# Utari's Puppies (Formerly Off-Topic Thread) **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [June 21, 2017, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128 "2017-06-21T18:18:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 169
**Author:** ![Bellanea\_Rajanir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bellanea_rajanir/32/130836_2.png) [@Bellanea\_Rajanir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bellanea_Rajanir)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3410 "2019-05-17T12:57:03Z")
Nevermind, I found out. They are called Aranea Bigassus. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3411 "2019-05-17T13:09:47Z")
Am I? Is it madness to look at the actual facts and not cling to the comforting rationalization? Maybe… ---
**Author:** ![Teinyhr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teinyhr/32/374406_2.png) [@Teinyhr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teinyhr)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3412 "2019-05-17T20:18:29Z")
Well, from what I understand, you are indeed creating yourself a comforting rationalization and call it “actual facts.” Maybe there are topics that don’t have facts as answers. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3413 "2019-05-17T20:48:02Z")
And which bits don’t you think are facts? ---
**Author:** ![Teinyhr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teinyhr/32/374406_2.png) [@Teinyhr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teinyhr)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 7:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3414 "2019-05-18T07:02:25Z")
I know better than to enter prolonged arguments with you. But you can’t call personal experiences universal facts. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3415 "2019-05-18T07:48:21Z")
And I’m not. I’m talking about how the brain works, how data transfer works, and whether a copy is the original. But you know, I’ve pretty much come to expect this kind of thing. Ask someone to actually specify the falsehood they’re vaguely asserting I’ve made, and suddenly it’s all ‘I’m not getting into this with you’. If you’re going to make accusations, be prepared to back them up. ---
**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3416 "2019-05-18T09:06:24Z")
The trick to not getting too annoyed by students handing in stuff right on the deadline, is to set the deadline a week in advance of when you actually want them to hand things in. ---
**Author:** ![Teinyhr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teinyhr/32/374406_2.png) [@Teinyhr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teinyhr)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3417 "2019-05-18T09:25:30Z")
The falsehood you made was to claim that when someone says “I’m still the same me”, you said that no they’re not. Based entirely on your facts. I know I am the same me. I have the same soul. I am the same person that I always was, even if the vessel changes. Clearly, you do not think like this. And you’re free not to. But our brand of immortality is not something I feel can be entirely measured up only through scientific method. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3418 "2019-05-18T17:38:25Z")
Our brand of ‘immortality’ is entirely scientific. It’s achieved through scientific process. You want to claim there’s something else at work, let’s see even a single scrap of evidence that ‘something else’ _exists_. ---
**Author:** ![Teinyhr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teinyhr/32/374406_2.png) [@Teinyhr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teinyhr)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3419 "2019-05-18T17:47:00Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > Our brand of ‘immortality’ is entirely scientific. It’s achieved through scientific process. Yes. > [@Arrendis](#): > > You want to claim there’s something else at work, let’s see even a single scrap of evidence that ‘something else’ _exists_ . How can you prove something immaterial exists? ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2019, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3420 "2019-05-18T18:14:20Z")
Not my problem, I’m not the one claiming it does. ---
**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 5:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3421 "2019-05-20T05:08:23Z")
> [@Hey RJD, did you purge everyone competent back in YC110?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-rjd-did-you-purge-everyone-competent-back-in-yc110/160667/22): > > > [@Hey RJD, did you purge everyone competent back in YC110?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-rjd-did-you-purge-everyone-competent-back-in-yc110/160667/20): > > > > did that thing, > > So much for ever asking a good-faith question on these fora. What do you mean by this ? ---
**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3422 "2019-05-20T07:13:07Z")
> [@Hey RJD, did you purge everyone competent back in YC110?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-rjd-did-you-purge-everyone-competent-back-in-yc110/160667/23): > > That’s exactly why I wrote about it on the IGS! > No, wait. It isn’t. If you don’t want me to comment on things on the IGS, why put them on the IGS ? ---
**Author:** ![Kalaratiri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalaratiri/32/477189_2.png) [@Kalaratiri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalaratiri)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3423 "2019-05-20T08:28:36Z")
Not every post is intended for every commenter. ---
**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3424 "2019-05-20T08:56:56Z")
And not every comment on the IGS automatically needs to be acknowledged. ---
**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3425 "2019-05-20T09:02:03Z")
Also, Ekaterina Defenestris endorsed my post which will probably bump her a few places up Chakaids hit list. ---
**Author:** ![Lunarisse\_Aspenstar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lunarisse_aspenstar/32/478487_2.png) [@Lunarisse\_Aspenstar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lunarisse_Aspenstar)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3426 "2019-05-20T11:37:52Z")
> [@Kalaratiri](#): > > Not every post is intended for every commenter. I feel this way.. a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3427 "2019-05-20T12:02:47Z")
> [@Valerie\_Valate](#): > > If you don’t want me to comment on things on the IGS, why put them on the IGS ? I think you are confusing IGS with a “ask Valerie Valete” column in your local vidfeed. ---
**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3428 "2019-05-20T14:20:12Z")
No, that’s right [Here](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ask-doctor-v/143817) ---
**Author:** ![Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/melisma_ramijozana/32/168474_2.png) [@Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Melisma_Ramijozana)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3429 "2019-05-20T16:12:08Z")
I mean that you entered a Minmatar-centric thread posted by a respected Minmatar voice asking a valid Minmatar question, and then proceeded to refer to one of the central events of Minmatar history and rebellion as “that thing.” Now, feelings about the Elders’ actions are extremely mixed, but I think we can all agree that they aren’t worth speaking dismissively of as a “thing.” [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128.md?page=168) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128.md?page=170)