# Update #4 CSM 18

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-4-csm-18/434729>\
**Category:** Jita Park\
**Created:** [January 2, 2024, 3:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-4-csm-18/434729 "2024-01-02T03:49:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
**Page:** 1

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Mike\_Azariah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_azariah/32/512626_2.png) [@Mike\_Azariah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_Azariah)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 3:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-4-csm-18/434729/1 "2024-01-02T03:49:39Z")

</div>

Looking for input. What would you like me to take to CCP at this years summit in early February?

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/3/8/e38f287acba85e9168f395ff13c72ec921ad7439.jpeg "CSM 18 Update Jan 1 2024") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzrxe6eveZQ)

m

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Selrahc\_Kondur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/selrahc_kondur/32/402082_2.png) [@Selrahc\_Kondur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Selrahc_Kondur)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 4:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-4-csm-18/434729/2 "2024-01-02T04:08:39Z")

</div>

Make war decs great again.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-4-csm-18/434729/3 "2024-01-02T08:27:18Z")

</div>

Ok elaborate? Because if you go up to a dev and say that first thing they’ll say is what do you mean?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Nora\_Maldoran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nora_maldoran/32/399985_2.png) [@Nora\_Maldoran](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nora_Maldoran)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-4-csm-18/434729/4 "2024-01-02T11:07:44Z")

</div>

Happy New Year, Mike.

I’d love if you remind the producers that this thread exists. And that they can hardly go wrong with attributing some resources to these community requests:

> [@Little things / Small QoL suggestions](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/little-things-small-qol-suggestions/3545/):
>
> Hi all, We feel like it’s time for a new Little Things thread, a place where you can post your suggestions for little quality of life changes. As we mostly work on the UI, UI or other client suggestions would be most relevant. To make it easier to read and process, please post your suggestions in the following format: Suggestion: Ability to see volume in Multibuy Keywords: ui, multibuy, market Note: Useful buying stuff to ship somewhere else When I’m buying stuff from Jita with Multibuy an…

Also, a thing that’s worth mentioning is that CCP Kestrel should get a bonus for bringing the Abyssal Proving Grounds back. There is a PvP crowd that greatly enjoys this kind of content. It’s worth being more than some lone developers’ “passion project”.

And finally, 2024 could be the year it happens: Cat Ears. It would greatly fit the Gruistas Easter Egg-hunt event, wouldn’t it?

o7

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Anataine\_Deva](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anataine_deva/32/373865_2.png) [@Anataine\_Deva](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anataine_Deva)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-4-csm-18/434729/5 "2024-01-02T11:39:13Z")

</div>

I was starting to write a little rant about the clickfest that PI is. - Why assigning every single resource to every single processing unit? Would be much more “fun” if the processing units would automatically grab the needed ressources, if they are available in the connected storage facilities. Makes switching the prouction from one to another type much more easier… but …

> [@Nora\_Maldoran](#):
>
> Cat Ears

You gonna have to set priorities. This please. In black please.

Visual illustration:

 ![53418247480_51936426bf_c](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/2/f/82f4503760149df19f1d0828642f397c05f81488.jpeg)

Thank you ❣ 🐈

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Eysk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eysk/32/449720_2.png) [@Eysk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eysk)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-4-csm-18/434729/6 "2024-01-02T13:57:39Z")

</div>

CCPlease do something about referral link spam in Rookie Chat, local, and NPC corp chat.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Velan\_Wolf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/velan_wolf/32/388768_2.png) [@Velan\_Wolf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Velan_Wolf)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-4-csm-18/434729/7 "2024-01-02T16:50:53Z")

</div>

Since you asked. I’d like to see cosmos items fixed to an actual usable state. The following post gives a general idea of their current condition.

> [@Storyline modules rant](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/storyline-modules-rant/285448):
>
> Several things i need to mention first: -its a list of problems and weird things that made me ask “why?” too many times -im an industrialist, idk exacly how to get bpcs so i wont get into that, altho i know that parts come from exploration -i just started making storyline modules (2 weeks or so) so maybe there are some things idk -this isnt a rant(well, its kinda is) or call to fix it asap cause i know that this is an old and i guess never updated content and i know that for most players its…

Also It would be nice if they could work on module balance and finish tiericide but as a starting point I’d like to see them fix hull repairs especially since the meta 4 and the tech 2 are exactly the same module with no difference other than build cost of the tech 2.

 ![Screenshot_20231227_182410](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/1/5/1155535931d537d821909ade815740ed6468c153.png)

For information on what’s still outstanding in tiericide see this post.

> [@Tiericide - The never ending story](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/tiericide-the-never-ending-story/12749):
>
> Just reposting this thread as its useful for people coming back to see what has changed. CCP officially announced a major rebalancing initiative with the ‘Rebalancing EVE, one ship at a time’ developer blog on the 6/3/2012. This initiative started with Inferno 1.0 which modified some T1 frigates on the 22/5/2012. I know a lot of old timers who can fly many ships have enjoyed the progress, as every few releases they get a major change to one of their favorite ships. The following is a summary o…

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-4-csm-18/434729/8 "2024-01-02T17:40:01Z")

</div>

> [@Mike\_Azariah](#):
>
> What would you like me to take to CCP at this years summit in early February?

1. Keep iterating on Pirate and Empire FW. Very little reason to do Suppression.
2. Let outlaws have docking permissions in High Sec again.
3. Siege Green retrospective was promised and unceremoniously cancelled last minute.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-4-csm-18/434729/9 "2024-01-02T20:55:22Z")

</div>

Doubt they’ll touch cosmos. Oldest content in game

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Posh\_Wynoa\_Spice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/posh_wynoa_spice/32/455534_2.png) [@Posh\_Wynoa\_Spice](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Posh_Wynoa_Spice)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 11:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-4-csm-18/434729/10 "2024-01-02T23:40:38Z")

</div>

The cat ears need to be mechanical augments, with a strong cyperpunk aesthetic similar to how eyes are handled. Otherwise, they don’t fit the theme of the eve universe.

as to topics that need to be brought up to CCP:  
#1 - lots of new folks and new leadership at CCP, and it’s getting to the point where those folks need a “return to form”  
#1a - look at how Sansha Incursions were back when they were first added, what the feedback was, and the multitude of patches to get to the current Sansha. There were reasons for those changes, lessons that were learned at the time, and a lot of wisdom that went into those.  
#1b - now, look at the Drifter Incursions when they were first added, the couple of balance patches while the Drifter Incursions were a thing, and then the removal of the Drifter Incursions. There were reasons for all of those, and community reactions to said changes…which lead to their ultimate removal.  
#1c - now…let’s see how the Triglavian v Edencom incursions went. Lots of similar strokes, similar mistakes, and similar actions (or mistakes, depending on perspective) by CCP…and a _lot_ of jaded cynics who have been playing eve for a while predicting it all with shocking accuracy. There were a lot of lessons from previous events that should have been learned, should have been improved upon, and a lot of community sentiments of respinning the same wheel followed by removing large segments of the mechanics with no regard for fall out (especially standings-wise) that the players will be generally stuck with.

#2 - more iteration on older mechanics and lore loose ends. While FW was due for a big rework, and it was largely successful (still some kinks to work out, but better than before and much better than some of the previous attempts at making FW more active), there are still a lot of older mechanics (wormholes (esp. drifter and pirate special wormholes), Sansha Incursions, drifters at large). There are also a lot of loose threads that deserve more. Things like the [redacted] at the end of the Sisters of Eve epic quest that has been a loose end for decades… so many “new” things, and a focus on chasing “new and shiny” while continuing to disregard some of the older, and frankly better written, lore would be a step in a better direction vice every thing being a “new addition” with the “old stuff” being long forgotten.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Mu\_ad\_Diib](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mu_ad_diib/32/389247_2.png) [@Mu\_ad\_Diib](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mu_ad_Diib)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 2:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-4-csm-18/434729/12 "2024-01-03T02:35:11Z")

</div>

> [@Mike\_Azariah](#):
>
> Looking for input. What would you like me to take to CCP at this years summit in early February?

First off, congratulations on being elected to the CSM once again @Mike_Azariah - it couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.

The fact that you are seeking input from pilots to help you create a shortlist of issues to raise at the CSM Summit, speaks volumes, IMHO, about the quality of you as a representative, about how connected you are to the community, and how keen you are to be a voice for us all.

Well done.

I do have an issue that I would like to get on the agenda if possible:

> **EverMarks and small corporations**
> 
> I’m the CEO of a micro corp.
> 
> Because of our size and our limited number of active members, many of whom are rookies, we don’t have a lot of economic muscle. This, combined with a wish to avoid war declarations, means that we don’t have any structures and are unlikely to get any in the future.
> 
> The members that we have are, however, pretty enthusiastic within the game and because the corp gains EverMarks at a 1:1 ratio when our members do, we have now accumulated 1,432,250 EverMarks in our corporation wallet.
> 
> The problem is there is literally nothing for us to spend them on.
> 
> I’ve chatted to some helpful GMs via support tickets (especially @GM_Banquet) who have informed me that in the Viridian Expansion a change was made whereby EverMarks can now _ **only** _ be spent by corporations in the SKINR tool for Upwell Structures. Or donated to an alliance for them to use on collectively owned structures (_but we’re not in an alliance_).
> 
> What I’d like to see is a _change_ to this situation so that small corps like mine can spend their EverMarks on corporation owned emblems for ships.
> 
> I’m thinking that this would be something that the CEO or nominated officers (_with the appropriate permissions_) could purchase using the EverMarks in the corporation wallet.
> 
> The emblems, once purchased, would be global, insofar as any member of the corporation flying the same ship would have the option of applying the emblem to their ship within the Personalization tab in the fitting window. If they left the corporation, they would lose the ability to apply the emblem.

I hope this all make sense.

I suspect that we’re not the only corporation in this position and so I hope that this might be something that the CSM and/or CCP could look at please.

🐁

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Fano\_Alabel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fano_alabel/32/399859_2.png) [@Fano\_Alabel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fano_Alabel)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-4-csm-18/434729/13 "2024-01-03T07:33:53Z")

</div>

No cat ears please !!!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Mike\_Azariah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_azariah/32/512626_2.png) [@Mike\_Azariah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_Azariah)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-4-csm-18/434729/14 "2024-01-03T08:46:04Z")

</div>

oh if they come they will be MANDATORY

m

or bunny ears for the conscientious objectors

/s

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-4-csm-18/434729/15 "2024-04-02T08:46:55Z")

</div>

This topic was automatically closed 90 days after the last reply. New replies are no longer allowed.
