# Updated System Requirements - Discontinue Windows 7 and 8 Support **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** official\ **Created:** [October 16, 2023, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047 "2023-10-16T14:54:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Noot\_Dnilb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noot_dnilb/32/346694_2.png) [@Noot\_Dnilb](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noot_Dnilb)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/41 "2023-10-21T21:13:38Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > And you’ll find more and more games will be doing it, so you can feel free to sit there on 7 all you want, its your list of games which is going to get smaller 🙂 The list of games is null and void, as Steam itself will go dark in a couple of weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/42 "2023-10-21T21:14:16Z")
> [@Noot\_Dnilb](#): > > The list of games is null and void, as Steam itself will go dark in a couple of weeks. Citation needed please. (TY for link) @Noot_Dnilb Please back up your claim with any appropriate link. Preferably from Steam. ---
**Author:** ![Noot\_Dnilb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noot_dnilb/32/346694_2.png) [@Noot\_Dnilb](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noot_Dnilb)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/43 "2023-10-21T21:15:55Z")
[Here you go - Steam support discontinued Win7/8](https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/4784-4F2B-1321-800A) ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/44 "2023-10-21T21:17:02Z")
Ty. Could you actually format that for more people than just me? Remember to always cite your sources so they are easy to find! 🙂 Usually, the link text is sufficient because formatting the URL to “Here you go” is not great. ---
**Author:** ![MalcomReynolds\_Serenity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malcomreynolds_serenity/32/385107_2.png) [@MalcomReynolds\_Serenity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MalcomReynolds_Serenity)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/46 "2023-10-21T21:32:27Z")
> [@Chribba](#): > > It’s really too bad CCP shut down EVE Anywhere, that would have solved this issue for the people that are sticking to older OS’ It wouldn’t have helped because chromium support for Windows 7 was discontinued almost a year ago. They were far smarter about supporting windows 7 than CCP was. There are also other better alternatives to eve anywhere - not that those are any more likely to run on windows 7 for much longer either. ---
**Author:** ![MalcomReynolds\_Serenity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malcomreynolds_serenity/32/385107_2.png) [@MalcomReynolds\_Serenity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MalcomReynolds_Serenity)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/47 "2023-10-21T21:33:17Z")
its about time. I wonder how much more development could have been done had Windows 7 not been supported at any point during the last 3 years ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 5:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/48 "2023-10-22T05:23:59Z")
It will still work on linux? ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 6:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/49 "2023-10-22T06:14:27Z")
At the moment, the client crashes on wine 8.0.2-stable. The launcher works fine, but the client not so much. When I have time, I’ll do a clean install and re-check. Regarding win11 - if you haven’t read the new October '23 EULA, you really should read what the micro-police is allowing themselves to do to you and your computer. I wouldn’t want to agree on that. Maybe a class-action suit will make them come to their senses. ---
**Author:** ![Meditril](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meditril/32/378591_2.png) [@Meditril](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meditril)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 7:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/50 "2023-10-22T07:06:48Z")
Yes, EVE is working usually well on Linux. The easiest way is to use it via Steam after enabling experimental mode. ---
**Author:** ![Every\_One](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/every_one/32/422987_2.png) [@Every\_One](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Every_One)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2023, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/51 "2023-10-23T11:22:34Z")
I hope you won’t consider Mac next … ---
**Author:** ![Wesfahrn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wesfahrn/32/392292_2.png) [@Wesfahrn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wesfahrn)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2023, 2:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/53 "2023-10-23T14:49:22Z")
If EVE online hadnt changed much the last 15 years, it would probably have been better off. I mean the PC game market is changing. It used to be that people bought a new game, played it for a week, then bought a new game. This is still a thing. But also are “stable” games that people return to. If EVE online hadnt changed much then it would still be accesible via “old hardware” and for people who do not spend thousands of dollars on a new PC every other year. This market is increasing btw. And the market for expensive 3D graphic PCs is shrinking imo. So “old games” will become the games that people continue to play. And the ones that thought they had to change something every 3 months are the ones people will slowly stop playing 🙂 Quality \> Quantiy. CCP mega blunder by making a game that can only be run on a specfic operating system and run well with high end hardware. Not a company that develops games for the people. Thats for sure rant over ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2023, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/54 "2023-10-23T15:29:32Z")
> [@Wesfahrn](#): > > This market is increasing btw. And the market for expensive 3D graphic PCs is shrinking imo. So “old games” will become the games that people continue to play. Wrong way lol. You seen the corpse that is Star Trek Online? These huge developers way bigger than CCP and the MMO market are going to be pushing for newer graphics cards, newer setups, and more. Games are only going to get harder to run, LARGER in size, and more expensive. Cities Skylines 2 for example is 50gb download. 😂 Starfield is apparently 125gb in size. The industry is going forward with these kinds of games. It is CCP’s job to stay at the bleeding edge of the competition. **Cutting support for Windows 7/8 frees up more dev hours to support other newer platforms.** ---
**Author:** ![Aesir\_Valtari](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aesir_valtari/32/488282_2.png) [@Aesir\_Valtari](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aesir_Valtari)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2023, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/55 "2023-10-23T18:41:56Z")
> [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](#): > > more dev hours to support other newer platforms Blockchain-tech based game, most likely. They somewhat dodged the bullet with NFT infestation, like year ago, to now play cat and mouse with blockchain. Well… ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2023, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/56 "2023-10-23T20:00:10Z")
> [@Aesir\_Valtari](#): > > Blockchain-tech based game, most likely. I will leave the speculation to your department. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Spodumain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dr_spodumain/32/384127_2.png) [@Dr\_Spodumain](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dr_Spodumain)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2023, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/57 "2023-10-23T21:46:05Z")
Mom they won’t let me use the OS that hasn’t had a security patch in 3 years, moooooooooooom I’m being oppressed!121!! ---
**Author:** ![Dragonlady\_13](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragonlady_13/32/388290_2.png) [@Dragonlady\_13](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dragonlady_13)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2023, 11:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/58 "2023-10-23T23:51:21Z")
Windows 10 (32bit and 64 bit) can be downloaded from Microsoft. but You have to get A Key to So it can be activated. I did have win 10 pro sorted out, but after a usb short. my system went down, I had to install win 7 pro, and windows 10 will not update from there site, I have downloaded, win 8.1 pro, and I just need a puk number, as Then I can install win 10 pro, as then I can use my puk key… What a polava, Grind, Headache… Fly safe all and for those that is going to fan fest, I will see you there. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 1:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/59 "2023-10-24T01:48:20Z")
Fanfest is over unless you mean 2024 lol ---
**Author:** ![Tonto\_Auri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tonto_auri/32/388339_2.png) [@Tonto\_Auri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tonto_Auri)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/60 "2023-10-24T08:22:52Z")
I’m using Windows 7 not because I can’t upgrade, but because Windows 10 does not have features Windows 7 has. (Namely shell customization.) ---
**Author:** ![CombatWaifu01](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/combatwaifu01/32/391501_2.png) [@CombatWaifu01](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CombatWaifu01)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 8:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/61 "2023-10-24T08:32:34Z")
EVE is certainly not worth upgrading to 10 over. It’s an easy choice for me. If I wanted an OS designed with backdoors to spy on me I’d be using a smartphone. Bye ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/62 "2023-10-24T08:51:39Z")
> [@CombatWaifu01](#): > > upgrading to 10 over Considering (AFAIK) 10 will be discontinued in a couple of years as well I guess if anything it should be 11 (well I hear it is even worse so just in theory). Anyway just thought I drop it in for your consideration in case you think about upgrading. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047.md?page=4)