# Upcoming Changes to Drone Aggression **URL:** \ **Category:** Upcoming Features & Changes\ **Tags:** pve, drones\ **Created:** [November 25, 2020, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713 "2020-11-25T12:48:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 80
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/1815 "2020-12-04T20:50:41Z")
> [@StuRyan](#): > > forcing people to sit and press F isn’t making the game more attentive. Compared to alt-tabbing and walking away from the keyboard…yes, it is. ---
**Author:** ![StuRyan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sturyan/32/244322_2.png) [@StuRyan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/StuRyan)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/1816 "2020-12-04T21:16:52Z")
Yeah you’re right. quitting is the right course of action. Done with it now. 7m a tick using missiles and drones. add ESS perhaps 15m per tick if it’s not stolen. my 3 hours playing is going to be “being more attentive” by continually repeating click and pushing keyboard F. Much more entertaining games. ---
**Author:** ![StuRyan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sturyan/32/244322_2.png) [@StuRyan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/StuRyan)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/1817 "2020-12-04T21:18:25Z")
🙂 lol - just caught an afk ratting ishtar guess they’ll become more scarce. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Azariah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_azariah/32/512626_2.png) [@Mike\_Azariah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_Azariah)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/1818 "2020-12-04T21:31:42Z")
Sol, there are times when I wish for a ‘superlike’ button this is one of those times m ---
**Author:** ![Evei\_Shard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/evei_shard/32/245990_2.png) [@Evei\_Shard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Evei_Shard)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/1819 "2020-12-04T21:36:34Z")
> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > Lazy assholes are getting the boot! This. I find the drone agro changes to be a decent compromise between solving afk ratting problems, but not completely killing Drone/Sentry mission ships. Botters/AFK people will adapt, of course, but even if you remove drones from the game completely, people will still find a way to automate. I’m betting that someone could find a way to mechanically switch between ctrl+click, and F1. Just place the mouse over the right spot on a properly set up overview, start it up, and walk away while your missile boat and Goldberg AFK machine auto-target and shoot things. Rediculous as it sounds, that’s just how lazy humans are. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/1820 "2020-12-04T21:51:24Z")
> [@Mike\_Azariah](#): > > Sol, there are times when I wish for a ‘superlike’ button Thank you. 🙂 … Hey, you’re a member of the CSM! Suggest it!! 😃 > [@Evei\_Shard](#): > > Goldberg That’s an odd, but really well placed WCW reference if I ever saw one. ---
**Author:** ![Galvanized](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galvanized/32/244518_2.png) [@Galvanized](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galvanized)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/1821 "2020-12-04T22:09:39Z")
You CSM’s don’t have a clue. Stupid change, I’m glad I Omega’ed my accounts. Until the devs improve the game my accounts will stay Omega’ed. This change doesn’t make you more attentive in game it just makes you push an extra button. Why is AFK ratting an issue? I’ve had loads of fun killing expensive ships because they were AFK. Never mind, another nail in the coffin for this game. ---
**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/1822 "2020-12-04T22:11:03Z")
> [@StuRyan](#): > > Drone aggro nerf…thoughts? My thoughts are: 1. There is an official thread where the announcement was made that you could have used to discuss this, yet you seem to think you deserve a thread of your own for some reason… 2. The reason for the change was very clearly stated in that thread, yet you’ve decided to completely ignore that and pretend that others should tell you _here_ what the reason could be, when you could have simply asked for clarification _there_, if the reason wasn’t clear to you… Now, what does that tell you? To me it tells A LOT about YOU… ---
**Author:** ![Galvanized](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galvanized/32/244518_2.png) [@Galvanized](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galvanized)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/1823 "2020-12-04T22:23:47Z")
Easy tiger who made you forum queeny? Name a forum where people haven’t duplicated a discussion… May be the OP wanted to gather thoughts and debate which very quickly turned into firing shots and sarcastic comments when views and opinions are not on the same path. Understand, a change like this is a big change for people who played the game using drone boats to fund other aspects of the game. Understand instead of ratting for 2 hours to be able to continue to enjoy other forms of the game this change will now mean players taking 10+ hours to generate the same amount of isk. Understand people don’t have 10 hours to sit at a computer grinding to make isk doing an activitiy that is hugely boring and repetitive. This change puts a huge amount of pressure on people who, actually really like playing, to play a way that they completely dislike. Now what does this tell you? Your post tells me a lot about you. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/1824 "2020-12-04T22:29:17Z")
> [@Galvanized](#): > > May be the OP wanted to gather thoughts and debate which very quickly turned into firing shots and sarcastic comments when views and opinions are not on the same path. Or… maybe OP thought his opinion was worth more than everyone else’s so he went and created a separate thread that does nothing but repeat the same dumb arguments being spammed in the official thread. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/1825 "2020-12-04T22:29:24Z")
> [@Galvanized](#): > > Until the devs improve the game my accounts will stay Omega’ed. That’ll teach them!!!1111111oneoneone ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/1826 "2020-12-04T22:33:04Z")
> [@Galvanized](#): > > This change puts a huge amount of pressure on people who, actually really like playing, to play a way that they completely dislike. There is no pressure, because they can leave. No one’s forcing them to stay. That pressure only exists assuming either they’re addicted to the game … … or because it affects their real life income. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/1827 "2020-12-04T22:35:05Z")
> [@Galvanized](#): > > This change puts a huge amount of pressure on people who, **actually really like playing** who actually really like going afk, watching Netflix/Youtube, and thus not playing EVE Online ---
**Author:** ![Galvanized](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galvanized/32/244518_2.png) [@Galvanized](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galvanized)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/1828 "2020-12-04T22:42:19Z")
hey Scroats, quote me fully not just the one that fits your narrative. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/1829 "2020-12-04T22:45:23Z")
I feel reminded of the time when the nullbears said “Adapt or die” when it cames to nerfs to PvP. They, who play afk, in perfect safety, in nullsec. Assholes alltogether. I’m really ■■■■■■■ glad we’re slowly getting rid of them. > [@Galvanized](#): > > hey Scroats, quote me fully not just the one that fits your narrative. Why does it matter, when all you write is ■■■■■■■■? The people who are _actively playing_ aren’t bothered by this change one single ■■■■■■■ bit. **Not one single ■■■■■■■ bit, because they’re not going afk anyway and thus don’t need drone-auto-aggro.** The _only_ ones who are whining are the lazy assholes who are getting the boot. … I’m still not sure if it’s safe to say “■■■■ off” ? ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/1830 "2020-12-04T22:45:37Z")
> [@Galvanized](#): > > quote me fully Quoting you fully doesn’t even help your position though. > [@Galvanized](#): > > This change puts a huge amount of pressure on people who, actually really like playing, to play **a way that they completely dislike.** Ah, so you mean. People who, actually really like being AFK are being made to actually play the game. Speaks a lot when “actually playing the game” is considered as something “they completely dislike”. The thing they completely dislike = actually playing the game (???) ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 10:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/1831 "2020-12-04T22:47:55Z")
Seriously can someone please point out that he’s so daft … … he doesn’t know Alpha from Omega? ---
**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/1832 "2020-12-04T22:54:03Z")
> [@Galvanized](#): > > Easy tiger who made you forum queeny? What? > [@Galvanized](#): > > Name a forum where people haven’t duplicated a discussion… Name a forum where someone that duplicates an **official** thread to discuss the exact same issue and asking questions that are **already answered there** isn’t an idiot that thinks his “opinion” deserves more attention than everybody else’s… > [@Galvanized](#): > > May be the OP wanted to gather thoughts and debate Which is exactly what the **official** thread is for… > [@Galvanized](#): > > which very quickly turned into firing shots and sarcastic comments As deserved… > [@Galvanized](#): > > a change like this is a big change for people who played the game using drone boats to fund other aspects of the game. So what? I’m not even arguing one way or another. How is the **official** thread not appropriate to discuss any of that? The OP did not even add anything to the discussion. The only thing he did is ask a question that was already answered there… > [@Galvanized](#): > > Now what does this tell you? A LOT about YOU too, indeed… ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/1833 "2020-12-04T22:57:41Z")
> [@Knowledgeminer](#): > > **oficial** I’m reallyreallyreally sorry for not taking this super seriously right now … … and how dare I not giving it the respect it deserves … … because this is such an important topic … … butbutbut you have a typo there! \*_points\*_ 😊 Oh look, a butterfly! 😃 \*_runs off\*_ ---
**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 11:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713/1834 "2020-12-04T23:00:36Z")
LOL. Right on. Fixed. Thanks. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713.md?page=79) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upcoming-changes-to-drone-aggression/281713.md?page=81)