# Update on Asset Safety values for Supers & Titans **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** patchnotes\ **Created:** [December 4, 2025, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331 "2025-12-04T10:12:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2025, 4:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/204 "2025-12-19T04:35:50Z")
I’m not sure what you mean. My post was referring to the fact that anyone putting a super onto the field likely either already has a replacement, or will be SRP’ed by their alliance if they lose it. ---
**Author:** ![Jaded\_Spawn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jaded_spawn/32/457124_2.png) [@Jaded\_Spawn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jaded_Spawn)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2025, 5:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/205 "2025-12-19T05:55:13Z")
OK. Sorry if I misunderstood. With the crazy stuff that was just suggested to me about living Eve 24/7 to be able to play, I thought someone was now saying being in a Keep meant I was willing to lose the ship to combat. Sorry, I misunderstood. ---
**Author:** ![Jaded\_Spawn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jaded_spawn/32/457124_2.png) [@Jaded\_Spawn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jaded_Spawn)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2025, 6:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/206 "2025-12-19T06:02:25Z")
Some of you live in a reality all your own and can’t comprehend that Eve players have different lifestyles. I paid for Eve for years, and didn’t stop paying, because I wanted to come back to the game. So I have years of being in Eve. But I play for fun… not as a job. Someone who runs a corporation might treat it like a job. I don’t. But if CCP ever hires you guys who have nothing but Eve time for RL, hey, I’ll move on. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2025, 6:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/207 "2025-12-19T06:17:34Z")
> [@Jaded\_Spawn](#): > > But I play for fun… not as a job. Ok, but we aren’t talking about casual players here, we are talking about people who have played the game for hundreds or thousands of hours to be able to afford a Super or Titan. People who have those are not casual players… ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/208 "2025-12-20T14:11:51Z")
> [@Malak\_Starfire](#): > > Ok, but we aren’t talking about casual players here, we are talking about people who have played the game for hundreds or thousands of hours to be able to afford a Super or Titan. The discussion is totally moot. No argument in the world will ever change his mind, he feels entitled that he has _worked hard_ for all _his stuff_ and nobody should ever be able to challenge or even destroy it without his explicit consent. He basically wants to have his assets safe like in HighSec and at the same time all the industrial and PvE income sources of a developed nullsec. And others are mean no-life nerds if they tell him that this kind of carebearism is destroying the game itself long-term because if all that stockpiled stuff cannot be destroyed any more, the blocks reach levels of replacements that any fight is totally meaningless as it would be an endless grind through ever more replacements. We absolutely need to come back to a system of a _few_ indestructable but conquerable key-outposts per region or maybe 1 conquerable NPC station per constellation that could be used as staging point. And whoever has sov can restrict docking there and use it as main point of defense. And if that one falls, the constellation falls. And then Upwell-Asset Safety is restricted to a small container (~50.000m³) for Alphas and a large container (~500.000m³) for Omegas. So your highest value items can be saved for a fresh start, Capitals, Supercaps and huge quantities of resources either have to be evacuated or fall into the enemies hands. ---
**Author:** ![Jaded\_Spawn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jaded_spawn/32/457124_2.png) [@Jaded\_Spawn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jaded_Spawn)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2025, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/209 "2025-12-21T17:00:01Z")
Actually, I respect the rules the CCP has set, and I object to the crackpot schemes some here are advocating that say we should lose it all. So don’t get it twisted. ---
**Author:** ![Bluemelon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bluemelon/32/397635_2.png) [@Bluemelon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bluemelon)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2025, 11:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/210 "2025-12-28T23:00:28Z")
Any updates ? ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2025, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/211 "2025-12-28T23:47:32Z")
What are you expecting an update on? ---
**Author:** ![Atrol\_Nalelmir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/atrol_nalelmir/32/475804_2.png) [@Atrol\_Nalelmir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Atrol_Nalelmir)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2025, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/212 "2025-12-29T14:23:30Z")
Assuming the reimbursement for overpaying on asset safety, I’ve not received anything back either. ---
**Author:** ![Engad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/engad/32/486791_2.png) [@Engad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Engad)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 6:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/213 "2026-01-03T06:31:04Z")
Hi Is there any update anytime soon. Many of us still waiting your action. Month has passed and not much action has taken. ---
**Author:** ![Beekeeper\_Bob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/beekeeper_bob/32/395030_2.png) [@Beekeeper\_Bob](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Beekeeper_Bob)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/214 "2026-01-03T16:12:34Z")
Is math really that hard CCP? ---
**Author:** ![Zedminer\_Severasse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zedminer_severasse/32/377928_2.png) [@Zedminer\_Severasse](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zedminer_Severasse)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/215 "2026-01-03T19:32:36Z")
They are still drunk from the holidays. ---
**Author:** ![Jehle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jehle/32/390836_2.png) [@Jehle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jehle)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2026, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/216 "2026-01-06T20:48:58Z")
Can we let them dock in stations yet? They are all in station at Odebein any way. Seems like they fit after all. ---
**Author:** ![CCP\_Swift](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_swift/32/381987_2.png) [@CCP\_Swift](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Swift)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/217 "2026-01-07T15:15:00Z")
Hey all! Sorry for the slow responses over the holidays. The reimbursements will be coming in the next few days, will post when they are all completed. Thank you for the patience! ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Dream](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dr_dream/32/448882_2.png) [@Dr\_Dream](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dr_Dream)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/218 "2026-01-09T07:59:00Z")
Dear CCP Swift, first of all, I would like to thank you for this solution. Allow me to ask about the other issue i posted here and where you said you will look into, which was about 25% instead the expected 15% for pulling out a Keepstar Hull+Core from Asset Safety. The ticket 2563262 was now updated again with “There were no errors with the Keepstar Asset Safety recovery tax calculation.” Can you confirm that satement? Kind regards ---
**Author:** ![lucyseven](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lucyseven/32/481374_2.png) [@lucyseven](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/lucyseven)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/219 "2026-01-09T10:43:05Z")
Thank you for paying the tax. I have just one question. I retrieved two ships subject to the Asset Safety tax using two separate accounts that are linked to my account. In this case, will you reimburse/pay the tax for each account separately? ---
**Author:** ![Johny\_Rambo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/johny_rambo/32/476152_2.png) [@Johny\_Rambo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Johny_Rambo)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2026, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/221 "2026-01-21T05:59:24Z")
I’ve paid almost double the asset safety fee for Aeon (over 5b, for indicated 3b in original post). The post says all fees higher than those will be reimbursed. Yet my reimbursement ticket is being rejected by GM, quoting the “namely” part of the original post and saying only those 3 hulls were reimbursed. So what are the rules then? Did someone take an Aeon through asset safety recently and how much was the fee? Asking for a friend… ---
**Author:** ![sweetnjuicy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sweetnjuicy/32/409351_2.png) [@sweetnjuicy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/sweetnjuicy)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2026, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/222 "2026-01-22T00:07:17Z")
Still not received any reimbursement, pulled out 2 x rag, 1 x wyvern, and a 5+ bil rigged aeon. Submitted a ticket regarding this 10 days ago still not checked…. ---
**Author:** ![Wachutu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wachutu/32/410262_2.png) [@Wachutu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wachutu)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2026, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/223 "2026-01-23T20:06:50Z")
Is hilarious having tons of ISK and assets and still begging CCP for more. On next one dont by lazy and move your stuff by self. CCP please delete asset safety and add them as SOV upgrade. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2026, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/224 "2026-01-24T10:54:27Z")
> [@Wachutu](#): > > add them as SOV upgrade Or an _incredibly_ expensive station service that cannot be onlined once the station is in reinforce. That adds strategical depth, because you have to make decisions: - save maintenance costs but have to manually evacuate assets on that station - pay for the increased convenience of asset safety It would financially reward those groups willing to take more risk and effort over those wanting to have a simple “evac teleporter” active at all times. Others might want to activate/run the system only for their main staging stations, but not for remote outposts. Or only if a conflict is arising on the horizon… [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331.md?page=10) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331.md?page=12)