# Use LPs to raise negative standing **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [December 5, 2023, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/use-lps-to-raise-negative-standing/431107 "2023-12-05T23:14:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/use-lps-to-raise-negative-standing/431107/21 "2023-12-08T09:11:43Z")
Skills is one thing. Passively letting standings go up without bribery or doing something good? No. You blew up some of amarrs false prophets and now you have bad standings and they hate you. They arent just gonna over time forgive you without you doing something for them. ---
**Author:** ![Rtsu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rtsu/32/382977_2.png) [@Rtsu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rtsu)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/use-lps-to-raise-negative-standing/431107/22 "2023-12-08T09:12:59Z")
Having a choice between training the skill points passively or raising standings passively is not a bad idea. If it was you would just ignore me and not quote me out of context and so on 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/use-lps-to-raise-negative-standing/431107/23 "2023-12-08T09:13:40Z")
> [@Rtsu](#): > > raising standings passively its not a bad idea your right … its a terrible idea ! ---
**Author:** ![Rtsu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rtsu/32/382977_2.png) [@Rtsu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rtsu)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/use-lps-to-raise-negative-standing/431107/24 "2023-12-08T09:33:13Z")
No its not ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/use-lps-to-raise-negative-standing/431107/25 "2023-12-08T09:33:58Z")
then thell us why its a very good idea which improves the game ! ---
**Author:** ![Rtsu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rtsu/32/382977_2.png) [@Rtsu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rtsu)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/use-lps-to-raise-negative-standing/431107/26 "2023-12-08T09:36:35Z")
It takes away some of the frustration of raising standings by giving people a choice of training a skill passively or raising a standing passively ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/use-lps-to-raise-negative-standing/431107/27 "2023-12-08T09:38:22Z")
> [@Rtsu](#): > > It takes away some of the frustration thats not an improvement xD thats only your version of “CCP need to compensate my lazyness” and now tell us any good reason why any faction need to rais their standings while youre doing nothing fotr them ? ---
**Author:** ![Rtsu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rtsu/32/382977_2.png) [@Rtsu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rtsu)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/use-lps-to-raise-negative-standing/431107/28 "2023-12-08T09:39:15Z")
You could come up with how it works from a lore perspective im sure ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/use-lps-to-raise-negative-standing/431107/29 "2023-12-08T09:40:10Z")
i tell you why its a terrible idea ! you ignore it becauye youre lazy and it would improve YOURE game but not the game at all ! ---
**Author:** ![Rtsu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rtsu/32/382977_2.png) [@Rtsu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rtsu)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/use-lps-to-raise-negative-standing/431107/30 "2023-12-08T09:41:15Z")
You never said why its terrible? ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/use-lps-to-raise-negative-standing/431107/31 "2023-12-08T09:42:48Z")
at first you need to say why its this big improvement xD youre the one whi want to change things without any good reason … ---
**Author:** ![Rtsu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rtsu/32/382977_2.png) [@Rtsu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rtsu)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/use-lps-to-raise-negative-standing/431107/32 "2023-12-08T09:44:06Z")
What do you think would be a good reason to change or add something? ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/use-lps-to-raise-negative-standing/431107/33 "2023-12-08T09:45:40Z")
i dont want to change it ! its good as its is because it works as intented ! ---
**Author:** ![Rtsu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rtsu/32/382977_2.png) [@Rtsu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rtsu)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 10:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/use-lps-to-raise-negative-standing/431107/34 "2023-12-08T10:11:26Z")
Not sure what the intention is ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/use-lps-to-raise-negative-standing/431107/35 "2023-12-08T10:14:46Z")
think about whats the intention is behind a standing system … ! maybe you will notice that youre idea is stupid if you think about it ---
**Author:** ![Rtsu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rtsu/32/382977_2.png) [@Rtsu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rtsu)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/use-lps-to-raise-negative-standing/431107/36 "2023-12-08T13:25:25Z")
The standing system will still be there even if you can switch from training skills to raising standings. In fact the system will be better then 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/use-lps-to-raise-negative-standing/431107/37 "2023-12-08T13:28:31Z")
> [@Rtsu](#): > > In fact the system will be better then you still dont tell WHY its be better after your change … only say your opinion doesnt make it a fact ! and youre stil wrong xD ---
**Author:** ![Rtsu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rtsu/32/382977_2.png) [@Rtsu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rtsu)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/use-lps-to-raise-negative-standing/431107/38 "2023-12-08T13:30:00Z")
> [@Rtsu](#): > > It takes away some of the frustration of raising standings by giving people a choice of training a skill passively or raising a standing passively I have not said? What is this then? Now explain why that’s terrible or don’t ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/use-lps-to-raise-negative-standing/431107/39 "2023-12-08T13:32:41Z")
> [@Rtsu](#): > > I have not said? What is this then? thats lazyness and not an improvement xD so no, you dont have said anything ! ---
**Author:** ![Rtsu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rtsu/32/382977_2.png) [@Rtsu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rtsu)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/use-lps-to-raise-negative-standing/431107/40 "2023-12-08T13:36:51Z")
If you choose to raise a standing instead of training a skill that is not lazy its a compromise. Some will prefer to keep training skills while they raise standings the old way. Some will prefer pausing their skill training and raise the standings faster instead. And some will think its a stupid idea without giving a good reason why. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/use-lps-to-raise-negative-standing/431107.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/use-lps-to-raise-negative-standing/431107.md?page=3)