# Update on Asset Safety values for Supers & Titans **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** patchnotes\ **Created:** [December 4, 2025, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331 "2025-12-04T10:12:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![True\_Hubik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/true_hubik/32/454081_2.png) [@True\_Hubik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/True_Hubik)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2025, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/103 "2025-12-06T13:48:24Z")
Let me direct you few messages above. > [@Update on Asset Safety values for Supers & Titans](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/97): > > “Breaking: Study shows owning a horse makes you live longer!” Completely not because being able to afford a horse, means being able to afford better food and healthcare. Stated over and over again. People are older, have kids and responsibilities. If I had to log off in a super every time I go for a family holiday, or weekend, I’d not log back in. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2025, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/104 "2025-12-06T13:54:59Z")
Yeah, I have 2 houses I’m paying off. I have a wife and cats that demand my attention. That’s why I’m not buying capital ships and storing them inside of a structure that must be fed giant ice cubes every day and defended against attacks. Eve Online has always been all about protecting your assets from destruction. It always has been. So… can I use the “I have a life now” excuse to make my ships respawn when destroyed? After all, I don’t have all day to make the money to replace all of them. No, of course I can’t. ---
**Author:** ![True\_Hubik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/true_hubik/32/454081_2.png) [@True\_Hubik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/True_Hubik)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2025, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/105 "2025-12-06T13:59:02Z")
So TL;DR: “If you don’t like MY WAY, then quit.” Really underlines all the solutions to null-sec, coming from outside the environment. ---
**Author:** ![Lana\_Lollipop](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lana_lollipop/32/462900_2.png) [@Lana\_Lollipop](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lana_Lollipop)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2025, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/106 "2025-12-06T14:04:15Z")
This game has been going for over 20 years and has always had chestbeaters screaming HTFU, how null was the most dangerous and risky space in the game, how everyone should go there, how elite they were, etc, etc, etc. In all honesty, null is the safest place in the game where you can rat, mine and anom until your hearts content with minimal risk. Due to the perceived “risk” in null, it has the best ores, best anoms, best rats, best anoms, etc. The joke is that your sovreign space is safer than high/low or WH space. You’ve got local, dscan, deep null systems, massive system sizes. Here’s an example; When jumping into a null system to find ratters they immediately dock up when they see someone enter local - by the time you’ve warped to them over 100au you can never catch them and they’ll never undock again. Null is a joke, full of cry babies who throw tantrums about anything that doesn’t benefit them. Asset safety needs to be removed - it’s supposed to be risky, it’s supposed to be rewarding. For all the bleeting of “destruction is good for the game” we then end up with assets that can be easily saved to avoid destruction. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2025, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/107 "2025-12-06T14:08:52Z")
I never said that. I simply mentioned how it used to be. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2025, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/108 "2025-12-06T14:16:15Z")
> [@Lana\_Lollipop](#): > > Asset safety needs to be removed - it’s supposed to be risky, it’s supposed to be rewarding. For all the bleeting of “destruction is good for the game” we then end up with assets that can be easily saved to avoid destruction. I think the very same thing every time nullbears accuse me of being afraid to leave high sec. Sure null sec is more dangerous, but when it because TRULY dangerous, thousands quit the game. Blackout cost CCP a hell of a lot of subscribers. And now that they have Asset Safety, they’re not giving it up without a fight. I’d respect null bears a lot more if they ever stopped boasting about how Hard Core they are. ---
**Author:** ![Jehle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jehle/32/390836_2.png) [@Jehle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jehle)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2025, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/109 "2025-12-06T14:22:28Z")
Just let them dock. They are all in stations any way. ---
**Author:** ![True\_Hubik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/true_hubik/32/454081_2.png) [@True\_Hubik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/True_Hubik)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2025, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/110 "2025-12-06T14:28:03Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > I’d respect null bears a lot more if they ever stopped boasting about how Hard Core they are. You might have confused low-sec with null-sec. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2025, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/111 "2025-12-06T14:33:03Z")
Nope. I certainly didn’t. Blackout did not affect low sec. It only affected null. ---
**Author:** ![lucyseven](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lucyseven/32/481374_2.png) [@lucyseven](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/lucyseven)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2025, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/112 "2025-12-06T14:35:19Z")
I paid 68B ISK to retrieve my two Avatars from asset safety. Due to PH’s retreat, my personal losses are estimated to exceed roughly 200B ISK. The news about reimbursement for the asset safety fees is encouraging. I sincerely hope the compensation will be processed promptly. ---
**Author:** ![DN-9999](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dn-9999/32/462470_2.png) [@DN-9999](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DN-9999)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2025, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/113 "2025-12-06T14:41:41Z")
All action in EVE have a certain ripple effect right. why u protect the wealthy? i mean to have a Avatar means ur pretty wealthy. why should u even bother undock and might lose it, if u still hold 90% of it if everything goes to ashes. This might be the very reason people wont fight over their assets at all, because u just lose a bit if hell breaks lose. All in all removing consequences for ur actions makes Eve less fun. And im sure People with titans know how to make isk. they have it back in no time, let us interact in this game together and please let them be able to hurt me bad. ---
**Author:** ![True\_Hubik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/true_hubik/32/454081_2.png) [@True\_Hubik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/True_Hubik)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2025, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/114 "2025-12-06T15:08:27Z")
OK. I got baited. Let’s stop devolving this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Lasisha\_Mishi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lasisha_mishi/32/435004_2.png) [@Lasisha\_Mishi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lasisha_Mishi)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2025, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/115 "2025-12-06T16:01:40Z")
probably more to fix something CCP didnt realize was broken Avatar being 30b to pull out Leviathan being 8b Wyvern being 3b Nyx being 7b that screams “uh oh…something went wrong” and price differences that extreme can affect how the game is playeed, so fixing it is appropriate. the timing is just a coincidence because we havent had a mass asset saftey that drew so much attention to the issue before now and the reinbursement is cause the prices were not intentional ---
**Author:** ![Adada\_Tuesday](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adada_tuesday/32/478186_2.png) [@Adada\_Tuesday](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adada_Tuesday)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2025, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/116 "2025-12-06T16:51:40Z")
This situation illustrates how delaying important issues can lead to rushed decisions that ultimately frustrate the majority of people. It’s an unfortunate outcome? ---
**Author:** ![Wilhelm\_Arcturus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wilhelm_arcturus/32/412004_2.png) [@Wilhelm\_Arcturus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wilhelm_Arcturus)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2025, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/117 "2025-12-06T18:07:44Z")
Don’t fly anything you cannot afford to lose… unless you’re a PanFam super pilot, then CCP has your back. ---
**Author:** ![Miner\_Creire-Geng](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/miner_creire-geng/32/483003_2.png) [@Miner\_Creire-Geng](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Miner_Creire-Geng)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2025, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/118 "2025-12-06T20:17:05Z")
Hey maybe if ccp motify the super & titan cost modify everything to 5% off the cost and everyonne is going to be happy 🙂 Or maybe it’s only because Horde & others lost theyre home system without the courage off fighting. ---
**Author:** ![Axandrias\_Darkstar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/axandrias_darkstar/32/483017_2.png) [@Axandrias\_Darkstar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Axandrias_Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2025, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/119 "2025-12-06T22:01:34Z")
My avatar cost 60bil when I made it, so yeah please reduce my bill as I paid a cool 27bil, almost 50% pulling it out of AS.. ---
**Author:** ![Sara\_Seraph](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sara_seraph/32/495525_2.png) [@Sara\_Seraph](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sara_Seraph)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2025, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/120 "2025-12-06T22:49:44Z")
So if we get rid of Asset Safety, there will be a 50% loot drop? If yes, then we get rid of CORES? ---
**Author:** ![Saba\_Amaniti](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saba_amaniti/32/479971_2.png) [@Saba\_Amaniti](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saba_Amaniti)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/121 "2025-12-07T06:01:46Z")
looks like youve never been in nullsec roaming ---
**Author:** ![Saba\_Amaniti](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saba_amaniti/32/479971_2.png) [@Saba\_Amaniti](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saba_Amaniti)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2025, 6:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331/122 "2025-12-07T06:03:07Z")
i payed 1.6b for like 6b worth of stuff a month ago. carrier, some modules and few subcaps 😅 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/update-on-asset-safety-values-for-supers-titans/502331.md?page=7)