# Upgrading the Mackinaw to a Combat Mining Barge

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**Category:** Player Features & Ideas\
**Created:** [January 28, 2018, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upgrading-the-mackinaw-to-a-combat-mining-barge/53945 "2018-01-28T20:23:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upgrading-the-mackinaw-to-a-combat-mining-barge/53945/1 "2018-01-28T20:23:48Z")

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I like the fact that I can use two Ogre II’s with the Mackinaw but I think it should be beefed up.

The drone bay should be capable carrying at least four large drones or Sentries. The barge would lose a strip mining slot and would have a 12,500 m3 ore bay.

It would gain mid and low slot along with a rig slot.

The cost of the Combat Mining Barge would be expensive and cost around 300,000,000 ISK just for the hull.

Or maybe convert the Hulk into the same Combat Mining Barge since it has become very unpopular.

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**Author:** ![Rivr\_Luzade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rivr_luzade/32/311061_2.png) [@Rivr\_Luzade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rivr_Luzade)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upgrading-the-mackinaw-to-a-combat-mining-barge/53945/2 "2018-01-28T20:42:01Z")

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Fly the Skiff instead.

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**Author:** ![Darkblad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkblad/32/143921_2.png) [@Darkblad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darkblad)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upgrading-the-mackinaw-to-a-combat-mining-barge/53945/3 "2018-01-28T20:44:24Z")

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(Mackinaw: Exhumer)

Get a Skiff. The Exhumer with combat capability.

Hulk is yield  
Mackinaw is Comfort

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**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upgrading-the-mackinaw-to-a-combat-mining-barge/53945/4 "2018-01-28T21:28:15Z")

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Holy crap Dryson…

a troll post? or you just proving how much a lame dummy you are?

yeah use a skiff

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**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upgrading-the-mackinaw-to-a-combat-mining-barge/53945/5 "2018-01-28T21:29:45Z")

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Obviously you calling someone else a dummy shows the base lack of having any type of intelligence at all.

You are the typical “Add Nothing New Troll.” Go back to your cave.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upgrading-the-mackinaw-to-a-combat-mining-barge/53945/6 "2018-01-28T21:56:12Z")

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Needs more scissors.

Also the combat capable exhumer is called a skiff.

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**Author:** ![Your\_Ex-Girlfriend](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/your_ex-girlfriend/32/429252_2.png) [@Your\_Ex-Girlfriend](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Your_Ex-Girlfriend)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upgrading-the-mackinaw-to-a-combat-mining-barge/53945/7 "2018-01-28T22:17:18Z")

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Aww, you beat me to the scissor reference. 😭

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**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 11:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upgrading-the-mackinaw-to-a-combat-mining-barge/53945/8 "2018-01-28T23:51:19Z")

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its more like a mud hut,

still different than the hole in the ground you all a home

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**Author:** ![Your\_Ex-Girlfriend](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/your_ex-girlfriend/32/429252_2.png) [@Your\_Ex-Girlfriend](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Your_Ex-Girlfriend)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2018, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upgrading-the-mackinaw-to-a-combat-mining-barge/53945/9 "2018-01-29T14:52:46Z")

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I’m sure it’s more of a hollow under the rock than a true hole.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Szadek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/count_szadek/32/413008_2.png) [@Count\_Szadek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Count_Szadek)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 3:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upgrading-the-mackinaw-to-a-combat-mining-barge/53945/10 "2018-01-30T03:31:40Z")

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As stated before, This ship essentially already exists: Its called a Skiff:

For Reference:  
Mining Barge: (Per Level)

- 5% Bonus to Ship Shield HItpoints
- 2% Reduction in Strip Miner and Ice Harvester Duration  
Exhumers: (Per Level)
- 4% Bonus to All Shield Resistances
- 2% Reduction in Strip Miner and Ice Harvester Duration  
Role Bonus:
- 50% Bonus to Drone Damage and Hitpoints

> [@DrysonBennington](#):
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> I like the fact that I can use two Ogre II’s with the Mackinaw but I think it should be beefed up.

Skiff can do this, and with the drone bonus, they are “beefed up”. Check

> [@DrysonBennington](#):
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> The drone bay should be capable carrying at least four large drones or Sentries. The barge would lose a strip mining slot and would have a 12,500 m3 ore bay.

you can run 2 heavy/sentries but they are buffed by the role bonus by 50% so 3 effective. For reference, Skiffs can push 200DPS without a damage module fairly easily. So in effect: Check

Skiff Ore Hold: 15,000m3 … so more than Check

> [@DrysonBennington](#):
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> It would gain mid and low slot along with a rig slot.

T2 ships have 2 rig slots, thats how it is. Skiff has 5 mids in addition 2 TWO shield bonuses (Can get EHP over 100,000 EHP on a T2 fit). Check

> [@DrysonBennington](#):
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> The cost of the Combat Mining Barge would be expensive and cost around 300,000,000 ISK just for the hull.

300mil is about the cost of a Skiff … check

> [@DrysonBennington](#):
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> Or maybe convert the Hulk into the same Combat Mining Barge since it has become very unpopular.

Coveter / Hulk: Mining Yield (Use in Fleets with boosts and haulers)  
Retriever / Mackinaw Ore Hold (good for solo)  
Procurer / Skiff Combat/Defense Capabilities (use if danger is a muck)

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 3:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/upgrading-the-mackinaw-to-a-combat-mining-barge/53945/11 "2018-04-30T03:31:40Z")

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