# Use of an orca for a single player without alts **URL:** \ **Category:** Mining & Extraction\ **Created:** [August 11, 2020, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/use-of-an-orca-for-a-single-player-without-alts/259869 "2020-08-11T13:39:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 76
**Author:** ![Mark\_Remillard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_remillard/32/299147_2.png) [@Mark\_Remillard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Remillard)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2020, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/use-of-an-orca-for-a-single-player-without-alts/259869/76 "2020-08-24T19:34:44Z")
> [@Brun\_Warbear](#): > > > [@Alistair\_Atreides](#): > > > > It actually costs YOU isk to do anything with ore lol. We can have that discussion outside of here but that’s a reality. > > This is wrong. Like the opposite of true sort of wrong. But again ore was only an example. There are many things you can carry using little cargo space that is worth billions in value so… No, he actually has a valid point. It could have been stated better though (key phrase being “do anything with”). Compressed Ore currently loses value when converting it into minerals. The ore is worth more than the minerals it gets turned into. justification provided here: > [@Final days for the ABC Moon pulls](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/final-days-for-the-abc-moon-pulls/243404/63): > > For the sake of “showing my work” Ore Value Actual Refined Units Compressed Price Compressed Volume Refined Value Gross Profit Margin Tritanium Pyerite Mexallon Isogen Nocxium Zydrine Megacyte Morphite Mercoxit $2,501,000.00 0.1 $3,302,400.00 32% - - - - - - - 258.00 Arkonor $497,400.00 8.8 $476,173.40 -4% 18,920.00 - 2,150.00 - - - 275.20 - Bistot $648,000.00 4.4 $525,021.40 -19% - 10,320.00 - - - 387.00 86.00 - Crokite $618,900.00 7.81 $471,537.14 -24% 1… In responce to the OP though, I will say that the orca is well suited for its intended purpose (the transport of ore and moderate fitted ship hulls) It will function as an entry level freighter but once your cargohold value starts to exceed 500 million you need to start examining other more efficient options. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/use-of-an-orca-for-a-single-player-without-alts/259869)._