# Updated System Requirements - Discontinue Windows 7 and 8 Support **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** official\ **Created:** [October 16, 2023, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047 "2023-10-16T14:54:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Kaivarian\_Coste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaivarian_coste/32/413759_2.png) [@Kaivarian\_Coste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaivarian_Coste)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/63 "2023-10-24T10:57:58Z")
its a shame that Eve Anywhere was scrapped ☹ ---
**Author:** ![YouAreMyBounty\_Sarn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/youaremybounty_sarn/32/391517_2.png) [@YouAreMyBounty\_Sarn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/YouAreMyBounty_Sarn)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/64 "2023-10-24T11:16:32Z")
Can you highlight any of the high-level technical changes you are making so that I can just check I can still run this on Linux with CCP’s plans please. ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/65 "2023-10-24T13:58:54Z")
Bye! @CombatWaifu01 Have a great day! 😁 Don’t trip on Windows 11 on the way down. > [@Tonto\_Auri](#): > > I’m using Windows 7 not because I can’t upgrade Yah dude video games is an expensive hobby. Many can relate about upgrade struggles. Sometimes I feel like my 2022 laptop is already outdated. 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/66 "2023-10-24T19:35:26Z")
Bought a brand new gaming pc with win10 with pandemic paycheck. It cannot upgrade to 11 ---
**Author:** ![Vexxor\_Aivo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vexxor_aivo/32/442061_2.png) [@Vexxor\_Aivo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vexxor_Aivo)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/67 "2023-10-24T19:50:56Z")
Windows 7/Initial release date - October 22, 2009 It has been 14 Years, you had time ---
**Author:** ![Vexxor\_Aivo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vexxor_aivo/32/442061_2.png) [@Vexxor\_Aivo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vexxor_Aivo)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/68 "2023-10-24T19:53:56Z")
Windows 10 does support it > **[Windows Processor Requirements Windows 10 22H2 Supported Intel Processors](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-10-22h2-supported-intel-processors)** > > This specification details the intel processors that can be used with Windows 10, version 22H2 Customer Systems that include Windows Products (including Custom Images). ---
**Author:** ![Phantomite](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phantomite/32/434485_2.png) [@Phantomite](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phantomite)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/69 "2023-10-24T20:04:40Z")
Good thing there’s no compatibility issue there then eh ---
**Author:** ![MalcomReynolds\_Serenity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malcomreynolds_serenity/32/385107_2.png) [@MalcomReynolds\_Serenity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MalcomReynolds_Serenity)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 12:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/70 "2023-10-25T00:22:05Z")
> [@Dragonlady\_13](#): > > e downloaded from Microsoft. but You have to get A Key to So it can be activated. I did have win 10 pro sorted out, but after a usb short. my system went down, I had to install win 7 pro, and windows 10 will not update from there site, I have downloaded, win 8.1 pro, and I just need a puk number, as Then I can install win 10 pro, as then I can use my puk key… What a polava, Grind, Headache… Fly safe all and for those that is going to fan fest, I will see you there. you don’t want to upgrade from a hopelessly obsolete and terrible operating system - to an operating system that is already almost obsolete. makes sense. If you don’t want the version of the OS that is monetized with ads, then spend less money than you did on your windows 7 license for the professional version of windows 10. ---
**Author:** ![MalcomReynolds\_Serenity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malcomreynolds_serenity/32/385107_2.png) [@MalcomReynolds\_Serenity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MalcomReynolds_Serenity)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/71 "2023-10-25T00:24:53Z")
That is extremely unlikely - it also doesn’t matter, eve wont be requiring a windows 11 minimum ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 2:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/72 "2023-10-25T02:14:46Z")
I was more or less replying to @Anthony_FatTony_Amico about his new laptop and how my 2020 pc cannot upgrade. I dont see 11 being a minimum requirement either. ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 3:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/73 "2023-10-25T03:35:51Z")
Oh man I can show you night and day between 2020 laptops and 2022. Crazy stuff. I am sad I am locked upgrade wise. I know there is a modular laptop out there but for now my 3070 TI will suffice. I hope. 😂 🤞 Gaming industry going to skip over 3070 TI people with release of Cities Skylines 2. Just happy I can run EVE. ---
**Author:** ![Mary\_Forcades](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mary_forcades/32/472756_2.png) [@Mary\_Forcades](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mary_Forcades)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/74 "2023-10-25T10:56:32Z")
Sorry meant Windows 11 ---
**Author:** ![MalcomReynolds\_Serenity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malcomreynolds_serenity/32/385107_2.png) [@MalcomReynolds\_Serenity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MalcomReynolds_Serenity)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/75 "2023-10-25T15:04:34Z")
Ah @Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras understood. a 2020 machine not being able to update is believable - 2022 is definitely not believable lol. You are sure that it doesn’t at least have a TPM header? It had become pretty common to at least have a header where you could buy a TPM to install onto the mohterboard even before windows 11. I am not sure what point that happened - I know that in 2017 when I built my current rig that motherboard selection was not very good with TPM/TPM header but became more ubiquitous after that. I really need to replace this slow piece of junk but there are always other bills lol and am also partially tempted to wait on Windows 12 for better BIGlittle support ---
**Author:** ![Sepakner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sepakner/32/391638_2.png) [@Sepakner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sepakner)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/76 "2023-10-25T15:38:16Z")
Same here. The old 64bit OS is 14 years old yes, but using Win 10 + 11 regularly [not my rig], I saw no substantial reason to upgrade, 11 is 68Gb of bloat and I’d rather avoid MS aggressive data harvesting policies. Worse, I still need my Win 7 rig because I don’t trust MS to keep my client confidentiality safe, their promises mean nothing to me lol ;p CCP will just have to do without my money until after I’ve made a new rig and clearly CCP has made it’s choice. ---
**Author:** ![Sepakner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sepakner/32/391638_2.png) [@Sepakner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sepakner)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/77 "2023-10-25T15:42:04Z")
If there was a reliable way to block or separate MS from my data I’d take it, but MS is hot on closing those loopholes. I’d use Linux but from where I sit, compatibility issues look like a nightmare? ---
**Author:** ![Sepakner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sepakner/32/391638_2.png) [@Sepakner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sepakner)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/78 "2023-10-25T16:03:35Z")
If anyone is going to get involved with stopping MS making their customers a saleable product it will be the EU, and if that happens, it will be years from now and MS will drag this through the courts for as many years as they can get away with. MS entire growth strategy for the next decades is to milk their clients computers for every byte of data they can get, and eventually create the walled garden that Apple enjoys. If the EU were to interfere with this strategy it would be a disaster for them. Remember when retail was packaging Linux machines ready to go? MS doubled their license fee and killed it. Around the time when ol’ Bill had to go to congressional committee for their monopolistic practices, that’d have been the ideal time to nip all this in the bud, but alas here we are. I’d never trust them with my own info, let alone client data that I’d be liable for breach. ---
**Author:** ![Gloriondel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloriondel/32/375182_2.png) [@Gloriondel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloriondel)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/79 "2023-10-26T10:58:57Z")
If it was about the botters they’d say it was about the botters. It’s not. It’s about banning end-to-end encryption by phasing out operating systems which support end-to-end encryption. The last major Windows 7 vulnerability (BlueKeep) was patched in 2019. Right now the SEC is pushing hard to nationalize compute by banning graphics card manufacturers from selling to China. The UK government banned end-to-end encryption this month. I support end-to-end encryption and will never be downgrading to Windows 10. EVE Online runs best on Windows 7, because this operating system is designed for gaming. Perhaps the Windows 7 ban just means that the SEC has more financial leverage than the players. I returned to EVE because Eternal Return made the same mistake. I suppose I’ll return to open-source games like Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup and Subspace Continuum. Edit: I think i7 CPUs newer than the supported ones are compatible. My corp leader suggests dual-booting to keep my original OS intact. Now that PanFam is camping my systems I have time to test out Phoenix Gamer LiteOS and check RAM usage for multiboxing. ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/80 "2023-10-26T13:43:22Z")
> [@Gloriondel](#): > > I support end-to-end encryption and will never be downgrading to Windows 10. EVE Online runs best on Windows 7, because this operating system is designed for gaming. Bye! o7 Idk how you are going to run most games in 2023 and beyond tho. > [@Gloriondel](#): > > I suppose I’ll return to open-source games like Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup and Subspace Continuum. Those are games??! 😂 I am way to young to be playing retro games. ---
**Author:** ![enigma\_ator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/enigma_ator/32/384948_2.png) [@enigma\_ator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/enigma_ator)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2023, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/81 "2023-10-27T11:31:38Z")
This. Also - a very small number of players are reading the forum. Something as important as this must have been on the launcher’s news roster way earlier. Some players will simply have to buy new hardware in order to escape Win7. Some of those players will also have pre-paid omega for months in advance + might have important in-game plans. Not even to mention that some people might get slapped emotionally pretty hard if they can not play the game all of a sudden (not everyone is born with the same mind as yours). As @Estrellita_Luz said - all is well with discontinuing the support for Win7 but: a) give it at least 3 month notice b) this must have been in-everyone’s-face since day 1 of the announcement. Or maybe it actually was in-the-face of Win7 users by some in-game notification, in which case I will stand corrected. On another note - those who refuse to upgrade from Win7 for whatever reason - it is your choice to make, but you must also understand the reasons why game developers have to do what they have to do. ---
**Author:** ![Neviahan\_Pserad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/neviahan_pserad/32/391814_2.png) [@Neviahan\_Pserad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Neviahan_Pserad)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2023, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047/82 "2023-10-27T11:34:03Z")
So, i will be forced to leave EVE online or buy a 1500€ computer? No thanks, dont have money for new comp. I checked, i can not upgrade to win 10/11. Fxxing useless skins and effects will not make this game better, thats for sure. So what if i payed for game time and you are canceling my game / option to play THE game? What about that? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/updated-system-requirements-discontinue-windows-7-and-8-support/424047.md?page=5)