# Urgent Communique to Ishukone Corporation re: I-RED Disobedience of Order **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [November 8, 2021, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/urgent-communique-to-ishukone-corporation-re-i-red-disobedience-of-order/335782 "2021-11-08T18:12:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/urgent-communique-to-ishukone-corporation-re-i-red-disobedience-of-order/335782/41 "2021-11-08T21:21:48Z")
I’d recommend you to watch your comments and think twice before posting. EM never were blue to us. ---
**Author:** ![Reginald\_Sakakibara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/reginald_sakakibara/32/270314_2.png) [@Reginald\_Sakakibara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Reginald_Sakakibara)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/urgent-communique-to-ishukone-corporation-re-i-red-disobedience-of-order/335782/42 "2021-11-08T21:24:21Z")
But certainly purple. I distinctly remember the “grand merging” of the fleets. It was a sight to behold! ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/urgent-communique-to-ishukone-corporation-re-i-red-disobedience-of-order/335782/43 "2021-11-08T21:27:54Z")
It’s unfortunate enemies managed to slip into our fleets. I hope in the future such embarassment won’t happen again. ---
**Author:** ![Reginald\_Sakakibara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/reginald_sakakibara/32/270314_2.png) [@Reginald\_Sakakibara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Reginald_Sakakibara)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/urgent-communique-to-ishukone-corporation-re-i-red-disobedience-of-order/335782/44 "2021-11-08T21:30:04Z")
By definition of CONCORD fleet protocols, I am almost certain they were invited. ---
**Author:** ![Mikal\_Vektor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mikal_vektor/32/267041_2.png) [@Mikal\_Vektor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mikal_Vektor)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/urgent-communique-to-ishukone-corporation-re-i-red-disobedience-of-order/335782/45 "2021-11-08T21:31:13Z")
If your thesis is that RC whole-heartedly supports EM because because RC once flew alongside them, you’re going to be disappointed. You will struggle to find an alliance in the cluster for which this is not true. From Pandemic Horde, to Shadow Cartel, to CTRLV, to Snuff’d-out, to the Imperium, to TEST… all found themselves flying along RC over the last year. It seems that RC is not the only entity that is recently enjoying a certain promiscuity in loyalty though… ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/urgent-communique-to-ishukone-corporation-re-i-red-disobedience-of-order/335782/46 "2021-11-08T21:31:23Z")
And I am almost certain you’re here just to make a nuisance of yourself. Do you have any valid statement to make in regard of the topic of the discussion? ---
**Author:** ![Miran\_Tereven](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/miran_tereven/32/383453_2.png) [@Miran\_Tereven](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Miran_Tereven)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/urgent-communique-to-ishukone-corporation-re-i-red-disobedience-of-order/335782/47 "2021-11-08T21:32:26Z")
> [@Reginald\_Sakakibara](#): > > But certainly purple. I distinctly remember the “grand merging” of the fleets. It was a sight to behold! I was there as an interceptor pilot on the day when those three structures were destroyed, because I had been called in by LUMEN. The Lux fleet and the RC fleet were operating separately. I recall having to bounce because of incoming fire from confused allies due to this. What makes you think that they were operating as a single entity? ---
**Author:** ![Reginald\_Sakakibara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/reginald_sakakibara/32/270314_2.png) [@Reginald\_Sakakibara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Reginald_Sakakibara)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/urgent-communique-to-ishukone-corporation-re-i-red-disobedience-of-order/335782/48 "2021-11-08T21:35:24Z")
Because for the first few engagements in Wirashoda, they were, until they split for separate activities to simultaneously operate in Senda and Wirashoda. Nonetheless, operating separately after operating jointly does not discount the cooperation nor the coordination. ---
**Author:** ![Reginald\_Sakakibara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/reginald_sakakibara/32/270314_2.png) [@Reginald\_Sakakibara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Reginald_Sakakibara)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/urgent-communique-to-ishukone-corporation-re-i-red-disobedience-of-order/335782/49 "2021-11-08T21:37:33Z")
My thesis is nothing of the kind. But has RC wholeheartedly supported EM in the past? Yes. I was responding specifically to Strike Commander Kim’s comments: > [@Diana\_Kim](#): > > One who has supported EM has neither moral nor logical entitlement to blame anyone in collaboration with enemy. And Templis CALSF _has_ done so both as an entity and through TheLastSparton’s leadership. Thus, it fits Strike Commander Kim’s criteria. ---
**Author:** ![Saronu\_Yassavi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saronu_yassavi/32/386208_2.png) [@Saronu\_Yassavi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saronu_Yassavi)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/urgent-communique-to-ishukone-corporation-re-i-red-disobedience-of-order/335782/50 "2021-11-08T21:39:25Z")
> [@Mikal\_Vektor](#): > > promiscuity in loyalty though Loyalty to all and loyalty to none, they are almost indistinguishable. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/urgent-communique-to-ishukone-corporation-re-i-red-disobedience-of-order/335782/51 "2021-11-08T21:46:40Z")
Which was as accidental as finding ourselves on the side of Snuff which Mr. Vector has mentioned. As a matter of fact, we have neither blue standings with EM, nor with Snuff, which should be pretty much obvious, nor there were fleet gathered _specifically_ in support of either two of them. How much of EM/Snuff/whatever infrastructure we have to demolish to show you that we are not with them? On the other hand, the future will reveal itself as it should be. I will just repeat my last post to you in case you’ve missed: > [@](#): > > And I am almost certain you’re here just to make a nuisance of yourself. > Do you have any valid statement to make in regard of the topic of the discussion? ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/urgent-communique-to-ishukone-corporation-re-i-red-disobedience-of-order/335782/52 "2021-11-08T22:22:22Z")
> [@Ravi\_Srivasian](#): > > Our facilities are **freeports.** If that includes anyone associated with trigs you’re as guilty as they are. And will see no sympathy from me. Though from what I have seen the connection between your Corp and the trigs is far deeper than that. This entire thing is nothing more than a poor attempt at trying to attack I-Reds credibly. And it’s going about as well as your attempts to defend your criminal enterprise. ---
**Author:** ![Saronu\_Yassavi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saronu_yassavi/32/386208_2.png) [@Saronu\_Yassavi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saronu_Yassavi)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/urgent-communique-to-ishukone-corporation-re-i-red-disobedience-of-order/335782/53 "2021-11-08T22:39:56Z")
> [@John\_Revenent](#): > > That’s not how it works. You still supported a entity that conducted themselves against Thank you, for that impeccable irony. Have you contemplated those who ought to be _your_ foes, based on that standard and the company you keep? ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/urgent-communique-to-ishukone-corporation-re-i-red-disobedience-of-order/335782/54 "2021-11-08T23:25:36Z")
> [@Remilia\_Malitia](#): > > Are we to expect an assault on Perimeter’s TTT next? I mean, I wouldn’t be _surprised_… but if it comes, it’ll probably come from AoM, at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Mikal\_Vektor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mikal_vektor/32/267041_2.png) [@Mikal\_Vektor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mikal_Vektor)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 11:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/urgent-communique-to-ishukone-corporation-re-i-red-disobedience-of-order/335782/55 "2021-11-08T23:42:44Z")
Witnessing the triglavian collective scurry into the depths of abyss with but a few worlds in tow, I-RED and LUMEN sharpen the fangs of a Minmatar serpent that has claimed hundreds: A miscalculation of historic proportions… ---
**Author:** ![Gaven\_Lok\_ri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaven_lok_ri/32/293159_2.png) [@Gaven\_Lok\_ri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaven_Lok_ri)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/urgent-communique-to-ishukone-corporation-re-i-red-disobedience-of-order/335782/56 "2021-11-08T23:47:04Z")
As always, it the Excubitoris Chapter’s honour to support our Caldari allies in I-RED. ---
**Author:** ![She\_Who\_Endures](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/she_who_endures/32/248243_2.png) [@She\_Who\_Endures](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/She_Who_Endures)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2021, 12:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/urgent-communique-to-ishukone-corporation-re-i-red-disobedience-of-order/335782/57 "2021-11-09T00:15:07Z")
As a proud kybernaut of the Stribog Clade, I say, serves Mr. [Srivasian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ravi_Srivasian) right for being destroyed! His service fees are exorbitant, his station bar is atrocious, and his security services even threw me in the brig last week for an “overly loud” performance of Veles dialectial-poetic crash rock in the main concourse. He’s even a music hater! _Down with the Squirrel!_ _Down with the Squirrel!_ ---
**Author:** ![Gaven\_Lok\_ri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaven_lok_ri/32/293159_2.png) [@Gaven\_Lok\_ri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaven_Lok_ri)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2021, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/urgent-communique-to-ishukone-corporation-re-i-red-disobedience-of-order/335782/58 "2021-11-09T01:00:15Z")
> [@Remilia\_Malitia](#): > > Do you make a habit out of subordinating your forces under foreign terrorists that you have “poor standings” towards? I have never seen I-RED subordinate themselves to _anyone_ except Ishukone in the more than a decade I have known them. ---
**Author:** ![Diana\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/diana_kim/32/382972_2.png) [@Diana\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Diana_Kim)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2021, 3:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/urgent-communique-to-ishukone-corporation-re-i-red-disobedience-of-order/335782/59 "2021-11-09T03:18:58Z")
> [@Saronu\_Yassavi](#): > > Thank you, for that impeccable irony. > > Have you contemplated those who ought to be _your_ foes, based on that standard and the company you keep? I wonder, what they do in the Empire to those who collaborate with minmatar terrorists like EM? ---
**Author:** ![Arsia\_Elkin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arsia_elkin/32/388703_2.png) [@Arsia\_Elkin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arsia_Elkin)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2021, 3:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/urgent-communique-to-ishukone-corporation-re-i-red-disobedience-of-order/335782/60 "2021-11-09T03:41:07Z")
Thank them if it’s the right circumstances. Like after Arshat, for example. Ardishapur thanked _all_ of the capsuleers who fought off the Triglavians and saved it. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/urgent-communique-to-ishukone-corporation-re-i-red-disobedience-of-order/335782.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/urgent-communique-to-ishukone-corporation-re-i-red-disobedience-of-order/335782.md?page=4)