# US Congressional & EU Hearings on chance drop from video games

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/us-congressional-eu-hearings-on-chance-drop-from-video-games/57898>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [February 17, 2018, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/us-congressional-eu-hearings-on-chance-drop-from-video-games/57898 "2018-02-17T20:07:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![Alexi\_Stokov](https://imageserver.eveonline.com/Character/1_512.jpg) [@Alexi\_Stokov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexi_Stokov)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2018, 12:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/us-congressional-eu-hearings-on-chance-drop-from-video-games/57898/21 "2018-02-20T00:13:15Z")

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> [@Eternus8lux8lucis](#):
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> This is an extension of the kids gambling in video games issue nothing more. No RNG details would be listed just if there were a casino like transaction that would have to be curtailed, removed or listed fully.
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> This is why CCP got rid of the OOG casinos like IWI recently. But in game Eve has nothing similar. The closest thing would be the Christmas present boxes but we get those given to us so it wouldnt even come close to applying.

We used to get Christmas boxes

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**Author:** ![Eternus8lux8lucis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eternus8lux8lucis/32/385152_2.png) [@Eternus8lux8lucis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eternus8lux8lucis)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2018, 12:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/us-congressional-eu-hearings-on-chance-drop-from-video-games/57898/22 "2018-02-20T00:27:40Z")

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> [@Alexi\_Stokov](#):
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> We used to get Christmas boxes

Did anyone ever pay real money for them? No.🙄

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**Author:** ![Alexi\_Stokov](https://imageserver.eveonline.com/Character/1_512.jpg) [@Alexi\_Stokov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexi_Stokov)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2018, 3:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/us-congressional-eu-hearings-on-chance-drop-from-video-games/57898/23 "2018-02-20T03:33:15Z")

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> [@Eternus8lux8lucis](#):
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> > [@Alexi\_Stokov](#):
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> > We used to get Christmas boxes
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> Did anyone ever pay real money for them? No.🙄

If you actually read the whole quote I quoted, it clearly stated we used to be given them. I was correcting it as CCP stopped it for 2017.

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**Author:** ![Eternus8lux8lucis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eternus8lux8lucis/32/385152_2.png) [@Eternus8lux8lucis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eternus8lux8lucis)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2018, 3:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/us-congressional-eu-hearings-on-chance-drop-from-video-games/57898/24 "2018-02-20T03:41:02Z")

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> [@Alexi\_Stokov](#):
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> If you actually read the whole quote I quoted, it clearly stated we used to be given them. I was correcting it as CCP stopped it for 2017.

Yes we were given presents, you know FREE stuff every Christmas. This entire article, if you read it, applies to gambling within video games for real money and particularly underaged gambling…🙄

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**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 12:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/us-congressional-eu-hearings-on-chance-drop-from-video-games/57898/25 "2018-02-21T00:36:33Z")

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Laws???

The one senator punted to ESRP and even if she wanted to actually do anything she is in the minority party in a very hostile Congress and the majority party is dead set against regulating business.

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**Author:** ![Alexi\_Stokov](https://imageserver.eveonline.com/Character/1_512.jpg) [@Alexi\_Stokov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexi_Stokov)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 4:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/us-congressional-eu-hearings-on-chance-drop-from-video-games/57898/26 "2018-02-21T04:11:20Z")

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> [@Eternus8lux8lucis](#):
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> > [@Alexi\_Stokov](#):
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> > If you actually read the whole quote I quoted, it clearly stated we used to be given them. I was correcting it as CCP stopped it for 2017.
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> Yes we were given presents, you know FREE stuff every Christmas. This entire article, if you read it, applies to gambling within video games for real money and particularly underaged gambling…🙄

Yes it was FREE. Why you can’t comprehend the fact that I was simply correcting someone’s statement is beyond me 🙄🤔 🙄

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**Author:** ![Eternus8lux8lucis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eternus8lux8lucis/32/385152_2.png) [@Eternus8lux8lucis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eternus8lux8lucis)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 4:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/us-congressional-eu-hearings-on-chance-drop-from-video-games/57898/27 "2018-02-21T04:30:41Z")

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> [@Alexi\_Stokov](#):
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> Yes it was FREE. Why you can’t comprehend the fact that I was simply correcting someone’s statement is beyond me 🙄🤔 🙄

So then why are you replying to me and not them? Then why are you correcting me with false information?

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**Author:** ![Agondray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/agondray/32/414989_2.png) [@Agondray](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Agondray)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/us-congressional-eu-hearings-on-chance-drop-from-video-games/57898/28 "2018-02-21T10:47:57Z")

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> [@Brewlar\_Kuvakei](#):
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> p of the way, they did not act on their own morals only when it was clear that their behaviour was garne

thats because they fired the community devs while firing VR, they still have some VR working for them fromw hat i heard

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**Author:** ![Garresh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/garresh/32/411555_2.png) [@Garresh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Garresh)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 11:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/us-congressional-eu-hearings-on-chance-drop-from-video-games/57898/29 "2018-02-21T11:28:46Z")

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In the small chance this both passes and covers a wide enough net to affect CCP, it will be easily rectified. There’s a plex vault to prevent drops, and everyone knows the drop rate in items is 50% in the event of ship destruction. They could just make a one page blurb on how they’re compliant and bam, problem solved. Plex could be close to getting hit, but its really a different animal entirely. Plex is less so an exploitive practice, and moreso a way to combat RMT(Yes I know it hasn’t worked) and to allow poor(irl) but effective players/groups to function well above their numbers.

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**Author:** ![Alexi\_Stokov](https://imageserver.eveonline.com/Character/1_512.jpg) [@Alexi\_Stokov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexi_Stokov)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/us-congressional-eu-hearings-on-chance-drop-from-video-games/57898/30 "2018-02-21T21:06:26Z")

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> [@Eternus8lux8lucis](#):
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> > [@Alexi\_Stokov](#):
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> > Yes it was FREE. Why you can’t comprehend the fact that I was simply correcting someone’s statement is beyond me 🙄🤔 🙄
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> So then why are you replying to me and not them? Then why are you correcting me with false information?

Because YOU are the one that made post 7 or 8 (not sure it is) which I was commenting to.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/us-congressional-eu-hearings-on-chance-drop-from-video-games/57898/31 "2018-05-22T21:06:36Z")

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