# Utari's Puppies (Formerly Off-Topic Thread)

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128>\
**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Created:** [June 21, 2017, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128 "2017-06-21T18:18:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Anabella\_Rella](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anabella_rella/32/504852_2.png) [@Anabella\_Rella](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anabella_Rella)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 12:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/2445 "2019-01-12T00:39:05Z")

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I’d expected so much better of a supposed high commander of the slavery death cult than childish name calling. Did I hit a nerve?

So explain to me how I’m being stupid. Your barbaric god demands that we all give up our uniqueness and become Amarrian lapdogs. That’s what I said. How am I wrong?

Or should I just name-call and insult you, slaver?

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**Author:** ![Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aldrith_shutaq/32/378618_2.png) [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aldrith_Shutaq)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/2446 "2019-01-12T00:43:25Z")

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You are stupid because you have no idea who Vesper is, and yet you make assumptions about her such as these? She merely recognizes us as human and worthy of respect and defense when we are in need, and the only thing you can think to do is berate, denigrate and project absurdities unto.

You are a fool, and you are made cruel by your bitterness and insecurities, as every one of your kind on this blasted medium.

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**Author:** ![Anabella\_Rella](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anabella_rella/32/504852_2.png) [@Anabella\_Rella](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anabella_Rella)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 12:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/2447 "2019-01-12T00:49:09Z")

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And you are a pompous, self-aggrandizing, hypocritical fool made arrogant and stupid by your bigotry and racism.

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**Author:** ![Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/melisma_ramijozana/32/168474_2.png) [@Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Melisma_Ramijozana)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/2448 "2019-01-12T01:07:14Z")

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> [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](#):
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> She merely recognizes us as human and worthy of respect and defense when we are in need, and the only thing you can think to do is berate, denigrate and project absurdities unto.
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> You are a fool, and you are made cruel by your bitterness and insecurities, as every one of your kind on this blasted medium.

o/

I’m lots of things, but “cruel” and “bitter” aren’t really on that list. I’ll give you “insecure,” though.

And the problem with your defense is that the person you’re defending is selective in whom she views as human and worthy of respect; and, not coincidentally, those who she doesn’t include in that end up disliking and berating her.

(Edited to include more of the quote.)

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**Author:** ![Deitra\_Vess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deitra_vess/32/249726_2.png) [@Deitra\_Vess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deitra_Vess)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 1:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/2449 "2019-01-12T01:21:27Z")

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I think he was referring to Anabella…

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**Author:** ![Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/melisma_ramijozana/32/168474_2.png) [@Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Melisma_Ramijozana)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 1:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/2450 "2019-01-12T01:26:19Z")

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He did say “every one of your kind,” which generally reads as “all Matari.”

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**Author:** ![Deitra\_Vess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deitra_vess/32/249726_2.png) [@Deitra\_Vess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deitra_Vess)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 1:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/2451 "2019-01-12T01:28:49Z")

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Ahh, my bad on that.

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**Author:** ![Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/melisma_ramijozana/32/168474_2.png) [@Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Melisma_Ramijozana)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 1:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/2452 "2019-01-12T01:29:31Z")

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Ehh, can’t fault you for giving someone the benefit of the doubt.

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**Author:** ![Deitra\_Vess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deitra_vess/32/249726_2.png) [@Deitra\_Vess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deitra_Vess)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 1:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/2453 "2019-01-12T01:35:02Z")

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Frustrated maybe? Its just odd to watch them overly hostile like it’s their god’s yearly review of it’s subjects. Does it not seem like they’re overly posturing?

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**Author:** ![Garion\_Avarr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/garion_avarr/32/415302_2.png) [@Garion\_Avarr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Garion_Avarr)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 1:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/2454 "2019-01-12T01:43:15Z")

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> [@Deitra\_Vess](#):
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> Frustrated maybe? Its just odd to watch them overly hostile like it’s their god’s yearly review of it’s subjects. Does it not seem like they’re overly posturing?

Given that the Empire asked us to assist in Thebeka, a job that they are quite capable of performing on their own, one might in fact conclude that the Empress or other officials are indeed conducting some sort of review of us.

Also, the recent conflicts have frayed a _lot_ of nerves, which is likely the cause of some posturing and tempters flaring.

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**Author:** ![Graelyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/graelyn/32/247527_2.png) [@Graelyn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Graelyn)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 1:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/2455 "2019-01-12T01:43:25Z")

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It’s been a grumpy period for the Amarr bloc.

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**Author:** ![Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/melisma_ramijozana/32/168474_2.png) [@Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Melisma_Ramijozana)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 1:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/2456 "2019-01-12T01:45:30Z")

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I’d invite you all over for drinks, but the shootiness hampers this.

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**Author:** ![Garion\_Avarr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/garion_avarr/32/415302_2.png) [@Garion\_Avarr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Garion_Avarr)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 1:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/2457 "2019-01-12T01:47:28Z")

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I’m making a list of people I want to invite for drinks once the shooting is over. You’re on it.

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**Author:** ![Deitra\_Vess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deitra_vess/32/249726_2.png) [@Deitra\_Vess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deitra_Vess)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 1:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/2458 "2019-01-12T01:48:04Z")

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I have to agree with both of ya, both make sense.

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**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 1:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/2459 "2019-01-12T01:58:33Z")

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I’m training my comm device to post some more extensive thoughts later on the IGS automatically.

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**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/2460 "2019-01-12T02:01:41Z")

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Fully automated luxury space posting on the IGS.

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**Author:** ![Jason\_Galente](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jason_galente/32/383984_2.png) [@Jason\_Galente](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jason_Galente)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 2:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/2461 "2019-01-12T02:23:57Z")

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I’m down for drinks.

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**Author:** ![Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/charles_cambridge_schmidt/32/372217_2.png) [@Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Charles_Cambridge_Schmidt)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 2:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/2462 "2019-01-12T02:45:36Z")

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> [@Melisma\_Ramijozana](#):
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> I’d invite you all over for drinks, but the shootiness hampers this.

You don’t know me and I’m a literal nobody in regards to the conflict but I’ll happily take you up on this offer.

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**Author:** ![Makoto\_Priano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makoto_priano/32/383919_2.png) [@Makoto\_Priano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makoto_Priano)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 2:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/2463 "2019-01-12T02:57:10Z")

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Alright, so. I’m not normally one to involve myself in the Amarr-Minmatar conflict for obvious reasons. I have to ask, however: what makes the Amarr religion a death cult?

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**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 3:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/2464 "2019-01-12T03:04:40Z")

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> [@Makoto\_Priano](#):
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> what makes the Amarr religion a death cult?

It’s not very easily applied to the Rite other than in the most generic terms. You can technically apply it to any religion espousing a rewarding afterlife and working towards this post-death bliss, but it’s in the Rite’s case somewhat disingenuous. I think it’s just being bundled in with some other faiths that are a bit more directly into worship of ascended mortals and so on.

Technically it’s true, but I wouldn’t use the term.

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