# Utari's Puppies (Formerly Off-Topic Thread) **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [June 21, 2017, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128 "2017-06-21T18:18:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 176
**Author:** ![Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/melisma_ramijozana/32/168474_2.png) [@Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Melisma_Ramijozana)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3554 "2019-06-25T13:11:40Z")
omfg go away ---
**Author:** ![Samira\_Kernher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/samira_kernher/32/244840_2.png) [@Samira\_Kernher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Samira_Kernher)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3555 "2019-06-25T13:13:39Z")
Stop calling me apostate. ---
**Author:** ![Alar\_Chakaid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alar_chakaid/32/179823_2.png) [@Alar\_Chakaid](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alar_Chakaid)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3556 "2019-06-25T13:16:36Z")
> [@Samira\_Kernher](#): > > Stop calling me apostate. Nothing burns the ears of a deceiver more than the plain, simple and purest truth. I have the honor to be, Alar Aga-Count Chakaid of Kahah III, Sa-Baron of Ves-Sefris, Zirsem V, Paladin Deacon, Orders Militant of the Theology Council, Plenipotentiary Representative of His Majesty Farokh Khanid III ---
**Author:** ![Aradina\_Varren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aradina_varren/32/398702_2.png) [@Aradina\_Varren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aradina_Varren)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3557 "2019-06-25T13:18:28Z")
[The FAQ is pretty clear in that you shouldn’t be signing your posts.](https://forums.eveonline.com/faq#keep-tidy) ---
**Author:** ![Teinyhr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teinyhr/32/374406_2.png) [@Teinyhr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teinyhr)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3558 "2019-06-25T13:24:54Z")
@Aux_Aliette This guy is breaking the rules. Break his legs. ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3559 "2019-06-25T13:28:10Z")
What, signing is against the rules? ■■■■ that. Br, Else ---
**Author:** ![Aradina\_Varren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aradina_varren/32/398702_2.png) [@Aradina\_Varren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aradina_Varren)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3560 "2019-06-25T13:29:20Z")
The FAQ also clearly states to not post no-content replies. ---
**Author:** ![Evi\_Polevhia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/evi_polevhia/32/501296_2.png) [@Evi\_Polevhia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Evi_Polevhia)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3561 "2019-06-25T13:30:24Z")
Might as well shut down the forum. ---
**Author:** ![Mizhir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhir/32/379234_2.png) [@Mizhir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhir)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3562 "2019-06-25T13:31:00Z")
> [@Alar\_Chakaid](#): > > Nothing burns the ears of a deceiver more than the plain, simple and purest truth. Is that why you don’t like being called a Blood Raider? ---
**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3563 "2019-06-25T14:43:25Z")
I find it a little odd that for all his bile against the supposed Blood raider consorters like Samira and Aldrith, that Alar Chakaid has never said anything to challenge me, the greatest Sani Sabik capsuleer philosopher of the modern era. ---
**Author:** ![Arsia\_Elkin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arsia_elkin/32/388703_2.png) [@Arsia\_Elkin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arsia_Elkin)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3564 "2019-06-25T14:54:05Z")
Chakaid seems particularly unhinged today. I think he’s worried about Zashev going to Lord Sarum. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3565 "2019-06-25T16:06:02Z")
I think we should start reporting him. ---
**Author:** ![Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/charles_cambridge_schmidt/32/372217_2.png) [@Charles\_Cambridge\_Schmidt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Charles_Cambridge_Schmidt)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3566 "2019-06-25T16:32:48Z")
Imagine being in one of the most powerful places in New Eden and you spend your day on GalNet in your KHANID KINGDOM 4 EVER undies typing up a storm on the IGS. Honestly, that sounds like the life. ---
**Author:** ![Utari\_Onzo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/utari_onzo/32/378493_2.png) [@Utari\_Onzo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Utari_Onzo)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3567 "2019-06-25T16:33:23Z")
Never change, Charles ---
**Author:** ![Havohej](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/havohej/32/325132_2.png) [@Havohej](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Havohej)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3568 "2019-06-25T16:57:47Z")
> [@Samira\_Kernher](#): > > Stop calling me apostate. But you are. > [@Samira\_Kernher](#): > > I expect better of people. By what right? You’re not nearly virtuous enough in your own right to be so judgemental of others. > [@Samira\_Kernher](#): > > People forgive _far_ too easily. This is an extremely unhealthy and, frankly, _toxic_ attitude. Just because _you_ don’t know how to let anything go doesn’t mean _everyone else_ should labor under the same weight of vindictive, spiteful and ultimately fruitless grudge-holding that you do, especially with regard to things that have _nothing at all_ to do with themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Arsia\_Elkin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arsia_elkin/32/388703_2.png) [@Arsia\_Elkin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arsia_Elkin)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3569 "2019-06-25T17:26:18Z")
> [@EM/BJK10 joint announcement](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/em-bjk10-joint-announcement/169438/49): > > corrupted Amarr capsuleers are likely involved and **perhaps their high, even exalted, sponsors.** Bolded for emphasis. He’s setting up to blame Lord Sarum… He’s _really_ at his rope’s end… ---
**Author:** ![Samira\_Kernher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/samira_kernher/32/244840_2.png) [@Samira\_Kernher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Samira_Kernher)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3570 "2019-06-25T17:33:57Z")
> [@Havohej](#): > > But you are. If I was, you wouldn’t have had to keep whining at me to “come home” to the Republic. Don’t ■■■■■■■ make claims about my faith, butcher. > [@Havohej](#): > > By what right? You’re not nearly virtuous enough in your own right to be so judgemental of others. No, I’m not virtuous enough. But I do have standards, and I hold others to the same ones I hold for myself. The same standards I was held _to_. And I expect for others the same thing I expect for myself: that when I fail to meet those standards, which I do, that I will be punished, lest I keep failing. > [@Havohej](#): > > This is an extremely unhealthy and, frankly, _toxic_ attitude. What’s unhealthy and toxic is the complacency and short memory spans so many people have. Where monsters like you can go a few years without making a splash and then be welcomed back in to the community with open arms. Where corruption in our friendships, our homes and communities, our governments, and ourselves, get overlooked and swept under the rug because forgiveness is more convenient than accountability. And then we wonder why evil exists in the world! Or in your case relishes in it, Mr. “I know this is wrong but I’m going to keep doing it anyway.” Evil and sin are tumors that must be cut out, not left in the body to fester and grow. That is poisonous. That is toxic. See, the problem with slavery isn’t that it hurts people. It’s that it hurts the wrong people. It hurts innocent people. But monsters like you? A collar to your throat and a lash to your back, until the pain and degradation is enough that you beg for mercy after finally admitting that you are evil and have done evil. ---
**Author:** ![Havohej](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/havohej/32/325132_2.png) [@Havohej](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Havohej)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3571 "2019-06-25T17:40:36Z")
> [@Samira\_Kernher](#): > > If I was, you wouldn’t have had to keep whining at me to “come home” to the Republic. Apostasy requires only that you abandon a religious or political belief or principle. _You have._ > [@Samira\_Kernher](#): > > The same standards I was held _to_ . Later on, after you come down off whatever high you’re on and you’re in your right mind again, you’ll forgive the rest of us for rejecting the very premise of being held to the same “moral” standards that you were held to as a slave. Doubly so for expecting to be punished like slaves. > [@Samira\_Kernher](#): > > Mr. “I know this is wrong but I’m going to keep doing it anyway.” There’s a difference between _doing_ wrong and _being_ wrong. If my work eventually finds success, then we’ll see how it’s judged. If not… I tried. What did _you_ do? > [@Samira\_Kernher](#): > > admitting that you are evil and have done evil. I haven’t denied that I’ve ‘done’ evil - again, doing and being, there’s a difference. And I don’t believe I _am_ evil. In fact, I reject the very premise. ---
**Author:** ![Samira\_Kernher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/samira_kernher/32/244840_2.png) [@Samira\_Kernher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Samira_Kernher)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3572 "2019-06-25T17:45:08Z")
> [@Havohej](#): > > There’s a difference between _doing_ wrong and _being_ wrong. If my work eventually finds success, then we’ll see how it’s judged. If not… I tried. What did _you_ do? I saved a million slaves _without_ turning around and executing 30% of them. For a start. ---
**Author:** ![Havohej](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/havohej/32/325132_2.png) [@Havohej](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Havohej)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128/3573 "2019-06-25T17:45:55Z")
> [@Samira\_Kernher](#): > > I saved a million slaves As far as I’m concerned, if their hearts, minds and souls remained bound in your slaver’s faith, you didn’t save _anyone._ [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128.md?page=175) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/utaris-puppies-formerly-off-topic-thread/5128.md?page=177)