mission with my battleship I am going to have to target EVERY SINGLE RAT??? Just can put out small drones to deal with the frigate rats???

Boy - that is a lot of negatives in time and click load.

Hmmmm…

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**Author:** ![Stalin\_Miky](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stalin_miky/32/379022_2.png) [@Stalin\_Miky](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stalin_Miky)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/288 "2020-11-25T16:36:23Z")

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CCP does agree that bots can press F1 with a smaller opportunity cost than a real person can, right? So then why would they encourage that?

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**Author:** ![DrZoid\_Berg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drzoid_berg/32/317046_2.png) [@DrZoid\_Berg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrZoid_Berg)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/289 "2020-11-25T16:37:02Z")

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gj buffing bots even more, can’t wait til the war is over and see the sub count nose dive

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